World cup x/members ?

[Bustem]

Who makes the best 1 ??? is it the R.A.C.E 1 ??? and yes i know this has been covered recently blah blah blah

[Sideways]

Yes I would say the RACE one if you want quality and value for money, but if money is no object then Gartrac has to be the best

Steve

[Bustem]

I thought that was the kiddie,thanks just how much is a Gartrac 1 i could chassis mount my engine but i think thats going a bit far for a road car so i am gonna use a w c x/member

[Willid1]

Eeekkk ---- gartrac WXCM

David

[GJUK]

£300 - fucking hell!

[BigDave]

I just fotted a RACE one last weekend. Had to drill out the TCA bolt mounts cos they were too small but the rest is just fine!

[GJUK]

can anyone post up pics of the differences between a normal X member, and a grp 4 one please?

[BigDave]

This what a normal one looks like (well with a chop out of it!)...


This is the WCXM all bolted up and ready for engine...


The main differences on this set up is the fact its bolted right through the chasis and also the engine mounts are rigid with vibration taken up by the H/D rubbers you see in the above shot.

[GJUK]

cheers, anyone got any pics of them on theirr own ie out of a car?

i cant really see much difference - inexperianced eye.

[dangerousdave]

Look closely at the engine mounts by the steering rack, see it now??

[BigDave]

Its a good job I take lots of pictures eh?

Normal Mk2 RS with chopped center...


WCXMember, engine mounts, rack rubbers and Gp4 Knuckle...


New Chassis Bolts...


See the difference now mate??

[Mac]

So what the difference between a Grp 4 world cup cross member and a normal world cup cross member, and don't say it's got lowered rack mounts, cos you can get both with them??

[BigDave]

What I was told is just that its got extra bracing and strength over the normal one. Welds and gusseting will be different for the added rigidity also. The basic pricnciples are the same, just stronger and heavier duty. So I was told anyway. Your best best is to ring the Squire brothers for detailed advice...

[RSTANGOMK1]

hi dave just a quick question on those gartrac bolts for the
wcxm . do you have to have those sleeves wielded in or do
you just drill a hole in top of the rail the same size as the sleeve and then drop the sleeve in , also are the sleeves the
right lengh or do they need cutting down.
cheers lee

[GJUK]

ho yesh, thanks big dave

[robrs2]

The sleeves need a 16mm hole drilling in the top part if the chassis only and they can be loose fitted or welded in.
Welded is best as they will stay put when the bolts are out.

[BigDave]

Nice memory Rob!
Also if you are going to use them then drill the hole from the bottom if you dont want to weld them in. Imagine dropping one into the chassis!

As Rob says you need a 16mm hole to get them in and it would be better to weld them onto a plate first, just to stop them falling into the rail. They also come cut to the right length.

Have to be honest, I never fitted them in the end as I didnt want to drill the holes that big. I just drilled out to the dia of the bolt and used the square washer/plate at the top and a large penny washer at the bottom. So I wasted my money really, DOH!! But they can be fitted after if required, just drill out the top hole and drop them in.

CheeRS