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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    Ahem
    200bhp & 160 torx at 7000rpm

    Hell yeah
    That's excellent, well done Graham

    I bet you can't wait to be driving it now
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Those are very impresive figures for a tiny Fiesta!!! I believe you are going to have your hads full with this one.... And I mean it in a good, good, way.
    And if you ever feel like you may need more there a hundred more horses waiting to get out of an Duratec 2.0.
    What a beast. Excellent job Graham!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Not bad for an amateur eh.
    Troy worked his magic on the car.
    Corner weighted, then alignment which showed up a .problem with the 2nd driveshaft, which as I suspected is too long and binds which prevented us getting the castor and camber on the near side. So I need to order a shorter one.
    On the rollers we still had the oil leak from the filter housing and stripped it all off the car, rebuilt it with dowty seals after modding the filter housing, and that fixed the problem.

    Troy already balanced the bodies, and I'd fitted the larger injectors before the session, so the engine ticked over at 650rpm, and starts on the button.

    Several power runs highlighted a problem with an earth somewhere. My car kept causing the dyno to reset, so after some headscratching we earthed the car VIA jump leads to the dyno chassis and that cured the fault.

    Dyno runs showed a cooling issue but it turns out I'd plumbed the header tank in to the wrong hose so I need to sort that out.

    Red lined at 7k but if we move it to 7400 and run a straight cut box, I reckon we'll get 210 easily.
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Took lots of video on my camera.
    Two from my camera phone are on YouTube
    Www.YouTube.com/a269fej

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    And the car weighs 695kg without me up.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    And the car weighs 695kg without me up.
    3,475kg's per a horse power NOT BAD!!!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadsport View Post
    3,475kg's per a horse power NOT BAD!!!
    i'l say or to put it anotherway 287bhp per ton

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Blimey, thats going to be fun. Need to concentrate on the gearbox next.
    Going for Quaife internals, with the LSD.

    Whats everyone else's power to weight ratios?

    And yes, I'm going on a diet.

    The Fiesta was causing the rolling road computer to trip. Troy said he'd never seen it before. We had to earth the car to the dyno chassis, to cure the problem. Most peculiar, considering the Fiesta never missed a beat. I reckon it was static being generated by the wheels on the dyno, but its hard to tell where it came from. There was a voltage differential between the Fiesta and Ground, and grounding the chassis fixed it. Its a new install at Northampton Motorsport as they've just moved premises, so it could be an earthing loop somewhere in their mains setup.
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Well done Graham, good to see it all coming together

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber



    Doing the videos now.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber



    This was a 183bhp run, and Troy continued mapping for another 15 mins which finally realised 198.9bhp
    Last edited by team_zi; 28-08-2010 at 12:00.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Yep, that power curve confirms it wants more revs alright! Steve Broughton managed 205bhp on standard internals at 7,250rpm, the standard cams aren't up to much more than that. A pair of cams should see you up to about 215bhp.

    That power to weight is insane, nearly as much as Matt's Escort!!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber



    And I'm on standard gearbox, so a set of straight cut gears would see at least a couple more BHP.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    That's going to be a wicked motor in such a light shell

    Got any dyno graphs at all?
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by exboyracer View Post
    Got any dyno graphs at all?
    Like this one?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Few more hours on the rollers and it'll all be smoothed out and running 200+ bhp.
    We used my Zetec map as the basis, and it showed the inadequacies of the map


    Got to move the header tank hose, on to the thermostat housing inlet pipe, and I need to order a shorter driveshaft so we can get the castor and camber on the nearside front. So not quite ready to drive, but getting closer.

    Funds are a but ltd at the moment so i'll spread the costs over a few months.
    No hurry.

    The overriding thing is that my install worked. Just a few minor adjustments and she'll be chasing Matt's times for sure.
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post

    The overriding thing is that my install worked. Just a few minor adjustments and she'll be chasing Matt's times for sure.
    No chance mate........ it's wrong wheel drive

    Brillaint results Gray and well worth the wait, a real milestone reached, I know there's not much of summer left (if at all judging by this weekend) but it won't be long before you are shedding rubber and enjoying your car again. Nice one mate

    ps I might be looking to upgrade mine to a newer spec, you interested in 300hp?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by cossie matt View Post

    ps I might be looking to upgrade mine to a newer spec, you interested in 300hp?
    If Graham has your duratec you can fit my pinto Matt, I take it thats what you were hinting at?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by david_white View Post
    If Graham has your duratec you can fit my pinto Matt, I take it thats what you were hinting at?
    If you mean do I need an old pinto to hold my awning down is a strong wind then yes mate I could use it but it's a bit overkill as I could easily a small tank instead as it'd be lighter

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Oh.thats harsh
    By the way how much does the duratec weight?
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Pretty damn light, this is Matt holding his fully assembled engine!!....


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Is he competing in them strong man contests? I mean you can lift one but to carry it around in your lap is another thing.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    no mate he doesn't want to be embarrassed by some of your Finnish behemoths!!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    I reckon the Duratec is around 15-20Kg lighter than the Zetec, given my car is 20Kg lighter with the Duratec + larger capacity alloy radiator, and carbon bonnet fitted.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    I reckon the Duratec is around 15-20Kg lighter than the Zetec, given my car is 20Kg lighter with the Duratec + larger capacity alloy radiator, and carbon bonnet fitted.
    I read a from the Duratec's introduction that it would be 18kg's lighter than the Zetec E

    And the Zetec E was quoted 236lbs somewhere in the web.... But still not a fact I dont kno'w in what trim / with which equipments the engine weights were quoted.

    So 100KG's ? This behemoth would not like to carry it around on my arms
    But would not be so bad under the bonnet though. Still 20kg heavier than the baby Zetec.
    Which I would agree with, having lifted both engines up.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Trax on Sunday. Anyone else going? I'm on the Fast Ford magazine stand.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Trax was superb yesterday. Thousands of people drifted past the Fast Ford stand in the main paddock area (opposite Fast Car magazine), and mine, and Jamie Going's Space Shuttle specificaiton Escort Mk3 were on the stand, with a few other familiar cars.

    Jamie spent £18.5K on the Hewland 6speed Touring Car spec gearbox, which is more than my car is worth, so I hope he gets it finished off and running before it all just erodes away. I personally think the install needs a lot of work to bring it up to scratch, but thats the perfectionist in me.







    I drove mine for the first time since it was mapped, from the paddock to the trailer park, and I gave it some beans on the bridge over the track, and it broke traction so easily that I'll have to get the slipper installed and the box rebuilt or I'll never get the power down.

    I've ordered new hoses this morning from SFS, and I'm now on the lookout for a small alloy header tank to fit on the drivers side, and the VW header tank will be replaced by the Mocal oil breather bottle on the passenger side.

    Engine bay is looking far neater now I've trimmed and painted the gearbox cradle (as per KP's suggestion). With the header tank removed, it'll look even better, and I'm just left with ordering a new 30mm shorter driveshaft and air filter element, and she's good to go for some more mapping, suspension setup, and then track time. Cant wait!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    I have one of these header tanks if its any use to you. I bought it for the cossie but then managed to get a Bailey one for a good price so this is just sat in the garage.

    Its one of these; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Looks too tall....

    How much David?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    Looks too tall....

    How much David?
    Says 200mm tall but I can check for you tomorrow. How about £35 including postage?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    I've measured the gap, and thats going to be too tall I'm afraid. Thanks anyway.
    Found that Forge do a Renault 5GT tank which looks perfect.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    I've measured the gap, and thats going to be too tall I'm afraid. Thanks anyway.
    Found that Forge do a Renault 5GT tank which looks perfect.
    No probs, if you dont wanna pay forge prices then a cheap alternative is obp do one the same as mine but horzontal, ie half as tall..



    Or they do a square one 150mm tall with either style cap ..

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Found some old videos of me competing in 2003, with the Zetec and very short final drive (later changed to a much more reasonable one)





    More on www.youtube.com/a269fej

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Ordered one of these

    from www.evaluation-designs.co.uk

    Ordered a pair of new Tri-lobe joints from M-Sport, so I can send one off to Commercial Propshafts so they can finish off the shorter axle bar.

    The snapper from Fast Ford has been in touch and we're planning on using Shelsley Walsh for the photo shoot at the end of September. Just need to clear it with MAC on Monday.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Header tank has arrived


    And the 500mm long 32mm ally pipe to connect the rad to the inlet


    Plumbing it all together tonight.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Header tank install started (Tuesday evening). I'll complete it over the next few days.


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    as always , ultra neat!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    All plumbed in.

    New Header tank now on the drivers side.
    32mm alloy pipe now runs across the width of the radiator, saving a bit of weight in the process.


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    safer than a bit of flexible pipe drooping across there too .

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