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    baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Does anyone know or where to find details on how to baffle the sump on a Zetec silver top engine, the Fiesta type ? Or does anyone know who offers this as a service ?

    Any help greatly appreciated !

    Cheers !
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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    If you gonna use it in a rwd you need a sierra 1.8 cvh sump(that is steel and easy to baffle).
    If you don't want to do that your self you can buy a sump all finished from retromotorsport as i did.
    There is a thread about baffling a cvh sump on here see http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=85696


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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Thanks for the reply !

    Sump is a std alloy Zetec silvertop fitted to a fwd Mk1 Fiesta Supersport.

    There seems to be plenty info on fitting / modifying Zetecs for rwd but not a lot on fwd !!!

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    www.zetecinside.com pretty much everything you need for mk1 fiestas

    She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    What is so confusing about your sump?
    Zetec Mk 1 Escort
    Mk 2 X Pack Capri 3.0S (not a copy, the real thing)
    Mk 1 XR4i
    Mk 3a Fiesta Si

    www.zetecescorts.bravehost.com

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Theres nothong 'confusing' about it, its just that there isn't a lot of info for doing any work on a fwd Zetec like baffling the sump etc.

    As it is to be used for competition a baffled sump is a must !

    Any ideas / advice ?

    Cheers !
    David

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    So mate, I was doing a play on words!!!

    I have seen some dry sump kits advertised quite cheaply on www.findit.co.uk, that may be your best option.
    Zetec Mk 1 Escort
    Mk 2 X Pack Capri 3.0S (not a copy, the real thing)
    Mk 1 XR4i
    Mk 3a Fiesta Si

    www.zetecescorts.bravehost.com

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    What is the zetecinside guy using as he does hillclimbs and stuff so will have come across the same problems as you. The standard zetec sump is as least designed for FWD so you are halfway there already unlike us RWD lot

    She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Theres more surge on a fwd engine / sump hence the need for baffles !

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    As far as I can tell, the zetecinside fiesta is using a standard Escort zetec sump? What tyres you going be running that will require extra baffling? Suppose you could always try dry sumping it.

    Quote Originally Posted by www.zetecinside.com
    You must use the 1.8 Escort/Fiesta oil pickup pipe, as the 2.0 pipe is the wrong shape for use with the 1.8 sump. The 2.0 pickup pipe would hit the inside of the 1.8 sump, and therefore you wouldn't be able to fit the 1.8 sump without first changing the oil pickup pipe. From experience at race tracks, the Zetec does not suffer from oil surge problems, like the old Crossflow did. So theres no point in fitting baffle plates etc in the sump, unless you're running a single seater, which experiences much higher G-forces than a saloon car, in which case a dry sump is probably the best solution.

    She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Quote Originally Posted by RChambers
    As far as I can tell, the zetecinside fiesta is using a standard Escort zetec sump? What tyres you going be running that will require extra baffling? Suppose you could always try dry sumping it.
    Using mega grippy Avon ACB10's so surge could be a problem !!!

    Dry sumping it is a bit extreme & expensive as the engine is basically standard but stillmaybe an option if theres a cheap enough kit on the go, any ideas ?

    I think I have a baffle plate(s) sussed out now but it'll take a bit of time to sort.

    Thanks for the info !

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    no probs. The zetecinside fiesta is a hillclimb car so also using slicks. I would see how you go with the standard sump as another zetec is only couple hundred quid if you have problems

    She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    Quote Originally Posted by RChambers
    no probs. The zetecinside fiesta is a hillclimb car so also using slicks. I would see how you go with the standard sump as another zetec is only couple hundred quid if you have problems
    The first corner on the first event we have planned is a tight hairpin which will probably cause the most surge, I managed to knacker a good x-flow at the same corner more than 10 years ago !

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    Re: baffling sump on Fiesta silver top Zetec fitted to Mk1 Fiesta

    im sure you could rig a steel baffle around the pickup pipe fairly easily. base it on the thread link above, try to limit oil moving along the lenghth of crank ( sorry if im sounding obvious)

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