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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Quote Originally Posted by exboyracer View Post
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    No trust me I have this and it is like tennis elbow after losening and tightening a 100 or so bastard M10 bolts that have new nordlocks on them

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    It's running again now , so just needs the flip front back on and some tidying up here and there. Took the opportunity to paint the lower wishbones and panhard rod while it was up on stilts . They were chipped to hell and the had little paint left. She started ok , the new ring gear helped ! Drove it around the lawn to check both clutch cylinders were working and all gears are selectable ------ feel a lot better now .

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Might be fun to drive it as it is Click image for larger version Name:	repairs clutch etc 010.jpg Views:	20 Size:	159.1 KB ID:	55114

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    Might be fun to drive it as it is Attachment 55114
    I'm jealous of the car, and the garden

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    Well , if Buckinghamshire's not too far , you're welcome to a beer in the garden and tyre kicking session any time you fancy David . Could always find a bed too

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    Well done on getting it back together chap!
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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Decided to strengthen the front suspension towers that hold the inboard rockers so have put a 20mm square tube (it was already in my shed) between the top rear of both towers , bolted , not welded. I'd have trouble removing the engine if welded and I couldn't use the rocker pivot bolts for the brace because my ARB is in the way. I could have moved the ARB to the 25 x 50 mm's tube behind the shocks to pull the links back out the way but now the engine's back in it's bloody awkward --- hence the compromise.
    Whether I'll actually feel the difference in the front end depends on whether it '' WAS '' flexing --- we'll see .
    Also fancied another tube from the bulkhead to the bottom of the rocker tower --- there's one on the driver's side but not the passenger side , mainly for easy exhaust manifold pipe fitting . I might attempt a bolted in type if I can get at it . Should have thought about these two mod's while the engine and box was outClick image for larger version Name:	repairs clutch etc 024 (Small).jpg Views:	475 Size:	69.4 KB ID:	55232

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    F1 ---- What a drive by ASTON CLINTON's quickest Aussy at MONACO today -------- never managed to catch a word with him , even though he has a restaurant locally . Shame , I could do with some free lessons for the price of a pint

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    I'm entered into the TWMC sprint at Goodwood this Saturday and the weather looks dire . Seems to be the norm for 2012 , although Abingdon was great both days.
    There are 5 in my class , RADICAL SR3 RS , VW SCIROCCO , STRIKER & M1 ESCORT spaceframe plus me. No idea what power/speed the radical and scirocco will have but the ESCORT has 280bhp N/A and the STRIKER is supercharged and also has 280bhp ---- plus me with 231bhp . In the wet just about anything can happen but hopefully not like the APRIL event with a fatality. At least I know the bellhousing is connected to the gearbox this time.

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    Fingers crossed for you mate!
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    Good luck

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    What a very lucky day , absolutely NO rain even though thunder storms forecast. Also the Radicals / there were two on the day / got moved to another class so it was a fairer battle. I failed scrutes on worn belt but my friendly opposition got me replacement locally so all was ok again. I didn't win but am very chuffed with my time of 93.43sec's (my last quickest in 2011 was 96.08sec's). Simon beat me at 91.44sec's in his supercharged Striker then Nigel was 99.58sec's in his spaceframe Escort.
    The front suspension tower strengthener tube certainly changed the car's behavier on turn in , very twitchy and required careful steering input , so now there's an opportunity to lower the rear a touch/lessen the rake , for better rear grip without inducing understeer.
    This made me 10th fastest overall with Simon at 8th then Nigel 18th ----- a good day and am really amazed at my huge jump in lap time --- just not absolutely certain where it came from.

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    Good stuff
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    Well done, great time!

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

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    Well done, great time!
    Wow , just shows what those little washers can do

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    I've spent a bit of time analysing how the car behaved after fitting the suspension brace , also looking at the front tyre wear regarding the rubber that normally rolls off the whole surface with my previous set-up. Obviously the towers were moving before for that to happen because having got it home and looked carefully at the front treads , particularly the left front , only the centre to outside edge is rubbered or rolling off. So camber/castor were increasing during weight transfer/cornering which can only happen with tower movement.

    With that in mind , I've adjusted camber , rake and toe to get back the balance I had before and some extra rear grip with lessening the rake . She was running 2deg neg camber , now 2.7deg neg and dropped the rear coilovers just half a turn to 21mm's rake , previously 23mm's. Toe was 2mm's toe in overall , now it's 1.5mm's toe in .

    All I need now is some tracktime to see if my analysis was right

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    Click image for larger version Name:	CLUB STYLUS FLAG 003.jpg Views:	4 Size:	148.7 KB ID:	56540Motorsport-events are having an open pitlane trackday at Abingdon on the 20th July , so having just tinkered with my set-up , I may go on this one just to see what she feels like .

    I didn't know about Prescott's RWYB hillclimb day on the 19th August but having read what you guys were doing for it , I asked to be included. However , after telling the organisers that my car has only got an MSA log book and not road going , he asked if I'd like a stand for Stylus's !!! Answer was obviously YES !
    So a stand for 10 cars at present for our club as opposed to the manufacturer in the name of --- CLUB STYLUS . I bought an extendable flagpole for £5-99p and a flag for the same then a very kind lady in the village stitched some red letters onto it for me .
    If you hadn't heard of Stylus's before I posted on here , a year or so back and go to Prescott on 19th August ---- you will then

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    I didn't go to Abingdon Motorsport-events trackday with the Stylus so have entered the B&HMC Goodwood sprint on the 4th of August. What a class line-up though !!!
    My Stylus 2lt 231bhp
    Escort spaceframe 2lt 280bhp
    Cortina 5.7lt ---- bhp ??
    Ultima Cantrac 4.4lt ----- bhp ??
    RX7 6.3lt race tuned ----- this guy beat me last time by 5 sec's !!!! Andy Embling , ex - motorbike racer apparently .

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    A really good day after a very wet start at the B&HMC EAGLE Sprint. Beat all but the big beast of Andy Embling which he now tells me is actually 6.7lts and over 600bhp .
    Anyway my wet/damp practice double lap was 174.06 sec's which I don't believe is correct --- otherwise I'd be doing an 87sec's lap which I've NEVER done. The standing start part of that was 98.29 sec's which proves my point ie. flying lap would have to be 76 sec's !!!! NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. That's single seater lap time.

    It dried out nicely later and my first timed run was 94.64 sec's . At this point I was leading the class , including Andy Embling's beast . This really fired me up and my last run was a 93.84 sec's which I thought might just secure me the win but Andy then popped in a 93.39 sec's --- can't beat cubic centremetres aye , so 2nd in class again .

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    Well done, great result!

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    Well done, great result!
    Getting that close to Andy's monster(0.45sec's) was almost as good as being first against lesser beasts --- last time we met he was 91 sec's and me 96 sec's .
    If I could find some pro race 1.2 wheels cheap and put some slicks or avon zzr's on , I might possibly get him next time The wheels/tyres I run now weigh 17 kgs a piece .

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    What size wheels do you run then?

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    What size wheels do you run then?
    Compomotive ML 7 x 15 ET15 . I could go to ET10 at the front just and ET ZERO at the rear or even an 8 inch rim .
    Another possibilty would be to go to 13's (much lighter) but using 60 profile (slightly mess about with my gearing though for top end ? Swings and roundabouts as usual ---- lower chassis height with 13's/lower top speed.

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    I entered N Weald sprint in Sept but got beaten by a 450bhp 4 wheel drive TIGER kit car --- that was balistic quick . Also there was a 4 wheel drive Escort Cosworth with unknown bhp but had launch control ---- it just stood there on the line , lifted rev's to sky high then shot off like a bullet !!!
    So that put me in 3rd .
    Then I fancied a sprint at Castle Combe , having been there on a charity day with my son in his MGF160BHP Trophy . Really enjoyed the circuit so looked up on our/FDMC/ACSMC championships to see if it was on their list --- it was , on the 28th October So sent off for an entry and there was 7 weeks to go before the date ---------- already had 12 reserves and most places were filled in JULY , AUGUST !!!!!!
    So that was the end of my season -- bit disappointed not to be trying out Castle Combe for the first time ever.
    Anyway bought myself a used MUREX 186C MIG and small pillar drill , so having fun in off season but need to off load a 50lt gas cylinder for a few quid --- way too big for me and nobody will fill it either

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    A guy from Italy found me on this forum a while back and sent me a PM regarding me making him a front ARB kit for his Striker (Hello Andrea if you're watching/lurking) So my new MUREX got used making up a few bits and bobs recently. Rodended wishbones , ARB , Rocking arms also rear trailing links for fitting greater travel shocks --- all on SYLVA derived cars . I am still amazed at the internet's ability to bring all people into one '' village '' so to speak ---- I've made suspension bits for guys in the Belgium , Malaysia and now Italy --- how do they find me Click image for larger version Name:	Stylus ARB BRACKETS on the left --- Striker ARB and BRACKETS on the right (Large).jpg Views:	297 Size:	121.2 KB ID:	60837Click image for larger version Name:	Trailing links lower mount 003 (Medium).jpg Views:	299 Size:	48.6 KB ID:	60838Click image for larger version Name:	Trailing links lower mount 001 (Medium).jpg Views:	298 Size:	79.3 KB ID:	60839

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Looks like quality kit

    What are the advantages over standard issue bits if you don't mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exboyracer View Post
    Looks like quality kit

    What are the advantages over standard issue bits if you don't mind me asking?
    The major problem for other Stylus owners is that the factory has ceased trading in 2007 , so no spares available . Having said that , the bits I've made over the last few years have been developed from my competition Stylus . Also , because SYLVA AUTOKITS designed many models with similar chassis then sold off the building rights to other manufacturers ----- there's more than just Stylus's I can make bits for.
    With the top rocking arms of Stylus front suspension , I make them much lighter/tubular and fit rodends or spherical bearings/developing now , on the outer arm to upright/preferably ally billet.
    Then to match those I can make lower wishbones , rodended and in CDS 16 gauge . With these comes adjustability/previously bushes.
    The ARB/front that I designed and make helps prevent rear driven wheel lift and front grip on 'turn in' ------ but without the need to remove the radiator/steering rack/wishbones for ARB link welding.
    The rear lower links on the photo make it possible to fit longer shocks , giving more piston travel and still lower the car with the right spring length. The standard link was originally straight too but with the shock mount welded on top of the tube/50mm higher . The factory offered a lowering/longer shock fitment link , by bending roundtube/non CDS then welding the shock mount in the '' dip '' created by bending. I found this very difficult to repeat accurately in a pair without really good pipe bending gear ----- hence my solution in the photo of 30x30x2.5mm box , split apart to allow the shock to sit 50mm lower between two 3mm side plates.
    Not as pretty as the manufacturer's design but simpler for me to make with just ''ordinary tools in shed'' gear , as opposed to a real workshop.
    Also all the above were easier for me to make up jigs for. Having some success with my own car has brought the contacts I think , just forums chat really and word of mouth. Helps pay my own competition expenses

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    Just made these for a twin rotary engined Stylus sporting over 400bhp to propel it's 600kgs !
    The black one's are what came off the car --- one as you can see was bent just near the upright joint. I wasn't mad keen on their design either , threaded inserts simply butt welded onto small tube ?Click image for larger version Name:	Wishbones 008 (Large).jpg Views:	262 Size:	125.3 KB ID:	61185Click image for larger version Name:	Wishbones 003 (Large).jpg Views:	263 Size:	124.3 KB ID:	61186

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Dont take this as offensive but are you really 68? Your love and approach gives me a chance i can still learn

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    Dont take this as offensive but are you really 68? Your love and approach gives me a chance i can still learn
    Sadly YES , I wanted to compete from the age of 10 having been taken to Goodwood and seen Fanjio hit the Chicane which was then a brick structure I believe . Should have put me off but at that age it just seemed exciting. Then at 14yrs I bought an AUSTIN 7 for £7-50 (or £7 & 10 shillings as it then was) . Father was a farmer and didn't want me to get into it but my uncle was ex --- REME and he directed me as I stripped it bit by bit . He then took the crank , pistons , rods off to VOSPERS for rebuild while showing me what to do with the head and valves . Once the bits were back , he watched and instructed me putting it all back together. That was my only training but I've never forgotten what he said '' all engines are the same , doesn't matter if it's just a one piston lawn mower or the Queen Mary , they are all basically the same '' . I thought the Queen Mary was steam but suppose he was just making a point.
    I then started taking everything off the chassis to use it as a base for building a HAMBLIN kit car circa 1958 with a view to racing it. Uncle lived 90 miles away so I never completed it but sold the prepared chassis/engine/box to an AUSTIN 7 restorer .
    Then age 53yrs I saw the STYLUS kit in a magazine which co-incided with ''MR BLAIR'' taking 20% off pension credits for the self employed ------- that was it , I immediately stopped putting money into my pension and bought the chassis !!!
    If I can compete , anyone can

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    Well I didn't manage to keep my 4 year championship run of wins going in 2012 , I didn't get closer than 2nd in class so maybe it's a sign I'm wavering now . I still drive it very hard and enjoy competing , maybe 2013 will be the season to get back to form .

    I'll be off to Goodwood for a General test day in April for the usual '' wake up '' session but before then I've been invited by a fellow SYLVA driver to drive his twin rotary engined Phoenix at Abbeville in France . That'll be a definite wake up call because it has a super charger and puts out 300bhp at the wheels !!! Similar to my Stylus apart from the grunt but weighing just 550kgs .
    So its out on my bike for a few weeks then off to the ' doc ' to get through the licence medical again . Having BP and CLL makes it not a forgone conclusion these days --- ugh !

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    Good luck!
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    Phew ------------------ got through my medical for 2013 !!!! and thanks for both your good luck wishes . Eyesight's a bit crap in the left eye so only down to 5 lines with glasses but the ' chassis's ' holding up ok.

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    Abbeville in that 300bhp@wheels Phoenix was awesome . Having never seen the track before I did my usual ''push to find out session'' --- I found out it'll spin like a top if you don't know where the next corner goes !!! Two Exiges passed me to the left plus another to my right , with me still going backwards in a straight line fortunately. After that I got on fine but it needed really sensitive throttle control in the very tight bends and would spin the wheels at 100mph when changing up to 4th plus a little wiggle.My April test day didn't last 3 laps ------- gearbox problems , sticking in 3rd and 5th gear so packed up and went home. Cutting a long story short , it was engine out yet again , down to BGH gearech in KENT while he stripped and rebuilt it the same day -- brilliant service and a great guy with huge knowledge and skills at 80yrs of age, along with banter close to scarcasm !!So missed my first event in April and entered TWMC Goodwood event in June . Managed a 94.56sec best which got me 2nd in class against a Radical . Just done Goodwood again for the BRIGHTON & HOVE EAGLE sprint and did a 94.18secs best which got me 4th from 10 entrants . GT40's , LOTUS Buick's , CORTINA V8 , The Phoenix I tried at Abbeville !!! ESCORT Formula2 chassied Cosworth 2.3lt , SPORTS 2000 driven by an ex- formula 3 driver VERY WELL TOO at 86 sec's !!!!Next event for me is EELMOOR Sprint near Aldershot on 6th Oct then CASTLE COOMBE on the 19th Oct.

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    I forgot to say that the reason for no posts since earlier this year is that I couldn't for some strange reason log onto this forum but Clint has just sorted me out

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    Strangely , after Clint sorted it all out for me and my last post saying so ------ I've not been able to post since then until today simply stopped trying. Since my last event of 2013 and winning the ACSMC Sprint championship , Sports Libre over 1800cc class for 4th time since 2005/6 , I decided to modify the Stylus a little more.(having told myself that at 70yrs I'd spent enough and must just gracefully come 2nd on occasions from now on)
    What I had in mind was to attempt to get down to my times at Goodwood of 8/9 yrs ago --- h'mmm ok , probably not very realistic but let's face it motorsport is a disease , albeit a very acceptable one . I had worked out that changing from my heavy 8.5kgs 15x7 in wheels shod with R888 soft 205x50 tyres --- to 13x7.5 in wheels shod with Avon ZZR A24 compound 215x55 tyres , would lose me 10mph at the top end BUT hopefully would get me through the corners quicker plus be at top rpm in 5th much sooner thereby lowering laptime.
    I googled every source of wheels you can name for size/weight and price , including Image three piece at a stonking £280 a piece !!!! Fantastic weight but just not in my price budget Several one piece wheels at quite light weights but not really light enough if you're going to spend the money --- most around 4.5kgs . Finally I found Carl Austin at FORCE RACING WHEELS . A brilliant wheel choice , just about any combination you could think about , including many 3 piece designs and weights plus a really nice guy to deal with face to face . I removed the front upright/caliper/hub/disc and drove up to LEEDS to meet him . It was clear that he could produce any off-set and width from 10 in upwards but there would be a 6 weeks waiting time . That didn't bother me as the 2013 season was over and no events till April this year. Price was £192 a piece for 2 front at one offset plus 2 rear at a different offset and would weigh just 3.54kgs each. He normally built the wheels I chose with 5mm wheel centre webbing but I went for 7mm webbing as my car is heavier than his usual MINI race car clients cars plus had 100bhp more than most of those . Otherwise the wheels would have weighed 3.4 kgs !!! Another tricky thing for him to acheive was to clear the inner wheel from touching the steering arms I'd recently made that easily cleared my 15in wheels and wheelweights.
    Unlucky for Carl but great for my budget , was the fact he'd made a very tiny snag 1mm deep on the anodised gold centre of one wheel while etching FORCE RACING WHEELS around the edge . Very very nice of him to offer me £100 off the set of four OR make me another wheel centre in a couple of weeks -------------------- I took the discount and simply filled the snag with resin and gold Hammerited it over. He was upset though and not due to the discount offered but that he had never snagged one before. Smashing guy and I would recommend him to anyone.

    The result of all this is that in April this year at Goodwood , I went 1 second quicker than last season's best at 93.27sec's standing start lap , so very pleased my theory came right .

    I have photos but have lost the ability to downsize pics in my computor since repaired but if anyone could possibly put some on for me then I could email them after pm your email address ?

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    What a fantastic story and write up on your amazing car and achievements. I also own a kit car (Fisher) but always found it really hard for anyone to work on it or even know what to do on it. I would love to touch base with you to chat about our car.
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    I'd be happy to meet up any time PeterM , afterall I am retired . My car doesn't travel though or rather ' not on oad ' at least , so it would either be a place midway between us but probably better here at mine in ASTON CLINTON . If coming from LONDON you'd take the M25 to junc 20 then off up the A41 towards Aylesbury for about 13 miles . PM me for the address or postcode if you fancy coming here , email etc.

    Looking at your car it appears to be a FURY but the front end doesn't seem FURY . Also the front suspension appears to be outboard like one of Jeremy Phillips earlier Striker designs (inboard front rockers NOT outboard wishbones) Engine is obviously 2lt XE . Do you compete in it and is it road going ?

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    Hi thanks for replying, would love to meet up and have a chat about cars, would like to see your views on our car. I share it with a close friend and never raced or competed in it but would love to. We have been to spa and various tracks with it. Maybe even pop over to you with the car on the trailer if that's ok!.

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