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    Stylussprinter's Stylus

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    "My car is an SSC STYLUS which I completed in 1999 . Did a hillclimb school day at Gurston which was brilliant apart from me messing up after 5 runs. There were about 25 of us and apparently '' some '' marshals/instructors ??? were betting on which of two would come off first --- afraid it was me , buggering up the right front wishbone in the process . This one day is what launched me into motorsport --- I just couldn't get the day out of my head ----- wishbone replaced , then I started getting serious !
    Engine is a 2lt zetec which I built with Dunnell head,cams,verniers,engine mgt. Sump,flywheel,clutch,rod bolts from Raceline.It runs on Weber 45DCOE's and is turning out 170bhp @ the wheels. Apart from re-jetting , changing chokes to 40's from 36's at first build and fitting full radius trumpets , the engine is the same now as in 1999.
    Gearbox is Quaife 2.04 , 1.54 , 1.21 , 1.0 and 5th unknown but think 0.87
    Diff' in the live Escort is 4.4 ATB in an alloy casing.
    Up front is an all Raceleda set up since 2005.ALLOY everything supported all round on National rod ends.Original spec' was EscortM2 struts/cut. Just recently fitted an anti-rollbar to the front developed by SSC and tested by me. The rear suspension is all supported by polybushes in it's 2 leading/ 2 trailing links plus panhard.
    Over a period of 4 yrs the car has been lowered involving some major component changes plus body mod's .
    AVO steel single adj' coilovers were 13 inch all round in 1999 with 180lbs front 130lbs rear .
    Now Trakspax alloy DA 10 inch with 285lbs 7 inch coils FRONT & AVO alloy DA 14 inch with 250lbs 8 inch coils REAR.(concave trailing links to allow for 14 inch sh.)
    Exhaust moved from under chassis to side exit and all equal primaries.
    Wheels/tyres changed from 14x6 plus 185x60's
    TO -- 15x7 plus 205x50's Compomotive ML
    Wheel arches cut/flared to take new wheels and lowered chassis.
    Front track now measures 40mm wider with RACELEDA uprights supported on new wishbones/rod ends.

    Having done this in several stages the car has got quicker at each move which was pleasing.After the hillclimb school I joined BARC SW thinking I'd hillclimb the car but unless you entered via another group with it's own reg's it wasn't possible to get into the class I wanted. Only sports libre was available where I'd be outclassed.
    SO --- I entered the ACSMC Speed championship and have had fun in that from 2002 to date.
    OVERALL BEST NOVICE 2002
    2nd in class championship 2003
    1st in class championship 2004
    2nd in class championship 2005
    No championship entered in 2006 just did two test days and entered TWMC TON HIRE sprint at Goodwood 1st July(in sports libre as no tax/ins etc) 1st in class -- first ever at Goodwood so dead chuffed

    Entered into Brighton Speed Trials next week also in sports libre so am expecting to get blown away. 36 entries in the class and mostly 6.3's and 5.7's etc , you get the picture"

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    cant see the pics m8 but good luck

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Would love it if I could see it
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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    NiCE , i like that
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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Quote Originally Posted by 351escort View Post
    NiCE , i like that
    Did a 13.38 and 102 terminal at Brighton . More grunt coming out of it by this winters end so hope to beat my 91sec's personal best Goodwood lap in 2007
    Changing cams again plus a little more headwork , bigger valves , comp'n springs and throttle bodies. Just hope the box and axle stands up to it.

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Wooow very nice you have any engine shots Gary?


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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Very nice car that, always prefered them to all the caterfields that look the same

    Very cool pic in the garden btw

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    Question Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Very interesting car.
    So you will convert the engine to efi??

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    looks like fun

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    A few things have happened since last post on here. In 2008 I managed to hit a tree on the very last event of the season. The manufacturer has ceased opperating but he did get a half body moulded up for me after 6 mths waiting. Having the wheel and suspension come up through the front right wing , broke most suspension bits plus radiator so decided not to just repair and bond it on but make the whole front end hinge forward. Made my own hinge system because the manufacturers design wouldn't allow it to open without fouling the ground and only being half open.
    After a lot of work and a half body respray plus rearranging the air intake and radiator , I got it ready to enter the TWMC TONHIRE Goodwood sprint on the 27th June 2009 . Won it in some style against 5 other entries for sports libre . The best two cars , I'd assumed would put me into 3rd at very best , having not sat in the car since the 2008 crash on track. One was an Escort M1 space frame/coil over sus 'n , weighing 625kgs and sporting 260bhp plus running slicks. The other even scarier car was a GTD40 with 500bhp plus also running slicks .
    At the end of the day I beat the GTD40 by 1.3 sec's and the Escort by 10 sec's over a standing start two lap sprint. My Stylus runs Toyo R888's and weighs 609 kgs with 231bhp (2lt ZETEC on Dunnell TB's , cams , valves etc -- since last post when on 45's with 200bhp)
    I followed that with an entry into the Brighton and Hove Goodwood sprint on August 1st 2009 ---------------------- it just absolutely pissed down and against all odds I won that too and with a rediculous margin ---- my first ever wet win , cars were flying off the track in all classes . My time was my slowest ever at 118 sec's for the single standing start lap .

    Didn't enter any more events till April 24th 2010 at Goodwood. I won that too and against the main rival of the Escort space frame . My time was 97.8 sec's , his around 7 sec's slower . My most recent event was last weekend also at Goodwood for the first ever sprint organised by the CTCRC and sure enough the Escort was there too , this time I was even quicker at 95.48 sec's which beat his time again , although he also was quicker than last time.
    Next event is at the Abingdon Motorsport Carnival on the 12th of June . This will be a lot tougher competition with the best sports libre cars from all over the country so am not expecting to be a winner here . Top 3 would be nice.

    Got pic's of repaired car plus engine shots but can't upload on here . I'm used to uploading via a browser to '' my pictures '' on the PC so stuffed

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Ahh ha..your back, thought you had got lost to the ' Global Downturn ' ...

    Bad luck on the crash, and well done on the results so far this year, looks like the crash may have done some good (every cloud etc )

    As for the pictures, at the top of the page, under the sponsors banners, theres a few tabs starting on the left hand side, the last one says ' uploader '
    click that and it opens a new page, shows ten 'browse' boxes, click browse and loacte your pictures, double click a pic to enter into the first box, click browse on the second box, and double click teh next picture.. repeat for all pictures (upto 10) and click ' upload ' on that page,
    the page refreshes and shows the codes for the pics, highlight all the codes, right click and copy.
    On the forum, click '+reply to thread' and type some words, ie 'here are some pics' then paste the codes into the reply box, after the codes are there, click 'post reply'

    look forward to seeing them

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    The pics ..

    1)flip open after repairs showing my kevlar engine guards cut from second hand floor panels and gold heat reflector over heat mat , curticy of a friend in F1.


    2)2008 Abingdon chicane with engine upgrade but still sporting a one piece body.


    3)upgraded engine just collected from Paul Dunnell . This is my original block and head that ran on 45's until 2006


    4)shutting edge being made up after my tree shunt ready for a new hinged flip designed front end.



    5)small bonnet bonded in to the cut and shut new half body made by Tim Duffee just 2mm's thick. Carbon fibre strengtheners needed to prevent it flapping around.



    6)originally the body shell sat higher on the road so had smaller arches. My modded car at 90mm's front chassis height needed the arches cut out 35mm's and flared 40mm's to just cover the wheels , hence the holes to help bonding.



    space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.



    8)me trying to make sure he doesn't and lifting the inside front.



    9)exiting Goodwood's chicane for my first ever wet win in 2009.



    10)upgraded engine installed before body damage with own made airbox fitted to house 115mm's trumpets.Air pipe 100mm's to grill filter.



    11)kevlar flare overlapping inside and filled to give extra support.



    12)looking very poorly at home after the tree incident.



    13)fettling for a tidy shutting edge and air vents cut out.



    14)ready to paint now.



    15)outside for a wash before trailering to paint.



    16)front cut off approximately for easier suspension repairs. Exact cut when the body arrives.







    17)suspension repaired plus all new rodends for safety. Hinge and radiator yet to be done.



    18)Tim Benbow SSC Stylus manufacturer making the first cut . I'd already designed the hinge system to allow full opening before the body came .You can see he's in thinking mode ---- think twice --- cut once .
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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    If you write captions for each one i'll edit them in for you
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    Thanks so much for you help with the photos , I'll email you with the captions named by number starting at the top ok --- pic 1 = open flip etc .
    Many thanks for all this . Rob
    PS. I came 26th out of 150 entries across all classes at Abingdon on the 12th June and 5th out of 8 entries in my class/sports libre. Ist was a JUNO 250bhp on slicks , 2nd a DARRION 300bhp on slicks , 3rd a WESTFIELD twin rotary engine on slicks , 4th (beating me by 1/10th sec) an MGV8 3.6lt on slicks , 5th -STYLUS 231bhp(me)on Toyo R888's , 6th an MG 6R4 on slicks , 7th an ANGLIA 2lt xe 230bhp on slicks , 8th an EVO ??? on slicks.
    There are two courses , one coned out point and squirt , the other more of a half Goodwood style course and both your fastest times are added together from each course to arrive at your position in class and overall .
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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Post each caption here ... its easier for me ..

    flip open

    repair

    more repairs

    etc


    and Congrats on the position.. onwards and upwards
    etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retromotorsport View Post
    Post each caption here ... its easier for me ..

    flip open

    repair

    more repairs

    etc


    and Congrats on the position.. onwards and upwards
    etc
    OK 1 to 18 pic's
    1)flip open after repairs showing my kevlar engine guards cut from second hand floor panels and gold heat reflector over heat mat , curticy of a friend in F1.
    2)2008 Abingdon chicane with engine upgrade but still sporting a one piece body.
    3)upgraded engine just collected from Paul Dunnell . This is my original block and head that ran on 45's until 2006 .
    4)shutting edge being made up after my tree shunt ready for a new hinged flip designed front end.
    5)small bonnet bonded in to the cut and shut new half body made by Tim Duffee just 2mm's thick. Carbon fibre strengtheners needed to prevent it flapping around.
    6)originally the body shell sat higher on the road so had smaller arches. My modded car at 90mm's front chassis height needed the arches cut out 35mm's and flared 40mm's to just cover the wheels , hence the holes to help bonding.
    7)space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.
    8)me trying to make sure he doesn't and lifting the inside front.
    9)exiting Goodwood's chicane for my first ever wet win in 2009.
    10)upgraded engine installed before body damage with own made airbox fitted to house 115mm's trumpets.Air pipe 100mm's to grill filter.
    11)kevlar flare overlapping inside and filled to give extra support.
    12)looking very poorly at home after the tree incident.
    13)fettling for a tidy shutting edge and air vents cut out.
    14)ready to paint now.
    15)outside for a wash before trailering to paint.
    16)front cut off approximately for easier suspension repairs. Exact cut when the body arrives.
    17)suspension repaired plus all new rodends for safety. Hinge and radiator yet to be done.
    18)Tim Benbow SSC Stylus manufacturer making the first cut . I'd already designed the hinge system to allow full opening before the body came .You can see he's in thinking mode ---- think twice --- cut once .

    8)

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Well , I may be tempting fate here but I've entered Brands Hatch sprint on the 12th Sept-- OR-- rather I'm on the reserve list having sent the forms off on the 2nd August. I've never spectated there , let alone driven the Indy circuit so am a touch nervous about learning ' paddock bend ' on a sprint !
    All tips gratefully received . Apparently there's no camping the night before so it'll mean leaving the house at 4-30am but if I here nothing regarding moving from reserve to an entry by Friday 10th , then I wont be trailering the Stylus all down to Brands simply hoping someone doesn't turn up .
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    Well, Brands was a very steep learning curve ! To cut a long story short , on entering Paddock looking for 4th out of 5th , I managed to get 2nd pulling 10,000rpm in the process !!! Got back into 3rd and got my way up to Druids then back into the pots . The engine sounded ok but I didn't actually open the bonnet to listen . Went out for the next run thinking '' I know this track now '' then promptly understeered my way off at Druids ---ugh ! Someone had told me not to brake before Bridge because being uphill it wasn't necessary --- h'mmm . Next run after clearing out masses of gravel from every where , I got so determined to get it right for a winning time that I forgot to come off after the timing equipment along the Cooper Straight !!! This was my last run so assumed the clerk would disqualify me. I went to appologise on my knees and they let me off so the time stood at 97 sec's standing start ---- not on the pace but got me some points. It was 1.75 laps of the Indy. A few weeks later I was preparing the car for the Debden Sprint and after checking everything I started the engine to load the car ---------- h'mmm , it didn't start straight off then sounded like the tappets were short of oil when it did start . Again to cut it short , I cancelled my entry and started investigating and it was bad news. Valves had touched the pistons , guides and tappets were buggered then to top that number 2 port had a crack into the waterway --- ugh ! Welding was tried 3 times but failed so a secondhand full race head has been used but it's valves are bigger than the big valves already in the bust head. I can't afford steel everything plus a dry sump to take advantage of it's potential so it will have to run under 8000rpm and not the 9500rpm that it's capable of. NO big bhp gains then but hopefully a little more across the range , we'll see . I'm collecting it tomorrow , it's on the dyno testing today at Dunnell's. Financially this will be VERY painfull , even worse than the body and suspension damage in 2008 . One saving grace though is that Ive just heard Ive won the sports libre class championship in the ACSMC Hamilton Classics Sprint Champ. A rather expensive way to win a ' pot ' though aye ?

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Bad news

    The winning .. good news

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    Engine now sorted but a crack in the head on port number two exhaust couldn't be welded after several attempts. So now have a second hand full race head but with slightly bigger valves than on the original head . Nicer head too but most of the added grunt will be at the top end and I couldn't afford the steel crank,rods and dry sump to pull 9500rpm . It will cut at 7800 as opposed to 7750 rpm before . So not expecting gains really --- perhaps a little more torque ??? We'll see . At the moment my varley 25 is having trouble starting it . It turns over ok but half fires for five minutes before starting. It shows a green light and 13.4 volts on the auto charger but won't start it a second time after switching off . Not sure if I need a new one or maybe a varley 30 with this head ?????

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Liking that a lot! Respect to you for your determination too!

    Perhaps one of those gel batteries might be a better option? Lighter too! Is the starter motor man enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervhill View Post
    Liking that a lot! Respect to you for your determination too!

    Perhaps one of those gel batteries might be a better option? Lighter too! Is the starter motor man enough?
    It turns over quick enough but just pops about almost running but not quite. Seems to take a lot of this before actually starting. Battery is VARLEY REDTOP 25 and the starter is geared from LUKEMOTORSPORT . It started perfectly before the rebuild , normally after 5 or 10 sec's . I'm not sure what you mean by a Gel battery ?
    These batteries are supposed to be good for 680 cranking amps over 20 sec's . The Dunnell ecu is programmed to cut off if there's insufficient power so I'm assuming that may be the problem . Starter drawing most of the current along with the fuel pump then possibly just not enough left to function the injectors ????? I'm no electrics wizz so just guessing. I've sent the ecu back to Paul Dunnell so he can check for faults possibly ?
    Having said that , it really sounds nice when revved once she's hot.

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    keep the updates coming

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Surely when the engine fires and starts to run the alternator takes over? Maybe the alternator hasn't got enough oomph? Either that or the ignition is a little out? However I'd doubt that if it has been mapped by dunnel. Just guessing I suppose.

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    sounds like a power break to the starter .. left an earth loose or possibly the terms have gone green in the wire ... put a jump lead from the engine direct to the battery earth.. no change... put a jump lead from the engine/starter body, to the earth term on the battery.. still no joy... check the kill switch ..undo the big reds and both together ..

    if none of that works ..get the battery checked with a discharge tester ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retromotorsport View Post
    sounds like a power break to the starter .. left an earth loose or possibly the terms have gone green in the wire ... put a jump lead from the engine direct to the battery earth.. no change... put a jump lead from the engine/starter body, to the earth term on the battery.. still no joy... check the kill switch ..undo the big reds and both together ..

    if none of that works ..get the battery checked with a discharge tester ..
    Thanks Gary for all the ideas . The engine does turn over fast enough and has sort of muted firing but takes loads of attempts before it will run . The engine is directly earthed to the chassis in two places and the battery negative is bolted directly to the head via the coilpack bracket and very secure. If the FIA cut off wasn't ok , could the engine turn and run at all ?
    I'm hoping the ecu will give clues when Paul has checked it out . He says a flashing light through a little 3mm hole in the ecu body indicates a fault . Mine flashes when you turn the ignition and ecu switch on then continues to flash during starting and when the engine is running !!! So unless he's misread the software instructions , (& is mean't to flash continuously) then something's not right but god knows what considering it does run eventually ------- VERY strange . Rob

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Does sound like an ECU /coil/injector problem...Like the cold start map is disabled ... but it can be missleading with hi-torque starters.. but saying about the flashing light.. i'd be going with ECU

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    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    I'm with Gary on this too, it suggests there's a mapping problem like I thought, it's not identifying the start map and idle map by sounds of things and might be reverting to a base map, a bit like a 'get you home' map on modern cars' ECU's.

    I'm sure the guys will sort it out, but if the engine turns over fine with no hesitation then there's no problem with the battery or the starter.

    Good luck with it!

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    I've had a long chat with Paul Dunnell today and apart from an issue with the air sensor(unit faulty or wire shorting) he assures me there are no issues with the ECU including no low power recorded. Cold start , recalibration for this head etc etc OK. So the ecu is in the post and I'll have to borrow my wife's laptop to load the original software onto , then plug in to the extention while it's starting and running. This is all very tricky for me , not being very into this sort of ' mechanics ' . COME back weber 45's all is forgiven !!!!!

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    Well I got nowhere with the laptop , couldn't even find the program on it. Tried starting again with my tractor battery 680amp job for a jumper onto the redtop 25 , no go ! Spent lots of time with light bulb and battery checking injector wiring and positives , other sensor wires too , all ok . Tried again for 15mins without result but the exhaust headers were quite hot so you'd thing fuel was getting there. I was invited out to lunch on Sunday so didn't try again till today . Looking down the plug holes , it was wet and messy . Pushed a cable tie down to see what it was but it was indistinct . Looked watery/ oily !!!!!! Started thinking of gasket even though it had been done by P Dunnell ? Finally I took the filter off after the gravity fed pump under the tank . Expected to see nothing because I'd already run the pump for two minutes with the pipe off the fuel rail and that looked fine. Nothing was exactly what I saw in a clean glass jar from the filter and pipes . Put it all back for another attempt to start and it was the same senario --- ten minutes buggering around almost but not starting. Again the exhaust got hotish. Then it ran once or twice for 2 to 4 sec's and finally it actually ran smoothly at tickover . Up to temp' and fan cooled back several times for 30 mins , everything normal , revved smoothly etc . Stopped it to see if it would start again. Left it 5mins and it started first time . Left again for 15mins and it started again easily . Although I saw no dirt I'll have to assume it was the filter ??????? If it starts tomorrow first time cold it's obviously sorted but it's bloody annoying solving a problem when you have no idea how you did it !!!!!

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    Unfortunately it didn't start on the button but took two or three minutes winding , hearing it fire , fade and try again. It restarted easy enough after I let it reach temp ' , stopped for five minutes and restarted. Dunnell sent me a new air temp sensor which I plugged in to see if the ecu led would stop flashing ---- no difference. I'd already bulb checked the wiring to it on Saturday . It all points towards the ecu cold start but he's checked and says not ???? The breather off the block plus cam cover both go into a container which has air holes at the top. There is normally a little oily water (tablespoon) in there after a competition event . Today there was a similar amount of only water ---- condensation?) I can see a 260 mile round trip with the trailer to Dunnell in sight?

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    [QUOTE=Stylussprinter;1693229]The pics ..





    space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.



    QUOTE]

    I'd say he wasn't trying hard enough (or maybe trying too hard) Out of interest I looked up both of your times,he did a best time of 102.24, you did a best time of 95.48..........Last time I was at Goodwood in my Escort I set a best single lap time of 98.76 . I ran in modprod class 9 btw
    Last edited by Pushrod King; 23-11-2010 at 21:29.

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    [QUOTE=Pushrod King;1734339]
    Quote Originally Posted by Stylussprinter View Post
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    space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.



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    I'd say he wasn't trying hard enough (or maybe trying too hard) Out of interest I looked up both of your times,he did a best time of 102.24, you did a best time of 95.48..........Last time I was at Goodwood in my Escort I set a best single lap time of 98.76 . I ran in modprod class 9 btw
    That's a really quick time in a '' real '' Escort without coilovers and normal weight etc . I'm around 3 sec's off my best ever single lap at Goodwood but that was a few years back . My best flying lap is 91.8 sec's but NOT in recent years .
    Have we been at the same venue before ------- what colour is your Escort M1 or M2 ? Put a pic ' up here then I'll recognise you out and about

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    Yesterday a friend on my ' club ' website said he thought my description of the aweful cold start as opposed to the easy hot start could be the water temp ' sensor , possibly due to over heating issues that can lead to the sensor altering it's range. I had planned to try and fool the ECU into thinking it was in hot running mode which coincided with my friend's advice---- so this morning (all frosty outside) I propped up my 2kw fan heater on top of the waterail where the bronze sensor screws in. Left it there for over 10 mins then poured boiling water directly over the sensor/waterail , turned the key and it started in about 10 sec's , not immediately but then the water in the sensor area won't have been proper hot temp , so looks like the ECU isn't getting a cold temp ' reading . I'm assuming from this that my sensor is '' duff '' and not the ECU cold start function . What do you guys think ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pushrod King View Post

    That's a really quick time in a '' real '' Escort without coilovers and normal weight etc . I'm around 3 sec's off my best ever single lap at Goodwood but that was a few years back . My best flying lap is 91.8 sec's but NOT in recent years .
    Have we been at the same venue before ------- what colour is your Escort M1 or M2 ? Put a pic ' up here then I'll recognise you out and about
    Here you go:



    I won my class in the all circuit championship and both acsmc championships in 2007.That was on 6" wide wheels and with a 1700 crossflow,I Think I'd be even faster now with 8" rear and 7" fronts and the new 1800 crossflow.

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    Here you go:


    That's a lovely example of the MK1. I'll look out for you next year then we can chat and tyre kick ! I've ordered a new water temp sender which should be with me tomorrow , so hopefully my fiasco with cold starting is finished .
    I won my class in the all circuit championship and both acsmc championships in 2007.That was on 6" wide wheels and with a 1700 crossflow,I Think I'd be even faster now with 8" rear and 7" fronts and the new 1800 crossflow.

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    Yes it sounds like the water temp sender,you can test the sensor using a multimeter but as it's probably a standard (cheap) Ford part it's worth changing it to eliminate it from being the cause of your problem.
    I don't sprint my car anymore as I now race it but may try and do the 2 lap twmc sprint at Goodwood if time/race meetings permit.

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    Water temp sensor replaced today and she fired up immediately . Problem solved .

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    Excellent stuff mate! A weight off the mind I'm sure! Stupid electronics!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylussprinter View Post
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    18)Tim Benbow SSC Stylus manufacturer making the first cut . I'd already designed the hinge system to allow full opening before the body came .You can see he's in thinking mode ---- think twice --- cut once .

    Hi Mate

    I was reading through your thread with interest as a good mate of mine had a very nice Vauxhall powered Stylus and I was interested in your starting problems when bugger me this last pic, there is my dear friend Andy Bailey who as I'm sure you know passed away last year very suddenly of cancer. RIP Andy

    Made me laugh though as he always had a cuppa in his hand

    So how did you know Andy? Do you know his bruv too?

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