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    MK1 turbo pinto

    I thought i would finally put "pen to paper" after seeing everyone's great projects. The plan is to put a pinto turbo into the brother in laws unfinished Mk1. Which i finally got off him with an offer he should have refused!!!! when he decided to buy a crotch rocket.
    So far the car has had new wings front panel sills rear arches and a front floor pan. Other than that the body is solid. I decided to MOT it before doing the conversion and enjoy it a little while whilst i collected bits for the job. New brakes all round and new inserts and rears (AVO adj) also some other bits and bobs saw off an MOT but i am still awaiting a proper drive as i await the docs back from our ever helpful DVLA so it can be taxed for free ?

    Other mods inclde twin cam anti roll bar double width kit 21/4 coil overs and tramp bars. which we did over the last few years before the brother in law lost interest any way here are some pics to get started with.

    The plan is to run megasquirt which i have with a wide band lambda etc which will be a first for me but i have been interested in engine management and the benefits for a few years but never really had a go. We shall see what happens
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    that looks quite mint mate
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    yeah mate, looking good!!! keep us updated on this yeah

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Nice looking project

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Posty finally turned up on a sunny saturday with the V5 so the car is taxed and i went for a spin, last time i had a proper spin in a MK1 was 17 or so years ago (first car). Nothing quite like it for spurring on a project.
    The plan is to concentrate on fitting up the spare engine and leave the current one in for some good old fun.
    Triggerwheels promptly sent me a 36-1 5 1/4 wheel which i was going to mount at the back of the pulley a change of plan and i am now going to fit it to the front with a 4mm spacer this will then be pinned aswell as using the main pulley bolt to clamp it. This means modding my previous attempt at ta bracket for the VR sensor.
    I am also planning on running the turbo oil return to the block does anyone know what the thread size is in the block as i am looking at a kit on ebay.com item 320087836225 which i can get with a 3/8 npt adapter (does this sound about right) ?

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Just make sure the trigger wheel is centric and the VR sensor is sturdily (is that a word?) mounted.

    My notes say the Pinto 205 oil return port is 3/8 NPT, so that should be OK.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Thanks for that. I have ordered the return so we shall see. I may make the base of the bracket again using some thicker plate. The one you see may turn out to be a pattern

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Not much done due to the usual distractions. Managed to finish of the vr sensor bracket which turned out great. The triggerwheel will be welded to the spacer which is held in place by two 5mm bolts which are tapped into the pulley. These need to be cut off and will act as pegs to to the wheel moving round. Once this is done things might speed up. Managed to go for a spin in the car again which gives no end of motivation.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    looking good mate. keep up the progress and obviosuly the updates

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Had the exhaust off as I was getting headaches and feeling sick when i drove the car checked the pipe and guess what the manifold was leaking at the join to the main pipe it was caught at the mot centre but hardly made a noise over the rear box (there is a warning here somewhere about fumes etc)
    Hell Couldn't resist trying but hung the turbo on the engine just to get an idea. Which was great apart from it goes through the clutch cable and is about 5 mm from the master cylinder

    One solution leads to more exspense.
    Just bought a mex pedal box which should allow me to use the old (new) master cylinder and go hydraulic clutch just need to buy the release bearing and all those little fittings, all adding up now for a scrap yard approach


    My bling oil return pipe turned up today from the states and the 3/8 NPT fits nicely in the block return so thats another problem off the list and managed and finally welded up the timing wheel for the megasquirt.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    looking good mate!! with all things changing things makes new problems.... ive had loads but you seem to be steaming through it. good work!

    where did you order your fittings from in the states?? were they alot cheaper than over here?

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    I ordered the parts from a company called
    http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com I found there original package on www.ebay.com searching for t3 turbo oil pipe. I then contacted them direct and changed a straight connector for a 45 deg and had a screw in fitting added over the weld in one which they charged a total extra $10 they were really helpful by email. The total came to around 60 including VAT and posty's 4 charge for collecting the money off me.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Looks good mate, wherabouts in Manchester are ya??

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Thanks, I am up narf (sorry North) Manchester, Bury to be more accurate. Had quick look on your posts and are you trying to get a meet going sometime.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Quote Originally Posted by wildo105e View Post
    Thanks, I am up narf (sorry North) Manchester, Bury to be more accurate. Had quick look on your posts and are you trying to get a meet going sometime.
    Not me personally, the lads name is Scouse, the post is called NW Meet, will be next month now if your interested.
    There is also http://www.manchesterclassicfordclub.co.uk/ if your interested as well, there a good set of lads and there's a foto shoot at the Trafford Centre this Sunday for CF mag if your about mate, have a look at the thread on the site although you'll have to join first to view it

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Finally got in the garage to sort out the exhaust that gassed me. I hate exhausts and 3 hours later of grinding fitting welding unfitting fitting ( you know the score) the pipe is on a and working a treat with a jetex compensator joint. I have used these before and work a treat and allow the engine to come in an out without having to keep splittin the pipes, also fitted the boss for the wideband sensor so i may fit the megasquirt aswell and have a very exspensive AFR gauge. This also will allow me to make a downpipe to meet up nicely from the turbo when it finally goes in. The plan is to finally have a stainless one made once i know it works ok. The rest of the time has been sourcing parts so when it all finally goes in it should be fairly quick ????
    Bribed the wife to allow me out today and the git repaid me with spluttering all over the place (not the wife) I think crap has got in the carb that will teach me to have no filter fitted so one will be fitted when the injection goes on . Carb strip down this week
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    looking good m8ty

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Keep the updated coming will be a nice project when finished

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Manifold needs to be shorter to move it away from the clutch cable. Got loads on room on mine and clipper the cable to the inner wing, no burned cable now.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Thanks. I thought about modifying the manifold, as i didn't want to dive into a long drawn out build more a first stage of developement. But the mexico pedal box will just come sooner than later. Avoiding the cost would have been nice but it will make easier under the bonnet.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    The shorter manifold also makes it easier it route the downpipe and keeps it further from the steering column

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Slipping down page two so thought i better update. I have been getting the engine and gearbox ready for change over. This basically means I have gunked them and painted the block. I have been sourcing parts like crazy so when all change it should semi painless I dug out an old RS bellhousing i got from a rally mate which has took a bit of a ding but hey for a tenner what can you say. This will go to my welder mate to see what he can do. I am not bothered about concours repairs but I think it should weld up ok. Once this is done i can get it on the box and get the hydraulic clutch and finish rebuilding my mexico pedal box which needs new bushes etc.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    cracking on mate, good to see! that bellhousing looks like it saw some good action hehe

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    It came out of a mk1 fiesta RWD running a crossflow with a 4 speed straight cut rocket box what a combo. The box is still lying around but can't seem to get him to part just yet.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    awesome, i'd love to rwd my fiesta.... would be so much easier than finding a fwd 1.6 x-flow!!!!! time and money dont permit at the moment tho

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    Aye them 1.6 fwd x-flows are rare as rocking horse sh*t. Might have one sat next to my pile rocking horse sh*t. I have a previous life of fiestas.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    On the second page so motivated myself to give an update. I have spent the time getting bits and bobs and hooning around in the escort .This resulted in coming home last night and trying to gain an inch (as always) I managed to park the car in the pit which is a remainder of the previous garage that was rebuilt when we bought the house 10 years ago. Can't believe i haven't done it sooner Had to lob a rope on the wife's chelsea tractor and popped it out. Is ths dickhead of the week All for some extra room on the drivers side.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Any way. Real stuff i have been busying myself on the pedal box. It was descibed as need a refurb which is does looks like it was fitted to a World War 2 U boat so took it to bits and attacked it with an angle grinder and have now slopped a ton of black smoothite over it. It ain't concours but it's going under the dash anyhow. The clutch pedal is a cable one modified with 4 "tack welds" and the clevis pin would never fit so this will come off and be redone some new bushes from Old ford autos will be thrown in aswell.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    You drove your car into your pit?
    Tit!

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Good job these old fords are built of sterner stuff. There seems no damage to report except a little scraped paint on the chassis rail Looking at whet gets restored on here, it doesn't even count as repair work.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    looking good mate.... except the pit work lol. easy fix tho so onto the next task ay.
    keep it up!

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    I don't know if you got my last cryptic message.
    That very pit has a 1.6 fwd x- flow in it. If you are looking for one .

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Managed to get a couple of hours today and made great progress on sorting out the clutch pedal with a new M/cylinder just needs a spacer to stop the brake pedal sliding up and down the pivot bar and i may weld the centres of the pedals up ready for some alloy pedals i have lying around for years My welder mate has done the bellhousing but missed off the missing bolt hole He is used to MG's which only have 2!!!) so may get that back next week then i will bite the bullet and get the hydraulic clutch ordered.
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    looking good matey! as to the 1.6 unfortunately manchester is a little far, shame as it'd make the daily drive a little more fun!
    keep up the good work!

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    mk1nurburg - No probs it's been there for ever and is going no where soon. I think it needs a rebuild anyway as the pistons seemed seized i think due to dampness.

    Getting close to the point of the big swap over now which means I will have to get my ebay turbo with slight play fully rebuilt ?? as the blades actually touch the housing !! it will be useful for measuring up though

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    cant understand why u moded the clutch pedal when all you had to do was use the pushrod from the mex pedal box ?

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    When the pedal box turned up it had a cable clutch pedal fitted which had been modded but would never had worked. Hopefully i have just made it how it should have been if i had been given the right pedal in the first place. I have now used a clevis pin on the new cylinder as i had one lying around.

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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    dont worry it happen to me at the muffler shop driving on the ramp lucky for me it happen before i was high up so my rear wheels were still on the ground


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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Been a bit slack recently due to work blah blah. Got my bellhousing all nicely welded up by my neighbour who has machined up a new sacer for the timing wheel as i am not happy with the accuracy. I have tried to weld up the centre and drill to match exactly the crank bolt and get it centre i got various results and have not got it any more accurate My mate will take it to work now and stick on one of their dazzling machines and get it right.

    Also managed to get a boost gauge from Paulw in the old school trader cheers mate and also blagged a dump valve on fleabay so nearly all the bits are in stock. UNTIL that is i checked my flywheel with the newly returned bellhousing and it doesn't fit in Both my cast one and alloy bellhousing measure roughly 290mm across this flywheel measures 330mm (it came with the engine but not on it) is my bellhousing right ? What has a flywheel so big ?
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    Re: MK1 turbo pinto

    Transit flywheel. Ok if you want to fit a T5 on a standard pinto block and crank

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