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    Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Knocked this up in my lunch hour today can you test it with your AVO motors and let me know if it works and is correct for your car !

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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    oh and has anyone got any info on decoding the normal Mk1's so i can integrate it
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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    I'll let you know when i get one

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    Ill give it ago tomorrow buddy.

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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Worked for me except the following:

    No date of manufacture (last 2 letters of Vehicle number)

    Says it's Left hand drive

    Otherwise trim colour etc all OK
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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by 2quick4u View Post
    Worked for me except the following:

    No date of manufacture (last 2 letters of Vehicle number)

    Says it's Left hand drive

    Otherwise trim colour etc all OK
    Mark:

    What are the last two letters of you Vehicle Number its working ok for me ?

    LHD error fixed.
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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Any date code ending in a J fixed, and all others checked.
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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Also added some pre 1970 bits.
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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Worked for me

    Vehicle No. Entered = BFATNE
    Version = GT or Mexico.
    Product Source Company = Great Britian - Ford owned plant.
    Assembly Plant = Aveley.
    Body Type = 2 Door Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1598cc Mexico
    Transmission = Manual Transmission - Remote Change (Note: 2000E).
    Axle = 3.77:1
    Colour = Erime OR Diamond White.
    Trim = Black Cloth.
    Date of Manufacturer = December 1973 - Yor Car is NOT tax exempt in the UK

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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Should this be ermine though..?

    Colour = Erime OR Diamond White

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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by styut View Post
    Should this be ermine though..?

    Colour = Erime OR Diamond White
    Yes and it has been ammended, cheers for testing


    Can anyone test any Non AVO cars and let me know the outcome.
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Non avo car

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB42KM
    Version =
    Product Source Company = Great Britian - Ford owned plant.
    Assembly Plant = Halewood.
    Body Type = 2 Door De Luxe Saloon.
    Configuration =
    Engine =
    Transmission =
    Axle =
    Colour =
    Trim =
    Date of Manufacturer = July 1970 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK



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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Vehicle No. Entered = BFATLL
    Version = Twincam, RS1600 or RS2000.
    Product Source Company = Great Britian - Ford owned plant.
    Assembly Plant = Aveley.
    Body Type = 2 Door Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1601cc RS1600
    Transmission = Manual Transmission - Remote Change (Note: 2000E).
    Axle = 3.77:1
    Colour = Ermine OR Diamond White.
    Trim = Black PVC.
    Date of Manufacturer = May 1971 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK

    Last edited by Clint; 21-04-2007 at 21:08.
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    not as de luxe as mine then

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    There is quite a bit of info in the "Haynes Restoration manual" for Escorts and Cortinas.

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    Re: AVO Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by Clint View Post
    Mark:

    What are the last two letters of you Vehicle Number its working ok for me ?

    LHD error fixed.
    PJ

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Roberts View Post
    There is quite a bit of info in the "Haynes Restoration manual" for Escorts and Cortinas.
    Dave can you either take a pic or scan it and pm/email it to me pretty please
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Clint,

    Put in the plate from my 1970 1100 base model.

    Vehicle No. Entered = BA93HG
    Version =
    Product Source Company = Great Britian - Ford owned plant.
    Assembly Plant =
    Body Type =
    Configuration =
    Engine =
    Transmission =
    Axle = English 3.54
    Colour =
    Trim =
    Date of Manufacturer = April 1968 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK

    The numbers/letters across the plate read
    R L A A B965

    I've owned this car for 29 years (bought as standard car) so I'm pretty sure what it came with from the factory (famous last words).

    It was a 1100HC Basic 2-door, rubber mats, no chrome trim, vinyl trim.

    It had a 1100 engine, manual transmission, 3.777:1 diff (yes, I'm absolutely sure of that) and was white (probably Ermine or Diamond White).

    It was registered in July 1970 BUT when Ford still stocked spares it showed up as a late 1969 manufacture. The original engine was the uprated flat head type which I think puts the manufacture date as November/December 1969, anything earlier had different engine details.

    Case you think I'm a polisher, it's been written off several times, had a one-piece flipfront, now Mexico front wings, 1700 X-flow/2000e box/LSD and gets driven to death several times a year at sprints in the SW.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Bernie

    BA93HG
    R L A A B965

    Are you sure about that?
    This should be a 1968 1600HC Cortina MkII and not an Escort. The decode should only work for Escorts, as Cortinas had different coding. So an Axle Code such as your "A" would show up as 3.777:1 Heavy Duty in an Escort and as 3.89:1 in a Cortina.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    This one just redrew the welcome screen - no output. On Firefox if that makes any difference.
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by clem View Post
    Bernie

    BA93HG
    R L A A B965

    Are you sure about that?
    This should be a 1968 1600HC Cortina MkII and not an Escort. The decode should only work for Escorts, as Cortinas had different coding. So an Axle Code such as your "A" would show up as 3.777:1 Heavy Duty in an Escort and as 3.89:1 in a Cortina.

    Cheers
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    Clem,

    S**t, no wonder I kept smackin it into things. I've bin drivin a Cortina all these years.

    I've got an old Haynes with ID details that mine ties up with fairly well so I'll go and scan and post on here. So much for Ford being so organised and easy with their VIN plates.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Ran it again after a PM. Results below.

    Vehicle No. Entered = BA93HG
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Dagenham, England.
    Body Type = Escort, 4 Door De Luxe.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1098cc High Compression.
    Transmission = Manual Transmission.
    Axle = English 3.777:1 heavy Duty.
    Colour = Ermine White.
    Trim =
    Date of Manufacturer = April 1968 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK See Here

    Only thing worrying is the manufacture date, but anything's possible. Reg doc definitely says July 1970, it could have sat rotting anywhere between April 68 and then, but it definitely had the later engine by the time I got it - although I didn't hang onto the 1100 engine for too long.

    It's got a flush fuel filler which I think only came in late 1969.

    Jeez, I've just checked the log book and the VIN number's different. I'll get back to you.

    Looks like you're hitting the right notes now for sure.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Bernie, sorry to be persistent...
    You might be driving an Escort, but your Vehicle number
    BA93HG is:
    B = Britain
    A = Dagenham
    93 = Cortina 4Dr. Deluxe
    H = 1968
    G = April....

    a July 1970 4Door Deluxe Escort would be something like:

    BB5DKM..

    just wondering why the decoder would decode Model 93 as an Escort...

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB42HB
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Halewood, England.
    Body Type = Escort, De Luxe Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1098cc High compression.
    Transmission = Manual Transmission.
    Axle = English 4.125:1 Light Duty.
    Colour = Dragoon Red.
    Trim = De Luxe Saloon trim; Black PVC with black floor covering.
    Date of Manufacturer = January 1968 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK See Here


    '68 1100 Deluxe-bog stock soon to be a twincam rep.


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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by clem View Post
    Bernie, sorry to be persistent...
    You might be driving an Escort, but your Vehicle number
    BA93HG is:
    B = Britain
    A = Dagenham
    93 = Cortina 4Dr. Deluxe
    H = 1968
    G = April....

    a July 1970 4Door Deluxe Escort would be something like:

    BB5DKM..

    just wondering why the decoder would decode Model 93 as an Escort...

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    Clem,

    Dug out the other tag from my box and ran it through your decoder. Results below.

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB40JK
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Halewood, England.
    Body Type = Escort, Standard Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1098cc High compression.
    Transmission = Manual Transmission.
    Axle =
    Colour = Ermine White.
    Trim =
    Date of Manufacturer = October 1969 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK See Here


    This is what I thought it was, and I've got the wrong tag on the car!!! Only detail missing is the diff ratio, mine's definitely got a `J' for this. The vehicle number on the plate that's NOT on the car matches the reg. doc. Only strange thing was when I ONLY entered the VIN number off the reg. doc. last night it came back as a Cortina.

    Reckon this proves what you've done works a treat.

    Attached are pics of the `proper' tag (the one NOT on the car but will be soon) and a page from my Haynes manual explaining the tag. Glad to know I haven't been driving a Cortina all these years.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by bernih View Post
    Reckon this proves what you've done works a treat.
    What CLINT has done!

    @Clint
    As I wrote, I can mail you a few other documents for the Escort.
    Just note, for instance, that before 1970 the UK-models were coded with numbers such as Bernie's Model 40 = Standard Saloon 3-Door, or Model 5D = Deluxe Saoloon 4-Door. From 1970 then they reverted to the later body code such as:
    AT = Escort 2-Door,
    AF = Escort 4-Door
    etc.
    This coding was used for Export Cars right from the beginning (1968), which sometimes confuses people, so you should include both versions in the decoder.

    Cheers
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    @Benie:

    BTW, your Axle code J is a 3.889:1 heavy duty axle.


    Cheers
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by clem View Post
    @Benie:

    BTW, your Axle code J is a 3.889:1 heavy duty axle.


    Cheers
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    Just goes to show. It definitely had a 3.777:1 by the time I got it at nine years old.

    Sorry for any confusion over who did what. No matter, it's a good thing.

    Bernie

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Bernie, dont worry m8 its taough me a very good lesson, I had the Cortina codes but when you said your tag was genuine I changed them, I will make sure I fully investigate the differences first next time.

    Its a good thing we spotted your tag though could have got you in a sticky spot !
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Bernie I have made some ammendments and ran it through again:

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB40JK
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Halewood, England.
    Body Type = Escort, Standard Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1098cc High compression.
    Transmission = Manual Transmission.
    Axle = English 3.899:1 Heavy Duty.
    Colour = Ermine White.
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    I have the trim codes but theres loads of them and havnt had time to include them I will try and do this over the weekend !
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    HAVE DECODED A FRIENDS VIN TAG BUT HIS BODY TAG IS CONFUSING!

    ARTCF RS 1600

    438 SERVICE

    PRIMER


    Has anyone got any ideas?
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    @Darren,
    I would'nt say it's that confusing. It could be an original body tag (they came in quite a few different forms). But it might also be an original replacement shell as it says "SERVICE" and "PRIMER".

    The model code is the correct one for the RS1600:
    ARTCF
    A= Escort
    R = RHD
    T = 2-Door
    C = RS1600
    F = 4-Speed Manual Transmission

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Ive got a mk1 mexico, the shell doesnt have much of its original parts left on it and doesnt have the chassis tag anymore. Is there a way of telling me what trim etc my car should have from the vin no on logbook? I'd like to get a new tag made up.

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    Perky, I think the AVO club can help you.
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Any chance of a Mk2 decoder ?

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    try it with your mk2 tag and report back to me.
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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Quote Originally Posted by dlmjlm View Post
    HAVE DECODED A FRIENDS VIN TAG BUT HIS BODY TAG IS CONFUSING!

    ARTCF RS 1600

    438 SERVICE

    PRIMER


    Has anyone got any ideas?

    Yes defiantly a service shell from Ford, my car was re shelled and had service shell 406, I have seen a few other service shells over the years and they all seem to have 4** numbers.



    Even managed to win an event while still in primer.

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB42GP
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Halewood, England.
    Body Type = Escort, De Luxe Saloon.
    Configuration =
    Engine = 1098cc High compression.
    Transmission =
    Axle = English 3.899:1 Light Duty.
    Colour =
    Trim =
    Date of Manufacturer = December 1967 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK See Here


    Think this makes mine a fairly old example ?

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    Re: Mk1 Escort Chassis Tag Decoder

    Vehicle No. Entered = BB42GP
    Version =
    Assembly Plant = Halewood, England.
    Body Type = Escort, De Luxe Saloon.
    Configuration = Right hand drive.
    Engine = 1098cc High compression.
    Transmission = Manual Transmission.
    Axle = English 4.125:1 Light Duty.
    Colour = Light Green 67.
    Trim = De Luxe Saloon trim; Black PVC with black floor covering.
    Date of Manufacturer = December 1967 - Yor Car is Tax Exempt in the UK See Here


    Paint code CR = Light Green ? this looks to be an original light blue version. ??

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