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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

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    The brake discs and pads. Would "Green Stuff" be OK for fast road?
    In my experience they are shite. Mintex M1144 or ferodo DS2000 are much better.
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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Got off my arse this week as I took a weeks hols that were owed to me.
    Got around to changing the discs, which I've had for about 5 years.............no joke! They were meant to be fitted to my white Cossie, but that shell was too far gone and so bought the blue one a couple of years ago. As you can see the old ones are OLD! and it looks much better with the nice new ones fitted. No idea how much these discs are at today's prices, but I think I paid about 400 for the set. (could be wrong) Bargain as I'm only fitting them today!









    Here's a question...............

    Can anyone see what's wrong with the old discs and the new ones..........and I don't mean the rust!?



    Also fitted my Turbo Timer (and, yes it does work). Was going to buy a blanking plate off eBay and then found one in a spare (hmm hmm) truck at work.........same size, just needed cutting to fit the timer! I think it looks pretty neat, even if I do say so myself! On the left of the timer I'm going to fit an amp clock or maybe an oil one, not sure which yet......................depends if one is going free on TS!



    And another BIG thanks to my lad for helping me fit my new windscreen on Tuesday! Without him I wouldn't have been able to do it.
    Word of advice when changing bonded screens.......................get the pros to do it. I will never, ever do another one again!! Bought all the correct tools and fitting kit, but still took me what felt like a life time to do! The weather was too cold and the bonding wouldn't come out of the tube, even after leaving it in a jug of hot water for an hour!
    And another thing, when bonding gets on your skin it takes an angle grinder to get it off again!
    It's all done now and looks like it's sealed all around! the last thing I have to do is connect the screen heater up and check to see if it actually works when it gets icy

    Need to buy some front and rear pads now as the ones on the car are too bad for use, especially the rears!! nearly metal to metal.


    Back soon with more updates!
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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    yeh your old ones are drilled and your new ones are grooved

    am i right do i get a prize

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Your old were fitted on the wrong side...
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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Some manufacturers say one way, some say the other.

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    could be my eyes, but the new ones look smaller
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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Broadmoor's correct!

    They are meant to be fitted only one way so as to dissipate the heat generated by the brakes! A bit like tyres are made with rotation in mind to remove the water from the tyre in the wet.

    And before anyone says anything, I never fitted the old ones. I bought the shell with them like that!




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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Some manufacturers say one way, some say the other.
    Brembo say one way
    http://www.minimaniauk.co.uk/Article...2055#direction

    EBC say the other
    http://www.ebcbrakes.com/rotorinfo.html

    I don't know which you had or have, and I expect Mr Broadmoor is more knowledgable than me.

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    And another thing, when bonding gets on your skin it takes an angle grinder to get it off again!
    Scouse.
    only just got it off my hands

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    The rotation depends upon the fins inside the 2 contact faces, they will be angled one way or the other to direct air (into? the centre)

    With the rears it doesnt matter which way the grooves run because they are solid disks, one way is quieter and skims the glaze, the other way is louder and skims the glaze more/better/wears pads out quicker!

    If the fins in the fronts are straight and not curved then they can run either way as above too (most decent disks to fit aftermarket universal bells will have curved fins so only run one way such as the brembos daves linked or ap's etc)

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    As DD has said its all about the vents, not the drilling/grooves. We've had this discussion before cause on my 3dr the front grooves faced forward and the rears back.

    See AP Diagram:



    The vents are to allow hot air out so should be facing away from the direction of the rotation (as apposed to trapping fresh air in). If the internal vents are straight then the rotation of the disc is determined by the manufacturer and how they have tested the performace of their product using the drilling/groove.
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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Says all that in the Brembo link

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    nice one dave, mine was from memory, i just got the air in wrong as its out

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Anyway my labels on the discs told me which side to put them on and I don't argue with labels!

    When I go back to the garage I'll check the old discs and see if I might have been wrong.................which has been known in the past!

    The make of disc is Black Diamond by the way.

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Excellent stuff mate Nice to see it coming along

    Was the little dash display to show you the door's open a standard feature then? Very fancy - remember my mate's mum's brand new Honda Accord had one of them in 1980-something ... dead swish

    Out for a drive on a sunny spring day reminds me why I got this car

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Yea thats all standard, it also checks the light bulbs too, but they always pack up and throw spastic moments where the whole thing lights up like a christmas tree

    Any updates scouse?

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    The display is usually called the "Xmas Tree" for obvious reasons, bit I must admit, I've never had a problem on both my Cossies.

    Updates..................

    Off to the garage Saturday to fit the N/S indicator (was burnt in the great fire of 2006 ) and hopefully fit the callipers I am borrowing of Wizard...................thanks Mate!

    Need to fit the heat shield and strut brace, but may well leave that 'till it's on the road as I don't have electric at the garage and I need to drill the struts.

    And I will have to search the scrappies, eBay or here for a scuttle panel cover (the plastic cover that hides the wiper motor).




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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Keep at it mate - it'll be nice to finally see it on the road after this wait

    Out for a drive on a sunny spring day reminds me why I got this car

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Funny. i thought you were an Escort man for some reason
    I'm going to pull your head off because i don't like your head!

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Quote Originally Posted by x-pack View Post
    Funny. i thought you were an Escort man for some reason
    Nope, definately a bin-man!!

    You'll get it if you think about it!





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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Forgot to post these up. Fitted them about 3-4 weeks ago. The old ones were shot, so replaced them with new. And they work so much better





    Also fitted a new set of pads. So all the rear brakes are brand new


    Had a good day at the lock-up today. Just a case of trying to get the last few bits finished................and there seems to be plenty of them

    Sorted the over-heating out too. Did wire in a seperate fan switch inside the dash, just as a precaution, and it seems to work fine. Still not got around to fitting a rad switch as I know the one that's in doesn't work. Not too sure if I will as the one I fitted works fine.

    Also put the scuttle panel, bonnet and side indicators back in/ on.

    Did have two small scares today whilst at the lock-up.........

    1. The engine wouldn't start, but turned over!

    After about half an hour fault finding found the problem..............fuel shut off switch under spare tyre! No idea how that happened (low battery voltage, maybe?)

    2. Turned the engine of whilst I tidied around and then it wouldn't start again!!

    Checked switch under spare tyre...............nope. Getting fuel, but no spark

    Eventually, after much swearing under my breath and testing the electrics to the starter I found it was the immobiliser on the alarm!!
    At least it works if nothing else!






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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Good news mate now get it to the mot station and get some miles on that engine

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousdave View Post
    Good news mate now get it to the mot station and get some miles on that engine
    He's too scared to put miles on it.

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    merp0,

    you aint wrong there, Mate.

    Gave it a bit of a wheelspin out of the garage And I nearly s*** myself!

    Going back Monday (have kids on Sunday) to refit the heatshield and then go around car checking lights, fluids etc for possibly an MoT date!!







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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Good luck with the MOT, I'm sure you won't need it though

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    nice one Scouse

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Still haven't sorted the rad fans yet...............no idea why they don't work when the engine gets hot, so for now I have left the manual fan switch connected.

    Changed the wheels over from a set I bought when I had my white Cossie.

    See what you think..................it seems like the car isn't low enough, but that's just because it hasn't rolled yet (if you know what I mean).





    I think most of the car is done now and it's time to book it in for it's MoT *gulp!* All the other things like headlining can be done outside the house and I still have to fit the front strut brace (no electric at the lock-up) so that needs doing at the house too.

    The paint on the car looks terrible worse in the "flesh" than it does in the pics, but I have the money to have it painted, just need it MoT'd before I can get it to where it's being done.







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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Looks good m8 dont lower it to much you will fuck the handling up

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Retro,

    It's already been lowered mate, it looks higher than normal as I had the car up in the air changing the wheels and the suspension hasn't settled down yet. I think it will drop about another 1" or so.



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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    good work dare scally

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    You bringing it to cf show? we can park are jelly moulds together are you camping? could convoy down the m6

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    CF show...............oh, yes!! But if PIG's going I doubt it, he leads me astray!!



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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Gettin there mate

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Spent about 6 hours looking for the electric problem on the Cossie on Saturday (and I 'd been to work since 3am ) I was totally shattered, but the weather was great and thought I'd get it done.

    The problem was that the wipers would go half way up the screen and then stop!
    The fog light on drivers side never worked (fitted new bulb)
    The headlight wipers never worked and the headlight washer motor didn't either.



    Anyway, got the Haynes out and read the wiring diagrams. I'm not too bad at reading schematics and understanding them, but I'm no expert.

    Changed a few of the relays, with ones that I knew were good, in the fuse box and then tried again. Still had problems with all the above
    Took the h/light motors apart and found one of them had seized, so removed it completely. Did the same with the other one and re-greased it, put it all back together and still no joy. I wired it up straight to the battery and it worked fine...............

    H/light motor was a pain too, so I swapped the connection from the windscreen motor to the h/light motor to see if it was the motor..............nope, worked fine

    I'd been testing connections with a multimeter for hours and it was becoming a nightmare!!

    So eventually I put a wire straight form the +ve side of the battery and "jumped" the various components to see if they were getting power and still non of them worked!!

    Some of the components like headlight wipers only work with main beam and then using the washers...the power they get comes from the wiper stalk inside the car...........really difficult to see the meter reading whilst pressing the washers at the same time!

    Anyway did the whole procedure again, but this time connect the "jumper" to the -ve on the battery.................................

    It was a bad earth causing all my problems!!! Only problem now was finding it. That's when I looked into the Haynes again.

    Found a common earth for all the different components..............just behind the headlight. Removed the bolt, re-did the end connections and then bolted them all back the the car. And it worked!!


    All I have to do now is put the car back together at the moment, it's got no fog lights in or headlights, headlight washer motors and the windscreen wiper arms are off too.


    Only have one problem left now and that's the ABS light is staying on all the time!!

    Had this last time it went off the road, so think it may be because it's been standing for a while.



    Nearly there now........................gotta make CF Show!!




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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    so whens the MOT she must be ready now after all that

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Either next week or the 1st week in May!!




    You going down on Saturday?




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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Wish i could work calls, car`nt knock work back



    anyway need more money to finish me never ending project

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Looking good mate Nice to hear it's coming out to play soon

    You still after a headlining? If so, let me know the details and I'll enquire with a fella I bumped into recently - may be able to help, maybe not, but can't hurt to ask.

    Out for a drive on a sunny spring day reminds me why I got this car

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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Had my strut painted last week by a guy I do a bin for. Took him nearly 5 weeks to actually do it (was free, so couldn't moan!).

    It was originally black and the strut plates had about 8 holes in each!! So I had all the holes welded up, re-drilled and polished off. Painted with a Ford red 2Pac (guy can't remember what the exact colour was, but defo a new model Ford red)









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    Re: Crystal Blue make-over

    Is it any nearer seeing the road then Scouse?
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