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    Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    How much weight can be saved in a Mk1 by replacing all that can be replaced with available fibre glass panels?
    Doors, front Guards, Bonnet, Boot, front and rear bumpers and side and rear glass with perspex.
    Hs anyone done it all and can say it saved 50, 75 or 100Kgs?

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Anyone got experience with this?

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    how about the difference between individual panels. like fibre bonnet vs steel?
    surely someone has used and measured the differences.

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Ok ill try this way
    Fibre bonnet approximately 6Kg's
    Fibre boot 4.6 kg's
    doors approx 8kg's
    front arches ?

    Does anyone know the weight of the original steel parts?

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    why dont you weigh them?

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    Car is 12000 miles away at the moment! Literally other side of the planet.
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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Quote Originally Posted by jpblue View Post
    Ok ill try this way
    Fibre bonnet approximately 6Kg's
    Fibre boot 4.6 kg's
    doors approx 8kg's
    front arches ?

    Does anyone know the weight of the original steel parts?
    Hey here are the weights of mine that I've just quickly taken for you.

    Bonnet (with stay and Ford letters)! = 14kg
    Bare door = 13kg
    Full door (with glass, winder and lock mechanisms) = 20kg
    Genuine Ford AVO style guard = 4kg

    I can weigh the boot on the weekend for you unless someonebeats me to it

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Good man thanks pikey15
    Very helpfull.
    Cheers

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Quote Originally Posted by jpblue View Post
    Ok ill try this way
    Fibre bonnet approximately 6Kg's
    Fibre boot 4.6 kg's
    doors approx 8kg's
    front arches ?

    Does anyone know the weight of the original steel parts?
    Apologies for the delay, I've weighed my boot lid and it's approximately 9kg, hope this helps

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Wow!! thats a lot of weight saving, especially if you use fibreglass wings, perspex windows etc.

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    So it looks like fibre is roughly 50% the Weight of steel.
    Savings of circa 30kg,s on panels, and at a guess another 20 with lexan.
    Big investment for 30-50 kg,s
    Thanks guys
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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    5-7% better power to weight ratio for around 500,cheaper than engine mods to give you the same

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Could always go the whole hog?........... not cheap but probably weighs 25 - 30% of a regular + independent chassis, so trick ltwt. suspenders and driveline - BONUS LOL!
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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    If you are looking to put in fibreglass doors, in my opinion I would add a full cage with door bars (negating some if not all of the weight saving), would not like to get t boned by a Chelsea tractor without them.
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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    a roll cage will add back in about 40kgs

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Fibreglass doors aren't Road legal anyway

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Thanks guys,
    Car is very much caged and I'm not interested in road legal as its a race only car.
    Where would I get all the panels for sub 500 pounds?

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Fibreglass doors aren't Road legal anyway
    ???? why not? what about TVR, Lotus and a million kit cars they have grp doors

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Graham,

    Whilst I'm not familiar with U.K. rules, which are far, far more lenient than we have here in Oz, they are not legal for a number of reasons, and without going into the Australian Design Rules, the main reason is that they do not have anti-intrusion qualities of standard doors.

    Regardless, it's a race car and the majority of Js car would not pass legislation here anyway.

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Because the only ones you'll find for sale are are not certified for road use, so you would need to make them yourself.

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Because the only ones you'll find for sale are are not certified for road use, so you would need to make them yourself.
    on the basis that theres almost nothing for sale which is certified for road use, its more likely just the manufacturers of the doors ensuring they dont end up in court if theres a injury as a result of an RTA in a car they are fitted to

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Not so sure about that, most parts related to safety carry pretty stringent QA, BS5750 and ISO checks, wouldn't really touch anything that hasn't

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Not so sure about that, most parts related to safety carry pretty stringent QA, BS5750 and ISO checks, wouldn't really touch anything that hasn't
    maybe you wouldnt but the motor trade and internet is awash with cheap crap, or counterfit stuff so you cant always tell. its a well known fact that one of the biggest motor factor that both re imports substandard parts intended for the 3rd world and reboxes cheap shit into brand name boxes

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    I'm sure

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    Re: Mk1 escort weight savings with fibre and perspex

    So where is best to buy fibre panels that fit?
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