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    cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Hi folks,

    odd question - i want to gain more rear ground clearance while keeping the softer leafs, 146 are way to stiff for the lanes - can i get my soft single leaf springs decambered the oposite way to raise the rear ride height?
    cheers!

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Initial thought is yeah why not although you are adding more 'camber' not de-cambering them. But one problem may be the rear spring hanger
    becoming more horizontal than vertical as designed due to eye - eye distance shortening due to greater curve. The more horizontal the hanger becomes
    the more ride ht. you lose. Probably be better to buy 118lb multi leaf springs at +1 or +2" ride height?

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Quote Originally Posted by katana View Post
    Initial thought is yeah why not although you are adding more 'camber' not de-cambering them. But one problem may be the rear spring hanger
    becoming more horizontal than vertical as designed due to eye - eye distance shortening due to greater curve. The more horizontal the hanger becomes
    the more ride ht. you lose. Probably be better to buy 118lb multi leaf springs at +1 or +2" ride height?
    can i buy them?! If so thats ideal! the only reason i was asking was becuase i didnt think there was such a thing!

    i know what you mean regarding the hanger, it might ruin the swing - or would it? if i could buy new soft springs with +1" height it would be perfect

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Just had a look and they are tricky to find! Info from The Rally Prep. Manual - CD8 is 115lbs and apparently +1" - see attached
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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    yeah i have the book, i just assumed all the CD* springs were looong gone out of production stock? im surprised no-one is making them, why would burton any everyone else stock 146lb when they're useless on anything but a race car ? id say mine have sagged a fair bit too and i normally carry two spare wheels, a new-ish standard set would probably do me as good

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    What dampers are you using, i use 146's on the road with Bilsteins and find them soft

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    same setup for me, 146lbs also with bilsteins, use in demo events, no issue, not too hard,
    but I've seen that bilsteins GP1 exists in different rate.

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    bilsteins also, the old style upside down ones (piston attaches to the spring plate, damper body goes to the car)
    i've honestly never tried them, but ive heard and read alot of reports (on here) about them being way to hard for loose surfaces and they cause excessive oversteer, skipping across the surface of hard gravel or bumpy concrete etc.
    road car i'd be much more inclined to try, but i need good grip on gravel/grass etc which ive been told 146's dont give! ?

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Ah ok, when you said lanes i thought you meant tarmac

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Both 116lb and 146lb genuine Ford GP1 springs would be ideal to use as neither are too stiff, however their supply will have long dried up.

    The problem now with all the after market springs that are available that no two suppliers are making the same poundage springs despite them saying that they are. How many of us have ever bothered to check.

    I bought a pair of Multi leaf 146lb ones from RACE. The springs have so much camber that the car is sitting like a Cart off one of the Western films.

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Didn't they back in the 70's produce longer rear spring shackles for exactly this reason? Seem to remember seeing them with different holes so the car could be raised to adjustable heights... But then you also saw people hanging red lights under the car to show off their shiny diff

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    cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duffer View Post
    ... But then you also saw people hanging red lights under the car to show off their shiny diff
    Thatís some memory I just about remember that along with extra wired in brake lights in the back window 😄

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    Re: cambering leaf springs the oposite way?

    hmmm seems there is no easy solution for this - which is extremely surprising. so what were saying is no one remakes anything under 146lb for escorts?

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