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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by rs_brammer View Post
    Just a bit of advice, i'm replacing the spring in my pump and just wan to see what is the most effective way of removing the current plug from the pump?

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    see 1st post of the thread!

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    What he said ^
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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    you will need to drill a small hole in the block on the crossflow engine to feed a little more oil to the cam dizzy / oil pump drive to prevent wearing of drive on cam which causes lots of lash in your dizzy eratic timing

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Sorry I missed much of the last replies,

    RWD I can see the lip.
    Trust me I've done 4 pumps like this (Ford pumps) and just about everone that I know that races pinto's here does it.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Turn the cap down or mill up a thinner one to sit in , thus stiing further down the body.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVader View Post
    Sorry I missed much of the last replies,

    RWD I can see the lip.
    Trust me I've done 4 pumps like this (Ford pumps) and just about everone that I know that races pinto's here does it.
    its probably a case of in SA although still ford the engines had pumps from different suppliers which were made slightly differently

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Could well be,
    I just did a pump for my motor last week, I have a spare that has some bad wear on it, I might just cut it open and have a look inside.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Hi mates, it's me again, now with a query about oil pressure on my 2 ltr Pinto engine. Despite I'm going to do to my std oil pump all what RWD ford rules described, thank you, I have experienced today this situation:

    I started up the engine with the std pump and I obtained 45 psi at 2000 rpm and 80º C., which is correct. Now I changed the oil pump for a hi pressure one - Kent manufactured - and my new pump gave me 45 psi at idle and 80 psi + at 2000 rpm, temp always 80º C. Isn't that too much ?
    I'm worried about what will happen when my engine will be at 6000 - 7000 rpm.

    Can anybody give me a little of his expertness about this matter ?

    Wait your kind advices.

    Cheers,

    Eduardo
    Last edited by ebenech; 21-10-2011 at 17:27.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    i'd see if the pressure goes higher still with more revs it may not, if it doesnt dont worry

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Sounds like you fitted a high volume high pressure pump? some of the pumps have very strong pressure relief valve springs, if the oil pressure goes over 100psi cold it will have to be looked at, don't worry about 95 to 100psi max cold with thick 20w50 oil it won't hurt the engine, you only need about 60psi hot oil pressure for any pinto engine, race, rally, drag, turbo whatever
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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Ok Graham, thanks for your kind reply. I assume then that 80 psi is Okay, isn't it ?

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    yes i'd say 80's ok, i'd be starting to worry at over 100

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Thanks you too RWD ford rules for your kind advice. The pump I purchased is marked as high pressured only, not high volume also; I purchased it to Rally Design and they offer both types, and for the price I paid it should be high pressure only. About oil, I'm using full synthetic 5W40, so that's why I'm surprised about the high figures I'm obtaining in the manometer. By the way, the std oil pump I took away from the engine, is going to be fully transformed according to your tutorial at the beginning of this thread, thank you.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Svein View Post
    Burton xflow uprating kit from the Good Old Days
    Hmm...what is that cap on the left for?

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    It looks like the end cap to hold in the spring, the other one looks like an oil pump to block locating dowel on the right
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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Yep.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    The Mellings M68CHV seems the right one for our pinto,s ! Am i right ?

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Ported as instructed rotor height to the pump body clearanced to .001 end plate surfaced and 3.2 mm shim under the spring. Should sealer be used under the pump end plate on reassembly?

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    NO defiantly no sealer

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Miller View Post
    Yeah but ..................

    it could be done I don't like it, looks not too reliable, but hey...


    You'd be best to get the US style pumps with the center pin support, real hi volume and leave the alloy bodies for recycling

    Very old, but what oil pump could this have been? Standard Ford engine or uprated part? Would be the most perfect Pinto oil pump

    Pictures did not came over but visual in the first page of this topic

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Do you mean the Melling M86B? Still available at Rockauto, bought two some month ago .

    https://www.rockauto.com/de/parts/me...,oil+pump,5564
    Last edited by Willi; 29-12-2023 at 20:21.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyno View Post
    Very old, but what oil pump could this have been? Standard Ford engine or uprated part? Would be the most perfect Pinto oil pump

    Pictures did not came over but visual in the first page of this topic
    its a melling M86b oil pump, a bog standard replacement oil pump. to be honest its all a pinto needs. For oil pumps i usually search out origonal NOS ford pumps but they are getting hard to find.

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    The big pump with double bearing, larger rotors is not Melling M86b. The left on, small rotor is. I also use Malling M86b and is the same size as the standard Ford pump but cast iron. It better as standard but the on on the right should be perfect, large rotors end double bearings

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    Re: How to increase your oil pressure

    Oh right, you're absolutely right, you can actually see an HV pump in Roger Miller's picture. Did an M86BHV ever actually exist?

    I always use M87HV on my Cologne V6 engines, the pumps are very similar to the HV pump in the picture, larger rotor then stock and double bearing. Highly recommended for the early Cologne V6 in my opinion.

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