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    electronic power steering

    Hi guys ..thinking about the steering...i want to use electric assisted steering...

    What systems are we using now days ..isee a lot of vauxhall cars have them...

    Corsa c ..seems very available....

    Any advice appreciated ,,..cheers mark

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Corsa is what most are using. Google mk2 mania.
    They do a kit

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    Re: electronic power steering

    I think Madragon would be better off making his own power steering kit judging by his high standard of work on the Pinto injection system he has made. The problem with the PS kits that you buy off the shelf is the steering wheel still comes out through the floor at an angle, the same as the std column.

    I was thinking of making one with an extra UJ in so the steering wheel would be straight when viewed from the drivers seat, more like a modern car instead of on the piss like uncle Henry designed it. To do that the pedals might have to be re positioned.

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    Re: electronic power steering

    I modified a mk2 mania version to straighten my steering wheel by scalloping a bit out of the clutch pedal and moving the hole through the floor/bulkhead

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Hey Mate, Ive got a how to on how I did it

    PM me your email address and I'll send it to you

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    Re: electronic power steering

    I have heard the Squires brothers (Race Rally and Competition equipment) make the best quality kit using the Corsa motor, but im not sure where the quality come from??? But would be interested in other opinions.
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    Re: electronic power steering

    If you can weld, then there is no reason whatsoever you can't make your own at a fraction of the cost. Did mine for £85

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt75 View Post
    Hey Mate, Ive got a how to on how I did it

    PM me your email address and I'll send it to you

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    Thanks mate done...cheers mark..

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by madragon199 View Post
    Thanks mate done...cheers mark..
    Email sent, let me know if you have any qn's

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest_rallying View Post
    I think Madragon would be better off making his own power steering kit judging by his high standard of work on the Pinto injection system he has made. The problem with the PS kits that you buy off the shelf is the steering wheel still comes out through the floor at an angle, the same as the std column.

    I was thinking of making one with an extra UJ in so the steering wheel would be straight when viewed from the drivers seat, more like a modern car instead of on the piss like uncle Henry designed it. To do that the pedals might have to be re positioned.
    The fitting of the steering and the design are not a big issue...as you suggest i will make it...but what im concerned about is the controll system...i read that they have a torque biasing controll that gets its signalls from the ecu...which gets its signals from a speed sensor...or abs system...the problem is i dont have any of these....i see you can buy a speed control box on flee bay..that trick the system into working..but have heard that at high speed its unstable...but this is all theory as ive never done one....cheers mark

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    Re: electronic power steering

    I have raced with mine using the cheap ebay controller (basically a potentiometer) with no issues at all

    Worse case it stops working and the steering becomes unassisted which is not a lot more than standard anyway

    There are more expensive controllers that can be set up in 3 stages of assist based on wheel speed. I.e. the faster the less assist -

    http://easysteer.co.uk/

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt75 View Post
    I have raced with mine using the cheap ebay controller (basically a potentiometer) with no issues at all

    Worse case it stops working and the steering becomes unassisted which is not a lot more than standard anyway

    There are more expensive controllers that can be set up in 3 stages of assist based on wheel speed. I.e. the faster the less assist -

    http://easysteer.co.uk/

    Cheers

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    Thanks matt...i have only read..no real life on the speed senser.......great info in the email....which corsa did you use "b" or "c"...cheers mark

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Hey Mate, I used the C as I have read they had issues with the B

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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt75 View Post
    Hey Mate, I used the C as I have read they had issues with the B

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    Thanks matt.....ive had a message from james...ive forwarded it on to you...cheers mark

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    Re: electronic power steering

    I'v emailed him

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    Re: electronic power steering

    PM for details sent also.
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    Re: electronic power steering

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest_rallying View Post
    I think Madragon would be better off making his own power steering kit judging by his high standard of work on the Pinto injection system he has made. The problem with the PS kits that you buy off the shelf is the steering wheel still comes out through the floor at an angle, the same as the std column.

    I was thinking of making one with an extra UJ in so the steering wheel would be straight when viewed from the drivers seat, more like a modern car instead of on the piss like uncle Henry designed it. To do that the pedals might have to be re positioned.
    You can do this quite simply if you use the entire Corsa B column, including the bottom UJ.

    I got rid of the entire mk1 column on mine and had to fabricate a bracket to hold the column to the dash and pedal box, but by doing so and using both the top and bottom UJ on the corsa lower column I was able to angle the wheel to be a bit more normal.

    I didn't move the column bush in the firewall, but cut the lower shaft down so that it only comes through 4 or 5 inches, it then both clamps and bolts on to the Corsa UJ, exactly as it does in the Corsa itself.

    Of course I also got the benefit of using a Corsa ignition barrel and switchgear. Purists may not consider that a plus point.

    I suspect that if you use the full Corsa C column you could probably even retain the tilt part if you were willing to replace the Escort upper, like I did with the B column.

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