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    New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Nice one :-) got the dollar for 2 sets of quarters when they come :-)

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    sent him a text last week but not heard back yet .

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    Bugger :-( is that a good sign or bad ? Lol

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Voted on MK1 Shells as a first option.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    where can i get the new front wings that have allready been produced?

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    Try TJ Motorsport one of the sponsors
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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Any update on production of escort shells etc

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Is this happening anywhere??

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Did anyone else notice in this months Classic Classic Ford mag that Magnum are now selling new mk1 quarter panels?

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Magnum will soon be selling front chassis rails too, been waiting aaaaages but when i phoned up yesterday they reckon approx 4 weeks

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    They even making panels that are not really in high demand... can only mean heading towards enough panels for whole shells...probably!

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by para144 View Post
    Did anyone else notice in this months Classic Classic Ford mag that Magnum are now selling new mk1 quarter panels?
    I'll be buying a pair out of the first batch made they will still be hot when i get them :P

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    I'll be buying a pair out of the first batch made they will still be hot when i get them :P
    Good stuff mate Im keeping an eye from afar to see when your mk1 Is going to push forward

    I cant see full shells being made myself though Just too many panels to produce that would be specific to new shells to warrant It IMO...Inner quarters etc etc? You never know though?

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    Good stuff mate Im keeping an eye from afar to see when your mk1 Is going to push forward

    I cant see full shells being made myself though Just too many panels to produce that would be specific to new shells to warrant It IMO...Inner quarters etc etc? You never know though?
    I was told thT it should of happened 6 months ago but that seams to be way off. One thing i do know is the roof will be sold after the shells as that eill be the key bit of kit to finish th car and they wouldn't eant other people making thier own first would they.

    The push with the mk1 is ment to be starting at the begining of august but it is looking doubtful yet again! I think i will just build up another baby with a 4.6 in so i can do local track events......fast. The mk2 will have a sequential by the time the mk1 is even finished the fab work. I can see it being the most mental 4 door in s. Wales

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    I was told thT it should of happened 6 months ago but that seams to be way off. One thing i do know is the roof will be sold after the shells as that eill be the key bit of kit to finish th car and they wouldn't eant other people making thier own first would they.

    The push with the mk1 is ment to be starting at the begining of august but it is looking doubtful yet again! I think i will just build up another baby with a 4.6 in so i can do local track events......fast. The mk2 will have a sequential by the time the mk1 is even finished the fab work. I can see it being the most mental 4 door in s. Wales
    Good test bed for the mk1 though

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    I was down rally design the other week and had a look at the full mk1 floor they have and they are spot on perfect, absolute thing of beauty. I want a car with a rotted floor now just to fit one!

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    With fully assembled floors, inner wings with towers and front panel assemblies available you can only be left with the fact that they plan to build full shells. Why else would they be making all the bit as well as assembly jigs to weld them all together in house?

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

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    New Shells may be here pretty soon

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    If this is the final product, better not be here if it is. Please look at the waist line at the door and the also the rear quarter. Both are totally very poor. The rear quarter 's top section near to the window opening, that area looks very bad. So far, way far away from a quality production in my opinion.

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    New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Seem to remember the new mg shells improved with age tho

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    the thing is no one is going to use one to re shell an origonal rs etc to try make a concours car,

    but for a rally car which is going to be cut about to 6 linked, arch and god knows what else. Then get throw at all sorts of things, it more important to start with something strong and rust free than anything else

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    So not a hoax and fair play to you. As regards quality - be fair these aren't the original pressing die's so will always need a bit of finessing - I think the MG's are using the original die's so are potentially much closer to original. As Graham says for a comp. car they've gotta be a good basis and will avoid taking original cars to be converted - and potentially be destroyed! Even the original Ford cars had some moody panel gaps and body lines sometimes so not all bad LOL.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by katana View Post
    So not a hoax and fair play to you. As regards quality - be fair these aren't the original pressing die's so will always need a bit of finessing - I think the MG's are using the original die's so are potentially much closer to original. As Graham says for a comp. car they've gotta be a good basis and will avoid taking original cars to be converted - and potentially be destroyed! Even the original Ford cars had some moody panel gaps and body lines sometimes so not all bad LOL.
    I still haven't seen any proof ? Just the same pics in 5 different places :o

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    You would think the photographer took a photograph of the best side of the car - makes me wonder about how bad the other side looks!
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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    katana is correct, mgs were done using the origonal tooling, which must of helped quailty wise

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    OK, it aint perfect. But jeeze, what an effort! They can surely only get better and this is apparently only the first sample.

    For the rally boys, this will be perfect.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    At this rate they will be like the super cars , in kit form

    before you know it , they will they be available in Argos , page 555

    will these new shells affect prices on the real deal ?

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    I think genuine shells will always fetch more money like if you were buying a reshelled Rs against a genuine one there will always be a price difference bit like having a copy of a work of art painting looks just as good but not as good the real thing you would be happy looking at it pleasing to the eye but you would always know its not the real deal but happy it looks the same but did not cost as much !

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    I am glad they will be made as they were supposed to be an affordable car but the prices for cars and parts over the last 5 years have gone mad leaving them out of reach for a lot of people.

    I own a genuine one and didn't buy it to make money but to enjoy it so it will be good to see shells available and hopefully more on the road rather than tucked away as investments

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    First and foremost you all need to give the guy a round off applause I'm sure they aren't going to be perfect repos and I'm sure with time if the ball gets rolling things will get changed and altered as they go on , but just think how much time and effect has gone in to this let alone money I carnt see a few shells making a blind bit of difference to the price especially when you factor in how much they are going to cost has it done any damage to mini, mg prices etc no every thing goes up over time , so I think a round of applause should be given good on you fella this is a massive undertaking hats of to ya and good luck

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    spot on
    the hardest part has been done,shell no.1 has landed things will evolve from now and any problems ironed out,just like when the first mex wings got made.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Fairplay to all involved. I love the way it is just sat on the ground like a dumped shell you'd see on an industrial estate!

    It will be interesting to see some built up cars using these shells. And as has been said before, panel gaps and general tolerances were dubious out of the factory.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    So with these new shells, potentially becoming available, what is the cost of a new mk2 shell in todays money? anyone have any idea. I can see in the first post 5k was mentioned but that was years ago.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Well, I think I have found the building in question...

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...850398696.html

    Scroll down and you can see the distinctive building at the rear.

    Too be honest, I think it just a good shell exported to China to be unstitched and then the panels copied one by one.

    If it is true, I am sure that there is a large demand for the items such as :- Boot, Door frames, C Pillar repair panels, Rear scuttle, RHD dashboard + lots of brackets etc which I expect to hit the market first? Look at the excitement for the up and coming front scuttle grill..

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    Hmmm the link did not want to work properly

    try this instead

    http://www.suyangauto.com/
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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Problem is it would have to be a Q-plate, next problem is getting them into the country without them being seized as counterfit as Ford defo wouldn't have permitted them to produce these under license, that being said, if they are goo quality and I can pay on delivery i'll take 2, suddenly all the log books start getting snapped up and these are being sold off as genuine Ford cars, not good....although it will probably push up the value on the real cars.
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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Q plates dont exist any more, my understanding is dvla will issue a previously un-issued age related plate where actual age of the whole vehicle is uncertain.

    as for licence surely mk2s are now old enough that making shells is no different to making any other repro part? all ford are actually interested in is selling the latest focus or whatever, the only time there heritage seem of interest is the occasional advert, if they were actually at all concerned about there heritage they would be supplying stuff to help keep the olduns on the raod

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Q plates dont exist any more, my understanding is dvla will issue a previously un-issued age related plate where actual age of the whole vehicle is uncertain.

    as for licence surely mk2s are now old enough that making shells is no different to making any other repro part? all ford are actually interested in is selling the latest focus or whatever, the only time there heritage seem of interest is the occasional advert, if they were actually at all concerned about there heritage they would be supplying stuff to help keep the olduns on the raod
    Yeah licensing is a huge issue, its not a problem if you are using a silhouette type but an exact copy flags up all sorts of counterfeit legalities. Anything that attempts to directly replicate a huge brands products gets jumped on, customs would be an issue.

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    Re: New shells,, yes or no??? Mk1 and mk2

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Q plates dont exist any more, my understanding is dvla will issue a previously un-issued age related plate where actual age of the whole vehicle is uncertain.

    as for licence surely mk2s are now old enough that making shells is no different to making any other repro part? all ford are actually interested in is selling the latest focus or whatever, the only time there heritage seem of interest is the occasional advert, if they were actually at all concerned about there heritage they would be supplying stuff to help keep the olduns on the raod
    The manufacturing volumes are too low for us Escort enthusiasts to warrant Ford thinkning about it.

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