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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    just been having a read, as i have followed a similar route, although i have had to retain the standard air/fuel induction. at the moment, i am running the vvt with the shift light, but am in the process of getting it done corectly. have to say with the vvt off the engine is totally flat, but with it wired in, coming in at around 2.7k, it comes alive! approx 95bhp@3k, 169bhp@5k upto 6.7k ish. without it, i drop right down to 125ish bhp. took a while to realise why things werent working, but soon realised it was the way is wired it! i assumed the shift light was giving me a positive switch, turned out to be a neg switch! have put the vernier on ex cam, hoping to get 190 ish with it working right. funny how some have success and others dont. if i could put a set of t/b's on it, well, id be well away!

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    btw, top job on the engine bay renovation! very smart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyn-car-gwyn View Post
    btw, top job on the engine bay renovation! very smart!
    Cheers mate and well done for making the vvt work

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    finally got it in and running,, with new suspension and interior,, also nearly ready for log bookin,, ignore all the wax oil

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    Well done, not long before you can give it a damned good thrashing do you have anymore pics of the Tony Law manifold

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    i call it built for use and abuse



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    Had the MK1 on the rollers today at CPL Racing Fast Ford were there and will be doing a feature soon.

    The results from the power runs were not quite as expected 167bhp with 171lb of torque, the low bhp figure was a surprise as the torque figure was high for the st engine I can only think there is a cam timing problem, possibly to much advance.
    Next step is a visit to the rolling road to have the map sorted, still running at a safe 27 degrees ignition advance so there is more power to come fingers crossed.

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    Just had my ST170 head flowed by Andrew at A L Developments should be all built back up at the weekend, hopefully should give the power increase I am after, fingers crossed.

    Spec so far,

    VVT delete catcams and verniers

    Flowed Head

    45 Jenveys with flowed inlet

    Omex 600

    Custom 4 2 1 Exhaust by Zero

    This is far as I will take the ST engine if the power is not there engine number 3 next year?

    The pictures don't do justice to Andrews work on the ports







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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Looking good bud not seen this one for a while

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Quote Originally Posted by eric View Post

    This is far as I will take the ST engine if the power is not there engine number 3 next year?
    Looking very good.

    I hope it doesn't come to that and you can get the power that you wanted, but what engine will you go for if it doesn't?

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    Looking good bud not seen this one for a while
    Still working on and off on the escort, built a new Tran-x diff using 45/90 ramp angles as recommended by Tran-x for track use, just had the head sorted just some new brakes to sort out.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    not read all the thread but a guy down at our sprint club has a very nice sorted one ,goes like fook and sounds close to a BDA of full chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikey15 View Post
    Looking very good.

    I hope it doesn't come to that and you can get the power that you wanted, but what engine will you go for if it doesn't?
    Possibly a Duratec makes good power with good reliability

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    all looking nice eric , maybe you need to get it mapped up on a RR to get the best from it ! are you going to ford fair next month ?
    Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6gerry View Post
    all looking nice eric , maybe you need to get it mapped up on a RR to get the best from it ! are you going to ford fair next month ?
    Gerry
    As this is the last of the engine mods it will now be mapped properly hopefully over 200bhp now.
    Not a ford Fair this year can't get the time off.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    If you are thinking of duratec bud I take you out in mine at some point

    maybe you should put your name down for my track day

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    Quote Originally Posted by trig View Post
    If you are thinking of duratec bud I take you out in mine at some point

    maybe you should put your name down for my track day
    I will like to take you up on that if I do go to a duratec engine, seen your latest post on your progress with your MK1 coming on really well keep it up Trig, it's quite a drive to your neck of the woods if only it was a bit closer

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Where a bouts are you then buddy?

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    Where a bouts are you then buddy?
    Near Sandwich Kent

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    It's all back up and running, 20 minutes of panic as it would only run on cylinders 2 and 3 a faulty coil pack was to blame, strange that the coil pack failed as it was working fine with no miss-firing before the head was removed

    Next step brakes and a properly mapped not sure who to use yet.

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    Saw this yesterday @ lydden. Beautiful car and makes me want another one.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Nice bay that and top car

    1 question if you dont mind me asking ,what alternator have you used ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve L View Post
    Nice bay that and top car

    1 question if you dont mind me asking ,what alternator have you used ?
    It from a Sierra http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALTERNATOR...item1c288c6847

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Thanks for that ,Been searching all day on here




    P.s what bracket have you used?
    Last edited by Steve; 11-10-2012 at 19:42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve L View Post
    Thanks for that ,Been searching all day on here




    P.s what bracket have you used?
    No problem, need to check the alternator is definitely the right one as there are some slight variations i am 99% sure it is the one I use. The mounts are from http://www.raceline.co.uk/products/p...8&CategoryID=2 the bottom mount is rubber mounted so the alternator doesn't get shaken to bits, the top adjuster is not that tough as it broke in two last time out at Lydden.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Oops ,Might be best if i use 6mm steel if they snap like that

    Cheers for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve L View Post
    Oops ,Might be best if i use 6mm steel if they snap like that

    Cheers for the info
    This is being replaced with a much improved version, should be with me soon


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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Did you ever get this on the RR, I'm interested to see what power you achieved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    Did you ever get this on the RR, I'm interested to see what power you achieved?
    Not yet still running my map one of the reasons is the exhaust may be changed so no point until I decide what to do, the same spec engine using the same catcams made 207bhp and 174 torque

    Video at Lydden with my mates mk2 not a bad pace for a old zetec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995XQfwuEo4

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    240 odd bhp i reckon this will do....
    track fiesta on all the right bits.....

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Do the cams go straight in or do they need re-shimming

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    Quote Originally Posted by robrs2 View Post
    Do the cams go straight in or do they need re-shimming
    Catcams are very close to Fords tolerance, I did not have to change any of the buckets when I installed mine as they were all just within spec.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    I do not know what to say, spectacular, but many many congratulation.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    How are you controlling the VVT at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    How are you controlling the VVT at the moment?
    I removed the vvt and installed catcams and verniers just could not make the vvt work, had a choice to either upgrade the omex 600 or go with new cams expensive option but they bring this engine to life.

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    You should have put a pintosaurus in it eric then you would have been a bit closer to that rs2000 lol !

    I am building the engine closer to 2.0 litres so you can catch up
    Last edited by goldy; 01-01-2014 at 07:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldy View Post
    You should have put a pintosaurus in it eric then you would have been a bit closer to that rs2000 lol !

    I am building the engine closer to 2.0 litres so you can catch up
    Sod off you old git, the poxy old boat anchor will probably expire again

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    Looks good bud

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    Re: MK1 Escort ST170

    Hopefully catch up with you this year bud

    Dont forget my track days at combe

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    Hopefully catch up with you this year bud

    Dont forget my track days at combe
    Hope so Trig, try to get to Lydden or Brands I buy you to a bacon sarnie and probably a cuppa if your lucky

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