Last edited by Forest_rallying; 30-05-2019 at 15:30. Reason: additional script
Cable-Tec 01623 440398. NG17 5HN
i thought that fiesta discs were a direct fit for this kit but my fiesta discs are much deeper than the discs provided.... hmmmm
Different
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I can photo mine shortly
Mine are mk 5/6 escort ones but I believe they are the same as fiesta ones.
My axle has brackets welded on but they maybe for escort front callipers
Might have a test fit tonight and post some pics
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Last edited by wildo105e; 31-05-2019 at 15:35.
My fiesta discs are identically tall, the ones that come with this kit though measure 24mm in height where the fiestas (and your escorts) are 33mm... ill have a play later and see if they bolt up ok on the axle
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Went through a similar process trying to get new discs for my rears recently. This is what I ended up buying and they fitted perfectly (Mk2 Fiesta Van). Use the side arrow on the picture to see the measurements :
https://www.winparts.co.uk/brake-sys.../p4031034.html
Last edited by dt36; 31-05-2019 at 17:24.
The drilled and grooved discs that come with the set dont physically fit over my hubs and the stud holes are huge so im guessing they are set up for group 4.
My fiesta discs do fit on but sit really close to the brake caliper slider, would you just space it out with washers?
Also the pads seem to prottude quite a bit from the disc???
Does this look like the correct position for the caliper at 11 o clock for the handbrake etc?
Cheers steve
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Thinking on it, if i spaced the slider out with washers it would push it even further into the disc.
Its almost like a couple of mm want shaving off these lugs
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Last edited by 5tox; 31-05-2019 at 19:27.
I have a washer between my slider and bracket. This gives me equal spacing either side of the disc with the caliper body fitted.
I'm in the garage tomorrow doing a small job on my Old Mans car. I'll pull my wheel off and try and get a pic of the position for you, if his job goes smoothly.
Sounds like the easy option would be a spacer behind the disc to move it out slightly.
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If the grooved discs work better get the half shafts machines down to fit in the disc. You need to do this with English axles and fiesta discs.
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This is the angle of my drivers side and ride height at 1" lowered:
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Last edited by dt36; 01-06-2019 at 13:41.
If the halfshaft flange is too large getting it machined so it is a snug fit in the disc this will do the locating, but i know what you are saying.
This is all very interesting as i have been looking at those brackets as well as my axle i think has xr3i front caliper brackets welded on but with a little work i think i can stick with them instead.
I think ill sell the discs and ally brackets as a set.
I have decided the easiest option is to create my own weld on brackets so fabricated a 1mm thick template to see how the calipers sit against the fiesta discs and this appears to have resolved my problem.
I really would have preferred to use those nice ally brackets though 🤔
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If you can see on the picture my brackets bolt on so you can get a good weld on the bracket. I assume this is because I have quaife hubs which bolt on from the back but it may be worth adding in while you are making them
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Yes, they are welded on.
I have a question regarding the disc position against the caliper slider, if the caliper was twin pot then the disc would need to sit dead in the centre where it sits inside the slider as both pistons would be pushing equally, does the fact that its a single pot caliper make a difference.... is the piston going to try and push the disc to one side, does it still need to be dead in the centre?
I'm trying to explain the best i can but will take more pics if needed, i am by no means a mechanic
What's stopping you using your Fiesta discs and maching a couple of mil off the lugs for the caliper carrier? That looks like your easiest option unless I am missing something.
That would solve half of my problem, my other issue was that the ally brackets were for a slightly larger disc so part of the pads were not in contact with the disc face
Use the steel weld on bracket as I can't get my head around what holds the bearing for the halfshaft in properly with that alloy bolt on bracket.
The alloy plate / bracket replaces the OEM steel bearing plate. On mine I had to take the half shafts out to turn down the drive flange so once out the steel plate comes off and is replaced with the alloy one - maybe this is why the caliper is offset so much 0 the steel plate is still in place?
You must have two piece shafts Katana. To remove the steel plate that holds the bearing in with a std Ford halfshaft you'd have split the collar and remove the bearing and steel plate and then fit the alloy mounting bracket and then replace the bearing. Am I right in what I am saying?
You must have two piece shafts Katana. To remove the steel plate that holds the bearing in with a std Ford halfshaft you'd have split the collar and remove the bearing and steel plate and then fit the alloy mounting bracket and then replace the bearing. Am I right in what I am saying?
Now you've got me thinking - certainly not two piece shafts - std RS2000. Maybe the collar stayed and the bracket thing just replaced the old brake backing plate in thickness. I think the hole in the centre of the bracket was large enough that bearing fitted through it. I know I never removed the bearings.
If that's the axle casing I sold you a few years ago, then the brackets are for xr3i front calipers and vented discs (as that's what I use)
But the hole spacing on the bracket is the same as for cossie calipers, you might need washers/spacers to make them sit correctly with your discs
GavinR
Hi Gavin. It is indeed it will be alive soon as i have most parts for it now.
The only difference seems to be if my fiesta/escort discs were 2mm smaller in diameter it would work perfectly. I have 2 choices change the brackets or machine the discs slightly
Managed to get hold of a 18 spline diff for it now and a cwp etc.
The bracket ive made is 6mm thick steel, do you reckon that will be enough or shall i go 10mm?
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Me thinks 10mm
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