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    Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Hello to everyone! ok alot of you might recognise this shell, it was built by The legend that is Gary at Retro Motorsport. It was then sold, and has then been left dormant for a few years until it changed hands. The shell was then sent to SPL and acid dipped and then ecoated. This is the stage that Dave and Myself stepped in. Dave purchased the car along with a truck load of bits and now the project is back on track!. We are both trained techs from a very good background and are lucky enough to have a workshop fully equipped to build the car. The first step is to hang all the sheet metal back on te car and have a very good friend (Neil from Read performance in New Milton near Bournemouth) come and do alll the gapping and finishing off. The shell has gained a few knocks etc in the years it has stood since being built and Neil is an old school coachbuilder who for years worked at the world famous Rod Jolley coachbuilders. Anyway Neil is the next stage so the pics below (if i can make this work!) are from the build when Gary had the shell all those years ago and how it looks now!.


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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Pics......
























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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    looks good, recognise the venue too
    Last edited by Montyman; 26-12-2010 at 13:32.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    The pics are from where the car was bought. Now at a top secret location
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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    oooh baby! that is sweeeeeeeet!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Nice, It would make building one so much easier being able to get them like as a base.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Very nice i think i saw this on ebay?

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    what a great starting point, very nice indeed.
    Just add Duratec and stir lightly....

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    very nice base to start from is it going to be used for motorsport o just a very nice road car and what spec is the running gear going to be cant wait to see the end result cheers and good luck

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Quote Originally Posted by RETRO_AL View Post
    Very nice i think i saw this on ebay?
    Thought I reckonised the pics myself and thats the only way I would know it lol

    Great starting point good luck

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Yes a few of you are rite the car was on ebay, not how Dave bought it mind. Dobuy duratec is the favorite at the moment! As for purpose well its looking like it will be built to be legal to race but used as a weekender and toy!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    oooh thats gonna be sweet....

    Keep us posted

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Very nice...

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    better than new
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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    the cage looks top work

    will be great car when finished

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    looks very smart

    who's did it used to be before?

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    So much potential!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Hi all, I believe it used to belong to the pigman, a member on here, he sold up and the car just got left, anyway we have been busy and hung what sheet metal we can ready for it to all be gapped and fettled! as you will see she has gained a few dents here and there, but not to worry these will NOT be filled but refiished properly with all the pics of that to follow!





















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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Very nice.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    I think it would be possible to pick a Gary grafted car out of a bunch of cars because his work is just great the man should be so proud of his capabilities and acheivements This car as said before has sooooo much potential I'm almost jealous.................. No I am jealous can't wait to see this one transform into some of that potential

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    To be honest im jealous!! I get to help build it and enjoy the finished article, and its got no real budget on the build either so it should turn out to be a stunning car.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    good to see it has gone to a good home I know Tony was sad to see it go, looking foward to the next update



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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    jealous! such a clean slate to start with.

    out of interest, how many dents were attained at the dippers? tempted to get mine done but i've heard the usual bad things.....
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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Quote Originally Posted by seventynine View Post
    jealous! such a clean slate to start with.

    out of interest, how many dents were attained at the dippers? tempted to get mine done but i've heard the usual bad things.....
    No dents from the dippers that ive noticed and it was e coated too so shouldnt have any probs with any acid remaining in the joints. the dents its picked up are from being lying about for 4 ish years!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    nice one mate, put my mind at (relative) ease about getting mine dipped, i take it it went to the place in dudley right?
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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    eems to be a good way of doin the shell it has only missed a couple of tiny places but no problem to sort those (The E Coat) and cant get a better way of removing everythiing except the solid metal! just remember you may get a nasty suprise! This shell was dipped after gary had finished so we knew it was SOLID! And yeah wa the place in dudley (SPL)

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    I read on another forum that SPL had stopped E coating, they certainly didn't do a Fiesta for whatever reason thats on Passionford.

    Nice shell btw, should make a fantastic base to build a car from

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
    I read on another forum that SPL had stopped E coating, they certainly didn't do a Fiesta for whatever reason thats on Passionford.
    I heard that too but haven't heard why.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Yeah i heard that they had stopped, yet they still advertise it! weird

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    I have have heard that in some cases it wasn't doign it jobs properly, that was before I read that they had stopped doing it so sort of makes sense

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    The process this one had was dipping then electrophoretically primed, they were recently advertising it and covering it for 3 years against rust. this one was done about 8 months ago and no rust is showing and the coating is not causing a prob its only in a barn and my tools etc all get damp in the mornings and hasnt hurt it......yet! i guess time will tell!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    I belive the E coating was outsourced close by, and that company went bust, SPL tried to obtain it but didnt for some reason, they now offer a Phosphating service i belive ..

    As for Dents from the dippers, along with Acid left in seems ..its forum talk, i've had loads of shells from SPL , and as you know, i cut a fair ammount out of them, these sections are normally moisture traps, and when cut are bone dry. Also, as the acid works it loses strength, so even if there was a bit left, it would dry, and also be in-effective.
    As for the dents that 'appear' ... these normally have scuff marks aswell , ie 80 grit paper has been rubbed around them before the filler was applied, and apparently its only the ford owner that have these dents appear, the Astons that they do, nope, no dents, but then Astons get repaired by hammering and shrinking etc, no filler allowed.
    I don't get anything from SPL for recomending them, but, i always do, its a brillient process when compared with blasting .... and thats before the coating, even if you dont go for that, the dipping is brillient. With blasting it cant get into the seams , and all cars rust from the seams. I've peeled apart these seams, and no rust is visable, pitting yes, but the corrosion has gone, i've also peeled apart blasted sections, and that seam..its as rusty as it was before its blasted, to me, blasting is a waste of money.
    remember you don't have to have the coating, just have it dipped in acid, its worth it, trust me ..

    Now onto the car, i'm really glad this one is being built up, the shell was really good to start with, and Tony was brillient to work with, he put the money into this shell, and i know the decision to sell was hard, good luck with the build

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Cool info Gary, I had my shell dipped there but not e-coated, the shell was perfect but as you say no way would it of looked that good had it of been blasted.

    Mine didn't come back with any dents either.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Ah I remember this one tiz a mint shell

    You mind me asking what you payed for it???

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Thanks Gary now my mind is at rest!! im sure ill be talking to you again for some advice! one thing whilst i remember the rear valance has a row of holes but they arnt swaged?? is there a reason or did they just get missed or added at a later date? i need to get them finished before the paint! ill be keeping this updated as soon as work is done to the car. thanks guys! oh and Trig is was allot but not when you look at he work that has gone into it by gary!

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    This shell is a dream come true for most people. After having had to deal with rust on my MGB GT I have decided to by a new shell (we MGB'ers are lucky this way) if I ever do another.

    Gary - thanks for the info on the dipping aswell. I don't think there are many others around that has had the possibility to pick apart a shell that has been dipped and actually knows whats going on when a shell has been dipped.
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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Those holes in the rear valance where added after it left here ... i normally take the air brake panel out, and roll the edges , someone else must have put them in there after Tony sold her, as he wanted the panel left standard

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Gary,

    Out of interest, which way would you swage the holes on a rear valance, inwards or outwards?
    Inwards would look nicer from an asthetic point of view but outwards (in my tiny mechanical mind) would seem more functional - better airflow etc.

    BTW, Carl, it looks like a great project and the shell a credit to Gary.

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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retromotorsport View Post
    Those holes in the rear valance where added after it left here ... i normally take the air brake panel out, and roll the edges , someone else must have put them in there after Tony sold her, as he wanted the panel left standard
    Ok Gary ill have a look and probably do that to it will tidy the back up better and save me buying 4 or 5 different size swaging tols! as they are all different sizes! il call you in the week to ask a few questions on the shell


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    Re: Retro Motorsport Shell.

    so whats the plan?

    engine ect?
    looks like it will be a cracker of a project green with envy here

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