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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    Yeh it's not great stuff if you were spraying it regularly then air fed is a must but a one off car a couple of panels at a time won't kill you if the 2k compatible disposable mask is used just don't hang around in there looking at it....

    In my case a few panels at a time and leave the area is ok like alladin says many garages years ago didn't use air fed masks...I used a mask supplied by a local car paints shop specified for 2k and my arms and legs are still attached and everything

    3m are bound to say air fed only lol there will always be a twerp that wants to inhale it from a monster munch packet and take them to court when their head falls off...
    That's because years ago folk sprayed cellulose and it takes time for health issues to develop, isocyanates ain't stuff to breath or get on your skin.....you absorb a lot through your eyes too....for the sake of a proper mask is the risk really worth taking?

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    That's because years ago folk sprayed cellulose and it takes time for health issues to develop, isocyanates ain't stuff to breath or get on your skin.....you absorb a lot through your eyes too....for the sake of a proper mask is the risk really worth taking?
    Not everybody used cellulose years ago at all...spraying SMALL amounts with a mask specified for 2k is not going to kill you like I said if you use it REGULARLY then you should use an air fed mask....

    Plenty have painted one car with disposable 2k mask and oddly enough lived to tell the tale

    Mind if you are the forum argumentative twat because a few guys took the piss cos you lost your escort like a girl on "cold tyres" then I guess this will clutter John's thread up for years to come lol

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    Not everybody used cellulose years ago at all...spraying SMALL amounts with a mask specified for 2k is not going to kill you like I said if you use it REGULARLY then you should use an air fed mask....

    Plenty have painted one car with disposable 2k mask and oddly enough lived to tell the tale

    Mind if you are the forum argumentative twat because a few guys took the piss cos you lost your escort like a girl on "cold tyres" then I guess this will clutter John's thread up for years to come lol
    Twat?, fuck off you little cock!, a bit of friendly advice to save the dudes health results in being called a twat...idiot!

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    No you bipping up in the back round constantly like that donkey off the shrek films gets you called an argumentative twat lol

    I and others have said doing small amounts will not kill you which is fact and your not happy unless your bipping back all the time which seams par for the course with you tbh...

    I will not reply any further now not to fill up John's thread with it.....

    Que shreks donkey.....

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    No you bipping up in the back round constantly like that donkey off the shrek films gets you called an argumentative twat lol

    I and others have said doing small amounts will not kill you which is fact and your not happy unless your bipping back all the time which seams par for the course with you tbh...

    I will not reply any further now not to fill up John's thread with it.....

    Que shreks donkey.....
    And you think I give a fuck? Lol

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Well that got interesting lol, Gary comes to mind.



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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    I sprayed a lorry with 2k, no mask and it hasnt killed me ye

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    And you think I give a fuck? Lol

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by lukem30 View Post
    Well that got interesting lol, Gary comes to mind.



    Gary the goat or Garry A? Because they both don't give a fuck either. Must be some kind of cool kids tag 'not giving a fuck'?

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Must be a myth then lol

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    I used the throw away masks that car paints in Bridgend sell mate they maybe the same as you have used? As long as they have the charcoal filters..Good for spraying 2k for 30hrs

    Air fed obviously better but then again for that you would need your compressor in a separate area from your garage or you would be feeding yourself the fumes anyway lol That's why I used the disposable

    I have my compressor under my bench separated off by doors with vents to take air in but I was still nervous of it sucking in overspray/fumes
    Why would you have a compressor in the same area your spraying kicking up dust anyway?

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Why would you have a compressor in the same area your spraying kicking up dust anyway?
    hhhmmmmmmmmmm


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Why would you have a compressor in the same area your spraying kicking up dust anyway?
    I haven't like I said mines boxed in under my bench with vents in the outside wall to take air in. ..

    I have seen many compressors in the corner that's why I said that...

    The other reason many diy guys don't use air fed is most compressors that will run of household 3 pin plug won't kick out enough air to run the mask and to paint...Mines a 3hp v twin and from memory it's output is 17/18 cfm that would be cutting in and out like hell doing both and as my garage is at the top of the garden about 100ft from the house that trips the electric from time to time..

    That's why I used 2k compatible disposable mask painting a few panels at a time not too bad if you soak the floor first paper suit and minimal time in there

    I wouldn't paint the stuff regularly without one though
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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    hhhmmmmmmmmmm

    I think you need to tidy your garage John....lol

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    I haven't like I said mines boxed in under my bench with vents in the outside wall to take air in. ..

    I have seen many compressors in the corner that's why I said that...

    The other reason many diy guys don't use air fed is most compressors that will run of household 3 pin plug won't kick out enough air to run the mask and to paint...Mines a 3hp v twin and from memory it's output is 17/18 cfm that would be cutting in and out like hell doing both and as my garage is at the top of the garden about 100ft from the house that trips the electric from time to time..

    That's why I used 2k compatible disposable mask painting a few panels at a time not too bad if you soak the floor first paper suit and minimal time in there

    I wouldn't paint the stuff regularly without one though
    It's the receiver size that dictates how often it kicks in....I have an 18cfm compressor with a 100l tank and it's NLT too bad when using an HVLP gun, a decent spray gun makes a big diff, most cheapo guns put more paint in the air than on a panel, I bought a 2nd hand gravity fed Devilibiss gun for £50 and it need very low pressure.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    It's the receiver size that dictates how often it kicks in....I have an 18cfm compressor with a 100l tank and it's NLT too bad when using an HVLP gun, a decent spray gun makes a big diff, most cheapo guns put more paint in the air than on a panel, I bought a 2nd hand gravity fed Devilibiss gun for £50 and it need very low pressure.
    I have a 50ltr receiver I forgot to add that...I have a devilbiss gravity fed too 1.4 and 1.6

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    I think you need to tidy your garage John....lol
    I know! I have to empty half of it out before i can work on the car. If it was all in/on the car there would be loads more room. Know anyone who wants an atlas axle? 3.75 diff 52" or i can shorten it to 50" for more cash. Lol.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    I have a 50ltr receiver I forgot to add that...I have a devilbiss gravity fed too 1.4 and 1.6
    I have a V twin 3bp 50l compressor and what is called the 'primer gun' the proper guns are being brought home from psychos work (personal guns) ready for the weekend.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by Erikmex View Post
    Why would you have a compressor in the same area your spraying kicking up dust anyway?
    The whole set up isn't ideal at all but it will be ok when done. Psycho has painted cars in worse places.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by NudgerSS View Post
    Looks good. If I was changing colour on mine I would go similar to that

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by MegatronUK View Post
    It looks quite similar to the mk4/5 XR2i/3i/RS colours.
    There you go


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Number plate lights welded up



    Little more filler too



    Primed the spoiler and rubbed it back



    You can see the bonet in the back round read for primer top and bottom.



    Primed the bonnet and in this photo i have rubbed half of it back. It looks good for a fibreglass one apart from the house vents in it.....


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    I know! I have to empty half of it out before i can work on the car. If it was all in/on the car there would be loads more room. Know anyone who wants an atlas axle? 3.75 diff 52" or i can shorten it to 50" for more cash. Lol.
    I'd shorten that axle to 50" anyway mate and get It on the bay worth more to the escort boys at 50"

    Can you lob the std half shafts down an inch as well or do you have to use different shafts?

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by evans2822 View Post
    I'd shorten that axle to 50" anyway mate and get It on the bay worth more to the escort boys at 50"

    Can you lob the std half shafts down an inch as well or do you have to use different shafts?
    cut 1" off the shafts too plenty of splines there

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    More work done on the bonnet all by myself

    The under side is rough obviously but the paint is half about





    Some stopper in the boot after i welded the holes up for the boot pins. Bonnet drying in the back ground



    Not a bad finish out of the 'primer gun' she just needs a good buff to get some of the dust out.





    Another picture, just to say if carlsberg done paint jobs it would be as shite as their beer.


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Lacquered the inside too today







    With the inside all masked off we moved to the outside. The rear panel was fillered up



    And was roughed out. More work is needed and maybe another skim of stopper.


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    So today i was left on my own again...... So i thought i would final up the door and boot lid ready for paint

    Full of stopper



    Rubbed back with a few more bits put in





    Seam sealed the door



    I had got this far and thought it is about time i got the primer out.



    Boot all knocked back







    More stopper in the boot

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Prepping the boot



    Primed. And the right side rubbed down




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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Time to throw some paint about.

    Inside of the boot lid



    The door shut



    Then on to the outside of the boot lid.



    It is a great finish too considering it is straight out of a crap gun.



    I then done the spoiler and that came out terrible so i will have to 500 grit that vack and go again


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    It looks like i have missed the end in the photo but i haven't


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Nice going for an outside job!

    The thing is, are you going to want to give the car so much welly once you've got it all looking nice again?

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by MegatronUK View Post
    Nice going for an outside job!

    The thing is, are you going to want to give the car so much welly once you've got it all looking nice again?

    Thanks for that. It will look decent. And i don't like a mk2 or a 4 door so no matter how nice she looks it will still be abused. I only have the mk2 as a 'cheap' practice car before my mk1 2 door is finished.

    If i had paid good money for the paint job i would think again. This is why i would rather paint it myself and learn too.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    thats a fantastic finish for an outdoor DIY job, nice work!! love that colour so much, if i ever mash my car il be repairing it that colour.
    keep up the good work!

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by onecamohv View Post
    thats a fantastic finish for an outdoor DIY job, nice work!! love that colour so much, if i ever mash my car il be repairing it that colour.
    keep up the good work!

    Thanks for that. I am looking into borrowing my mates spray booth if it is free to blow over the boot and bonnet again and paint the whole car at the same time. But we will see. Regarding your car Hopefully you don't stuff it! It is massive work to do all the work.

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    I started today by rubbing down the spoiler



    Then the door shuts on the drivers side were finalled for primer



    And the drivers sill which has some deep stone damage in two places but i think i will leave that as it is. It is alot of work drilling, slide hammrring, welding and filling just for something that can't be seen that well and willget damaged again


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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Fill em ya lazy sod lol

    Them nice blue mudflaps will protect that area lol

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    Yep, do it now. I did my sills last month as got to wishing I had straightened them prior to spraying. Satin black now as the stone chip looks like hammerite under silver

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Yes, you've got the opportunity to do it now, before paint!

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    Re: Project more door aka the sh!++3$ for autotests, drift days and road rallys

    Quote Originally Posted by alladdin View Post
    Yep, do it now. I did my sills last month as got to wishing I had straightened them prior to spraying. Satin black now as the stone chip looks like hammerite under silver
    the rest of the sill rubbed down great it was just them two places, i have primed them now it is only going to be abuse again any way

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