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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Do you supply a plate for a 1.6 ford ecoboost, I believe its the same a sigma block

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    Do you supply a plate for a 1.6 ford ecoboost, I believe its the same a sigma block
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    hi mate yes we have the sigma / puma engine plate kit done ... Duratec . And many more

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    did anyone ever get a proper finished CAD drawing done for rx8 to zetec

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    I took delivery of mine last week and have mocked it up to a spare 2.8 Cologne engine. I'm using a five speed RX8 box, which according to my research has the same bell housing, input shaft length etc. as the six speed.

    It all fits together very nicely, but there is a bit of a caveat. The 2.8 flywheel is thinner than a 2.9 version, so the clutch plate doesn't engage fully with the splined input shaft. It's about 3/4 of the way over it when fully engaged. I'm sure this will be fine for the meagre 140 BHP I'm putting through it, but thought I'd point it out just incase anyone is planning to use the lighter (but thinner) 2.8 flywheel. My fix is to use a flywheel shim from the US model 1984 Ford Ranger. These are about a fiver each from the States and should give the splines a bit more bite. Another minor issue was the amount sweep I got from the clutch arm/thrust bearing to disengage the clutch plate. I solved this by spacing out the clutch arm fulcrum, see photos below.

    All in all, I've got a very good feeling about this conversion. Can't wait to get it all fitted in the car.

    This is how it looks fitted up. It has the clutch pedal and hydraulics plumbed up, just to make sure it all works properly before I start pulling my car apart.



    Input shaft extension that Phil supplies. This will be welded in place.



    This is the clutch arm fulcrum. I had to space it out a touch to get a full sweep of the thrust bearing to disengage the clutch. See the rusty looking thick washer.




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    Quote Originally Posted by scimitarcars View Post
    I took delivery of mine last week and have mocked it up to a spare 2.8 Cologne engine. I'm using a five speed RX8 box, which according to my research has the same bell housing, input shaft length etc. as the six speed.

    It all fits together very nicely, but there is a bit of a caveat. The 2.8 flywheel is thinner than a 2.9 version, so the clutch plate doesn't engage fully with the splined input shaft. It's about 3/4 of the way over it when fully engaged. I'm sure this will be fine for the meagre 140 BHP I'm putting through it, but thought I'd point it out just incase anyone is planning to use the lighter (but thinner) 2.8 flywheel. My fix is to use a flywheel shim from the US model 1984 Ford Ranger. These are about a fiver each from the States and should give the splines a bit more bite. Another minor issue was the amount sweep I got from the clutch arm/thrust bearing to disengage the clutch plate. I solved this by spacing out the clutch arm fulcrum, see photos below.

    All in all, I've got a very good feeling about this conversion. Can't wait to get it all fitted in the car.

    This is how it looks fitted up. It has the clutch pedal and hydraulics plumbed up, just to make sure it all works properly before I start pulling my car apart.



    Input shaft extension that Phil supplies. This will be welded in place.



    This is the clutch arm fulcrum. I had to space it out a touch to get a full sweep of the thrust bearing to disengage the clutch. See the rusty looking thick washer.



    hi there to reduce travel you can cut the arm on the bend or crank straighten it out and reinforce the inner part which will take even more play up and solve the travel issue .. P9cyo ..

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Does anyone know whats happened to P9cyo?
    I ordered a conversion plate last month was told a couple of weeks for delivery,sent him PM and txt his mobile but getting no answer.
    Just want to know when I will receive it so I can start mocking up.
    He maybe he is on holiday? or just really busy making the conversion plates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radjay mk1 View Post
    Does anyone know whats happened to P9cyo?
    I ordered a conversion plate last month was told a couple of weeks for delivery,sent him PM and txt his mobile but getting no answer.
    Just want to know when I will receive it so I can start mocking up.
    He maybe he is on holiday? or just really busy making the conversion plates?


    Sorry mate dint reply to your txt ... Just seen this .. Hi demand and ran out of blanks but have plenty done now and fifty kits going out Monday so all will have them .

    shall be at ford fair and many other shows this year with new kits gearbox mounts and also kit to modify your gearbox to use your type9 arm in same place as the type9 and cable .

    Which will suit a lot of you out there .. P9cyo

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    I will recieve next week then?

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Anyone got the ratios of the 5 speed rx8 box to compare with the 5 speed type 9? Seems the 6 speed boxes are fetching a premium now.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    http://www.mazda.co.uk/assets/uk/use...8_brochure.pdf
    http://www.type9gearbox.co.uk/type-9-production.html

    gear, 5 speed, 6 speed, type 9 i4, Type 9 v6

    1st 3.483 3.760 3.65, 3.36
    2nd 2.015 2.269 1.97 1.81
    3rd 1.484 1.645 1.37 1.26
    4th 1.000 1.187 1.00 1.00
    5th 0.762 1.000 0.82 0.82
    6th - 0.843 - -
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    Ordered one plate yesterday through ebay ... because of this topic !

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    Cheers ugg10, that's spot on.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Hi P9cyo do you ship/post to the United States.. Very interested in getting one , it's goin on a mk2 escort 2.0 pinto, just the conversion plate kit with oil seal adapter for escort prop.. Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by choo View Post
    Hi P9cyo do you ship/post to the United States.. Very interested in getting one , it's goin on a mk2 escort 2.0 pinto, just the conversion plate kit with oil seal adapter for escort prop.. Many thanks

    Hi hi there mate

    we don't mind shipping world wide and already are .. Average shipping cost is about £50 gbp but can get proper price when needed ,

    and the the kits are newer type one that's a lot better now , and we don't supply the oil seal as you need to use the rx8 end piece but if going onto and escort you can use the full rx8 carbon fibre prop by redrilling your large prop fange to suit and nut and bolt like the early mk1 escorts .. Hope this helps p9cyo ..

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Hello p9syco I bought one of your kits a while ago but haven't got around to fitting it yet I assume it's an early one and I am concerned as to people and now yourself saying they don't fit properly what sort of problems am I likely to run into

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by P9cyo View Post
    Hi hi there mate

    we don't mind shipping world wide and already are .. Average shipping cost is about £50 gbp but can get proper price when needed ,

    and the the kits are newer type one that's a lot better now , and we don't supply the oil seal as you need to use the rx8 end piece but if going onto and escort you can use the full rx8 carbon fibre prop by redrilling your large prop fange to suit and nut and bolt like the early mk1 escorts .. Hope this helps p9cyo ..
    Thanks P9cyo I'll be emailing you, or whatever type of communication you prefer, regarding payment details and delivery address

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    email me or phone me its not a problem.. p9cyo@hotmail.co.uk tel 07815007836 paypal or bank transfer is fine, Click image for larger version Name:	PLATES MOSAIC PIC.jpg Views:	485 Size:	125.4 KB ID:	75765Click image for larger version Name:	RX8 TYPE9 MOSAIC .jpg Views:	493 Size:	94.5 KB ID:	75766 more pics just to update you.. website is still on its way... cheers... p9cyo

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Ordered mine on the 9th of August via ebay for the Sigma engine I really cannot wait to fit it together. I will say I sent Phil a couple of messages via ebay and he replied pretty quick and always seemed happy to reply. I will post a picture of a plate fitted to a sigma block when I get mine as i have not seen a photo of that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    Ordered mine on the 9th of August via ebay for the Sigma engine I really cannot wait to fit it together. I will say I sent Phil a couple of messages via ebay and he replied pretty quick and always seemed happy to reply. I will post a picture of a plate fitted to a sigma block when I get mine as i have not seen a photo of that yet.
    I would be interested to see that, on the upgrade list for my car with a Puma 1.7 in it. You also doing the cable clutch conversion ?
    1968 Ford Anglia 1.7 Puma engine/Escort front/5 Link rear/RX8 box
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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Does this gearbox need a two piece propshaft ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmr025 View Post
    Does this gearbox need a two piece propshaft ?

    Hi there

    it it only needs one piece prop but has to use rx8 end for box . P9cyo

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    Ok just wondered because rx8 diff is bolted up solid so doesn't move like an axle , did the same on a s2000 engine and box it broke the rear end off of gearbox

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugg10 View Post
    I would be interested to see that, on the upgrade list for my car with a Puma 1.7 in it. You also doing the cable clutch conversion ?
    I have the gearbox but using the original hydraulic slave as the spitfire i am putting it in used an hydraulic slave as standard.

    Not got the conversion plate as yet hoping it will be soon. Got a box from a friend who works in a breakers with everything on it including prop for £100 from a 41,000 mile car




    Mine is not for the 1.7 its for a 1.6 Duratec/Sigma engine from a 2012 focus, only 2,200 miles on it for £325 complete.




    just looking forward to my adapter plate turning up now hope it will be soon.
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    rx8 gearbox?

    Has anyone ever used the 5 speed Mazda box? Is it really that much weaker than the 6 speed? And does it have the same dimensions etc.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Haven't seen the plate yet, out of stock P9cyo ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by racing escort View Post
    Haven't seen the plate yet, out of stock P9cyo ?
    When did you order yours? I paid for mine on 9th of August but not received yet. Looking forward to writing good things about it but missed this months Triumph World magazine deadline so hopefully I will get something ready for next months cut off date.

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    I believe I paid 29 july ... A simple "sorry, out of order for the moment, wait till ... " would have been nice !

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    Quote Originally Posted by racing escort View Post
    I believe I paid 29 july ... A simple "sorry, out of order for the moment, wait till ... " would have been nice !
    I know this doesn't help you guys at the moment but i will be producing an adaptor plate that will be ready in the next week or two. That is laser cut so perfect every time and it will have threads tapped into it making a nice neat bolt on aplication instead of messing with a load of nuts and washers all the time. Only for the standard type ford belhousing at the moment but i could easily get a readtop one drawn up too and maybe other if there is enough interest. Once they are all drawn up and in the laser cutters turn around time from ordering to your doorstep wouldn't be more than 5 workings days every time.
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    Id prefer a laser cut plate!! Seems like people are having a bit of trouble on delivery, what sort of cost do you think a red top one would come out at?

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by Automax2010 View Post
    Id prefer a laser cut plate!! Seems like people are having a bit of trouble on delivery, what sort of cost do you think a red top one would come out at?
    If all goes well with the ford one the vauxhall ones should be cut tested and ready to produce in about 3 weeks and shouldn't be more than £130 posted with in the u.k. I will keep you updated though. Drop me a pm so it is easier to contact you at a later date.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by Automax2010 View Post
    Has anyone ever used the 5 speed Mazda box? Is it really that much weaker than the 6 speed? And does it have the same dimensions etc.
    Done some checking on this. The 6 speed seems to be popular as it's got 6 gears but it's not the best. The internals are the same as the Mazda mx5 and Lexus is200. The gear change is said to be a bit poor compared to the 5 speed. The 5 speed is a Mazda derived box unlike the 6 speed. It was based no the older rx7 fd box. This is said to be much stronger than the rx8 boxes.
    Someone check into the rx7 and 5 speed rx8 boxes and found the early gear set fits the later box. The 5 speed rx8 box is stronger than the 6 speed. If the rx7 gear kit is retro fitted it's said the 5 speed box is than a 500 bhp capable box.
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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    As above. A number of people here in Aus using the RX7 FC/FD 5 speed as its stronger than the RX8 6-speed. Including of course the rotary crowd. However any NA escort isn't going to hurt a Rx8 6-speed. Turbo cars might be worth using the earlier stronger RX7 box though..

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    I'm still waiting I payed on the 5th august
    Has any one had there's yet it's getting boring now

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    i've got an update of my own this beauty is in the laser cutters as we speak...........sorry i can't help with people who have bought plates off psycho though.


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    rx8 gearbox?

    Looks like it's gonna be a nice piece of kit, can't wait to see the finished piece

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    rx8 gearbox?

    Does anyone know if the Mazda 5 speed has the same input shaft as the 6 speed as this is what makes the conversion a lot easier because it shares the same spline size as the ford type 9

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    It is the RX8 gearbox that has the same spline as the Ford pattern and makes it ideal for this conversion, all of the Mazda/200SX/IS200/GT86 boxes are same as the RX8 internally and externally but have different input shaft splines as far as I know (Aisin AZ6 box). Mazda 5 speed is different as well AFAIK. Others please correct me if I a wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automax2010 View Post
    Does anyone know if the Mazda 5 speed has the same input shaft as the 6 speed as this is what makes the conversion a lot easier because it shares the same spline size as the ford type 9
    the rx8 5 speed is the same in respect to the flange and shaft sizes but i don't know if the mx5 box has the same input shaft. It all depends what mazda box you are on about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ugg10 View Post
    It is the RX8 gearbox that has the same spline as the Ford pattern and makes it ideal for this conversion, all of the Mazda/200SX/IS200/GT86 boxes are same as the RX8 internally and externally but have different input shaft splines as far as I know (Aisin AZ6 box). Mazda 5 speed is different as well AFAIK. Others please correct me if I a wrong.
    alos the honda s2000 box too. there same to be loads of them that share the same guts.

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    rx8 gearbox?

    The rx8 5 speed I would hopefully use but that's only if it's as simple to fit as the 6 speed, seems a lot more cost effective to go for a 5 speed and there more readily available

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