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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by Automax2010 View Post
    The rx8 5 speed I would hopefully use but that's only if it's as simple to fit as the 6 speed, seems a lot more cost effective to go for a 5 speed and there more readily available
    Yeah they are the same flange and shaft wise, a friend of mine bought a 192 rx8 (the 5 speed version) pulled the engine out and fitted a 4l v8 32 valve lexus engine using a conversion plate similar to mine to bolt it up. the 5 speed to me doesn't look as robust to me though but depending on what you are bolting it too is should be ok.


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    IRe: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    alos the honda s2000 box too. there same to be loads of them that share the same guts.
    Pretty sure the s2000 gearbox is different as it has a secondary reduction gear on the final drive. List of az6 here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._transmissions
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    Quote Originally Posted by ugg10 View Post
    Pretty sure the s2000 gearbox is different as it has a secondary reduction gear on the final drive. List of az6 here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._transmissions
    I didn't know that about the s2000 my mistake but wiki isn't always 100% right either.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Bit more info on the differences between the s2000 and the az6 - looks like there may be some similarities but Honda have changed a lot if they started with an AZ6 as the template.

    http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/1056...-an-aisin-az6/

    That said, for this thread the critical bit of fitting the RX8 to ford engines is that the input spline is the same as the standard ford spline so there is very little messing around with weird clutch combinations.
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    rx8 gearbox?

    So looks like the 5 speed Mazda should be as straight forward to fit as the 6 speed ?! Same dimensions and input shaft etc. Carbon prop as well! My only other idea is a Vauxhall omega box? Would bolt straight into the current XE engine but I don't know much about dimensions and prop setup etc.?

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by Automax2010 View Post
    So looks like the 5 speed Mazda should be as straight forward to fit as the 6 speed ?! Same dimensions and input shaft etc. Carbon prop as well! My only other idea is a Vauxhall omega box? Would bolt straight into the current XE engine but I don't know much about dimensions and prop setup etc.?
    The body that holds the gears is smaller in diameter but the rest is the same. Gear stick possition, input shafts, flange, output flange and the prop shaft.

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    Hi there - quick update on orders - All orders have gone out and should be with you very shortly - Sorry about delay due to a couple of staff issues and doing my back in !! We now have our WEBSITE up & running so canbe contacted easily not always on here (forum) I am the ORIGINAL inventor/deisgner of these plates and I stock MOST engines on racks so can check products - due to people copying my ideas i will offer better deals and guarantee 1 week delivery !!! I will undercut "freddy" or put in free gearbox mount (RX8 to Type 9) Please Check Website WWW.P9CYOPLATES.CO.UK now have a hundred ZETEC plates in stock and others too... Club buys ie 5 or MORE we will do plate kits at 100 each !! Special Offer!!!

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by P9cyo View Post
    Hi there - quick update on orders - All orders have gone out and should be with you very shortly - Sorry about delay due to a couple of staff issues and doing my back in !! We now have our WEBSITE up & running so canbe contacted easily not always on here (forum) I am the ORIGINAL inventor/deisgner of these plates and I stock MOST engines on racks so can check products - due to people copying my ideas i will offer better deals and guarantee 1 week delivery !!! I will undercut "freddy" or put in free gearbox mount (RX8 to Type 9) Please Check Website WWW.P9CYOPLATES.CO.UK now have a hundred ZETEC plates in stock and others too... Club buys ie 5 or MORE we will do plate kits at 100 each !! Special Offer!!!
    The ORIGINAL isn't always the best. People want quality and reliablity (going missing for a month doesn't help anyone) so slash your prices as much as you want cheap isn't always chearful. i am willing to sell my idea the same as you are but i am doing it so people can improve and keep thier classics running not to bulk out plates to make profits.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by P9cyo View Post
    Hi there - quick update on orders - All orders have gone out and should be with you very shortly - Sorry about delay due to a couple of staff issues and doing my back in !! We now have our WEBSITE up & running so canbe contacted easily not always on here (forum) I am the ORIGINAL inventor/deisgner of these plates and I stock MOST engines on racks so can check products - due to people copying my ideas i will offer better deals and guarantee 1 week delivery !!! I will undercut "freddy" or put in free gearbox mount (RX8 to Type 9) Please Check Website WWW.P9CYOPLATES.CO.UK now have a hundred ZETEC plates in stock and others too... Club buys ie 5 or MORE we will do plate kits at 100 each !! Special Offer!!!
    this is all starting to look very business like and sounding like its time to become a forum sponsor

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    So then you put in a FREE gearbox mount for all those who waited over a month for the plate ?

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    So then you put in a FREE gearbox mount for all those who waited over a month for the plate ?
    I could txt me or contact through website , www.p9cyoplates.co.uk ...

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    So have you any dates on when we're going to
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    My plate arrived at my English address

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    I had my plate today back from the laser cutters i am so excited!





    The dowel holes line up great too so it will locate the input shaft perfectly in the spigot bearing.

    A friend of mine will drill and tap it for me tomorrow now so i will have the box on by the weekend.
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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Are you going to use a dust shield as well

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Looking good freddy
    You selling the tranx soon
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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by robrs2 View Post
    Are you going to use a dust shield as well
    Nope my sump is a big bulky item and covers most of the open area of the gearbox.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by mexicotait View Post
    Looking good freddy
    You selling the tranx soon
    Not really i want to get the rx8 box up a running and see how it copes. Are you in a hurry for it then?

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Are you going to be selling these soon then

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    So this happened today





    You can see i nut and bolted where the dowels line up the plate. So i had to nip a bit out of the box.





    And for the starter to clear



    The input shaft is in a great place too!








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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Are you going to be selling these

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by maskedavenger View Post
    Are you going to be selling these
    Hopefully once i have mine up and running.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    Not really i want to get the rx8 box up a running and see how it copes. Are you in a hurry for it then?
    Not really I can't afford it yet after my daily went wrong
    I was panicking that you'd be flogging it soon
    Whenever your ready let me know how much you want for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by mexicotait View Post
    Not really I can't afford it yet after my daily went wrong
    I was panicking that you'd be flogging it soon
    Whenever your ready let me know how much you want for it
    No worries. Do tou want it all repaired ready to fit or a lot cheaper in need of repair? Lol

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Has anybody or does anybody know of any mods to shorten the selector shaft on the RX8?
    its a pretty standard thing for the type 9 but not seen it done on the rx8 box.
    here is a very quick image of what I a mean:
    Original:

    to this:


    Any information appreciated.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    i was looking for the same idea , some on the aussie and kiwi rotary sites have done this when fitting rx7 boxes into rx3 , but there is a design diff between 7 and 8 boxes , 8 boxes seem to be a development of a miata box a differant series to the 7 fd boxes , i m still trying to find a conclusive answer to this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by madflow View Post
    i was looking for the same idea , some on the aussie and kiwi rotary sites have done this when fitting rx7 boxes into rx3 , but there is a design diff between 7 and 8 boxes , 8 boxes seem to be a development of a miata box a differant series to the 7 fd boxes , i m still trying to find a conclusive answer to this .
    Well im going to france this weekend for 2 weeks but when i get back if nobody can help i am going to split the box and do some cutting and sort some tig welding to see. I could do with it as far forward as I can get for the spitfire due to how far back i am putting the engine in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    No worries. Do tou want it all repaired ready to fit or a lot cheaper in need of repair? Lol

    I'll pm you mate
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    rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by robrs2 View Post
    Are you going to use a dust shield as well
    It may be possible to leave some of the internal metal of the plate to do this as I assume this will sit behind the flywheel

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Still waiting what's going on p9cyo you emailed to say it's been posted
    How many times you rang to say I'll have it
    Last Friday still no plate I think it's time for a
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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Mine took a month to come and to be honest it's not the best of fits.
    Bolted up to engine ok but quite sloppy on gearbox bolts.
    I ended up taking engine out , standing it on its end dropping box on top to get a feel for the input shaft being central.
    I dowelled my plate to the gearbox so when it goes back in I know the shaft will not be under any tension.
    The starter was a different matter. The holes are so far out it jams the starter against the flywheel.
    I don't know about other engines but if your using a 2.0L zetec you don't need the shaft extender for the spigot bearing that p9syco supplies. The counterbore in the crank is about 30mm deep and the bearing is only 20mm so if you only tap the bearing in flush with the end of the crank the input shaft goes in all the way.
    I only had to put a 2mm washer under the clutch fork fulcrum to get correct release bearing clearance so didn't use his slave cylinder relocation plate but I am using a retro Ford lightened flywheel and clutch so I don't know if that makes any difference or not!
    Now I'm ok with having to fettle a bit to get things correct but if your looking for a simple bolt up and forget job this is not it.
    A real shame as Phil's done all the leg work finding a box that fits and has fallen at the final hurdle with the fit of the plate.
    It needs to be dowelled to both engine and box to be sure of positive location.
    I think Freddy,s version should be better as he's having all his holes done by machine.
    Good luck.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Finished mine today and i have never been happier with the car! Giving here a pasting tomorrow around castle combe for rally day so we will see if the box is any good.






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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    I've also used that part of the gearbox to mount mine. I made up a new crossmember and used the type9 mount

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by davemk1 View Post
    I've also used that part of the gearbox to mount mine. I made up a new crossmember and used the type9 mount
    It's ideal mounta up great. I have used captive nuts in the strengthing mount and bolted everything to there. You can see here step by step.

    http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthre...276802&page=29

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Thanks for the info Dave if mine turns up hope it fits I'm strapping it to a yb lol
    Freddy carnt wait to see how it copes with a good spanking

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    Quote Originally Posted by longy View Post
    Thanks for the info Dave if mine turns up hope it fits I'm strapping it to a yb lol
    Freddy carnt wait to see how it copes with a good spanking
    Well it done 80 minutes on the track today ans 3 hours on the motorway and she is awesome. I was shifting down early today and the box just goes in to gear and the back end is tramping like hell and the box took it all. The diff on the other hand the diff is whining like a mother fucker.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Is that first gear useless and is second too long to pull away in?
    What sort of power,diff ratio and wheel/tyre combination do you have?

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Awsome lol sounds like u had a good time

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by davemk1 View Post
    Is that first gear useless and is second too long to pull away in?
    What sort of power,diff ratio and wheel/tyre combination do you have?
    1st isn't too bad on a 3.75 diff with 205/60/13" tyres i have 220 bhp and 205lbs/ft 2nd gear is a little long really but i can spin the tyres off the line and they start to grip by the time i come on cam. But it is still good if i pull of in second without bogging down.

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    Re: rx8 gearbox?

    Quote Originally Posted by longy View Post
    Awsome lol sounds like u had a good time
    It was brilliant. Here is the pm track time video.

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