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    Axle identification

    Hi, since I'm new to all this, I've been given an axle and told its a Solsbury item. It's for a Mk2 Escort but that's as much as I've been told. On top of that it's got rear discs but no calipars. How could I go about identifying it? I don't have pics at the minute either.
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    Re: Axle identification

    I don't personally know about any markings on the casing. But the first thing is does it have a rear cover? Then It could be an Salisbury (Atlas) but it could also be a Koln axle, which is generally not as strong as Atlas. But of course it would be a lot easier to identify with some photos...

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    Cheers mate and I hear you regarding the photos. As far as I remember it has the rear casing and it's LSD equipped too but again, I just need pictures. I just figured there may be some numbers or markings to help identify it.
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    Re: Axle identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Did Irl View Post
    Cheers mate and I hear you regarding the photos. As far as I remember it has the rear casing and it's LSD equipped too but again, I just need pictures. I just figured there may be some numbers or markings to help identify it.

    By the sounds of it, It is a atlas if it has an lsd. Does the rear cover look like this with the three equally spaced holes top and bottom.


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    Re: Axle identification

    From memory it does, I'm nearly sure it had the removable cover plate.
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    Re: Axle identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Did Irl View Post
    From memory it does, I'm nearly sure it had the removable cover plate.
    There are two with removable plates. A strong axle and a weak one. If it soesn't look the same as the picture about it will be the weaker axle.

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    Great, I'll get details and pics asap
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    Re: Axle identification

    There are 3 types of axle with removable cover plates most South African imports .....16 Sports etc come with a Borg Warner axle, BW69 if I remember right, they have a octagonal shaped cover.....as well as the Kholn an proper Atlas mentioned above, the Borg Warner axle is pretty decent but you struggle to find LSD's and parts for them.
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    Re: Axle identification

    Atlas koln and english
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Atlas koln banjo axle.jpg‎  


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    Re: Axle identification

    SA axle
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    Re: Axle identification

    So it appears to be a Koln Axle. Can anyone shed any light on what they are and if they're any good? I'm hoping to run Tarmac arches and 15s but is it gonna be too narrow?
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    Re: Axle identification

    Reputedly a weakly engineered atlas but more akin to an English. Lack of H/Duty parts, LSD's driveshafts etc. so not exactly a good performance upgrade!
    Wide and/or grippy tyres and you'll be twisting / breaking shafts and destroying diff's IMO.

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    Re: Axle identification

    Unfortunately I'd say its only got one good thing going for it. IMO.
    And thats that its a nice ratio, but other than that, nothing else...

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    It does have LSD in it but apparently its bent. I think it'll do for the time being.
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    Re: Axle identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Did Irl View Post
    It does have LSD in it but apparently its bent. I think it'll do for the time being.
    LSD for Koln axle is very very rare; check if it is not just a welded diff.

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    Re: Axle identification

    I will do. Thanks everyone!
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    Re: Axle identification

    Hi guys,

    I am in process of importing a MK2 Escort 1600 Sport from South Africa, and it has the below rear diff, which looks like the Borg Warner. Where can i buy a LSD for this? What do i search for?
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    Any help would be appreciated

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    Re: Axle identification

    as far as i know you wont get an lsd for it!

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    Re: Axle identification

    Yea, put quite simply, I think it's just not a good axle.
    Look for either an Atlas or an English axle, depending on what you plan to do with the car.
    Last edited by rallyrob; 25-06-2017 at 19:28.

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    Axle identification

    Sorry to hijack but what is this axle. Its on a mk1 escort mexico 1971

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    Re: Axle identification

    English as fitted to 99.9% of uk escorts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    English as fitted to 99.9% of uk escorts
    Oh ok. Just the picture above with the 3 axles says its a banjo. I have no knowledge of these things yet

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    Re: Axle identification

    english/banjo same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    english/banjo same thing
    Perfect thanks.

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    Re: Axle identification

    On the subject of axle's, sorry to but in, Is it possible to use the atlas axle out of a mk4 or mk5 Cortina as Capri axle's do not seem very common in Cornwall, thanks

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    Re: Axle identification

    i guess anything is possible, but the cortina axle has a different casing because it uses coil springs and location links

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    I think the internals are the same. The difference is the external appearance of the pigs head because it has the mounting points for the trailing arms on the top. And the tubes will have different mounts for the coil spring platforms too.

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    Re: Axle identification

    According to Bearingkitsco.uk there were two different axles fitted to the the Mk3 /4 and 5 Cortina's. One was the Koln type fitted to the smaller engine cars with some 2.0 and 2.3's fitted with the Atlas axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest_rallying View Post
    According to Bearingkitsco.uk there were two different axles fitted to the the Mk3 /4 and 5 Cortina's. One was the Koln type fitted to the smaller engine cars with some 2.0 and 2.3's fitted with the Atlas axle.
    that fits with my recollection, that only the bigger engined cars had the beefy axle

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    Ok that makes sense. My mate had 2.3 Mk5, that was defo an atlas. He got bored with it an put a 2.8 in it in then end. Tbh I never really noticed much difference. It was still a carbed engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrob View Post
    Ok that makes sense. My mate had 2.3 Mk5, that was defo an atlas. He got bored with it an put a 2.8 in it in then end. Tbh I never really noticed much difference. It was still a carbed engine.
    iirc the later cortina 2.3 were 116bhp and a carbed 2.8 was 132, so not a vast difference especially if the 2.8 was a bit tired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    iirc the later cortina 2.3 were 116bhp and a carbed 2.8 was 132, so not a vast difference especially if the 2.8 was a bit tired
    Ok yea that sounds about right then I suppose, an as you say Graham especially if it was a bit tired. Long time ago now, I cant remember how many miles to 2.8 had got on it. I didnt think there was anything in it really though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrob View Post
    Ok yea that sounds about right then I suppose, an as you say Graham especially if it was a bit tired. Long time ago now, I cant remember how many miles to 2.8 had got on it. I didnt think there was anything in it really though.
    saying that i remember from years ago before a mk5 cortina was old, i knew someone who swapped a 2.3 for a 2.8, then went back to the 2.3

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    Re: Axle identification

    Back to the axle thing again I also knew someone that had a 1.3 xflow mk4, so I presume that would've had a koln axle in it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrob View Post
    Back to the axle thing again I also knew someone that had a 1.3 xflow mk4, so I presume that would've had a koln axle in it...
    Correct

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