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    Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

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    I recently found this site while doing research for my new project, I have 1982 Mk 3 2.0s capri and a bmw M5 and am putting the V10 from the M5 into the capri.

    The spec of the car is going to be
    Capri Mk3 2.0s will original chassis but strengthened with an extended roll cage.
    BMW V10 with stand alone ecu
    7 speed gearbox from the M5 converted to manual clutch (if I can't achieve this I will fit the 6 speed manual from an M3)
    18 inch wheels 10wide all round (as I plan a 50/50 weight distribution)
    330mm discs all round with AP's
    Atlas axle with 4 link rear and some kind of side bracing (maybe watts but not sure yet)
    X pack arches (I bought a fibresports kit)
    Carbon roof (I will remove the metal roof panel and replace with a carbon one.

    I not planning on a retro look and intend to buy all new suspension etc, so i am fact going to start from a shell.... to that end the Capri I have bought was without an engine or gearbox or any nice suspension or axle part (had a cossie yb in it) so its a perfect blank canvas for me to start from

    Im hoping to get some advice on best suspension to go for, Ive spoken to quite a few people and I do get varying opinions on whats best... I do know I want the car to handle well on the road foremost as I already have a more aggressive track car and I want this one to be fun to drive around europe in on mammoth road trips etc

    Anyhow pics say more than words.



    Test fitted the 10x18 wheels I run on my other car and they fitted surprisingly well on the rear even though the car had been slammed by previous owner.




    They didn't fit on the front at all, as needed a large spacer and stuck out... no major worries as am fitting x pack arches so have extra 2 inches per side to play with, this is pic of 9inch wide front so I could fit this size if 10s simply won't work.



    M5 engine has been checked and will fit in the Capri engine bay... even cross members and steering rack looks like it MIGHT work without major mods.




    couldn't resist quick dummy up of the x pack arches lol


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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by andygtt View Post
    Hi All

    I recently found this site while doing research for my new project, I have 1982 Mk 3 2.0s capri and a bmw M5 and am putting the V10 from the M5 into the capri.

    The spec of the car is going to be
    Capri Mk3 2.0s will original chassis but strengthened with an extended roll cage.
    BMW V10 with stand alone ecu
    7 speed gearbox from the M5 converted to manual clutch (if I can't achieve this I will fit the 6 speed manual from an M3)
    18 inch wheels 10wide all round (as I plan a 50/50 weight distribution)
    330mm discs all round with AP's
    Atlas axle with 4 link rear and some kind of side bracing (maybe watts but not sure yet)
    X pack arches (I bought a fibresports kit)
    Carbon roof (I will remove the metal roof panel and replace with a carbon one.

    I not planning on a retro look and intend to buy all new suspension etc, so i am fact going to start from a shell.... to that end the Capri I have bought was without an engine or gearbox or any nice suspension or axle part (had a cossie yb in it) so its a perfect blank canvas for me to start from

    Im hoping to get some advice on best suspension to go for, Ive spoken to quite a few people and I do get varying opinions on whats best... I do know I want the car to handle well on the road foremost as I already have a more aggressive track car and I want this one to be fun to drive around europe in on mammoth road trips etc

    Anyhow pics say more than words.



    Test fitted the 10x18 wheels I run on my other car and they fitted surprisingly well on the rear even though the car had been slammed by previous owner.




    They didn't fit on the front at all, as needed a large spacer and stuck out... no major worries as am fitting x pack arches so have extra 2 inches per side to play with, this is pic of 9inch wide front so I could fit this size if 10s simply won't work.



    M5 engine has been checked and will fit in the Capri engine bay... even cross members and steering rack looks like it MIGHT work without major mods.




    couldn't resist quick dummy up of the x pack arches lol

    looks interesting will the engine actually fit in the hole with out too much work to the inner wings?

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Wow, what a project! You are very brave sir!
    My 2 cents worth which you are completely entitled to ignore. First, I'd use the BMW management. In fact, I'd take as much from the donor car as I could. I'm no electrics guru, but trying to wire a modern BMW motor and maybe gearbox to a different management system sounds like a one way trip to Unfinished Projectland. Also, fit the 7sp and leave it as it is for the same reason, or fit the 6sp manual. Is the manual a straight fit?
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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    The engine will fit without any mods to the inner wings
    Might not be the case with the firewall as I will need to work out weights and were the steering rack fits before I can decide that.

    The electronics on the BMW are way too complex to use in the capri, it measures everything from wishbone angles, wheel speed sensors, right down to bonnet latches etc, Id need absolutely everything from the M5 spliced into the capri for it to work.... I had quotes from companies that specialise in doing these kind of conversion and have done a number of them.... they wanted £6.5 to modify the existing BMW loom to run in another car, a complete standalone is £2k and has been done around 40 times so is well proven.
    So standalone it was

    7 speed I have is an SMG unit, its said that its not possible to use manually and stupid expensive to use as stand alone SMG... Im going to see if I can do a conversion as I have often been told that its impossible before only to find it was actually easy. Im not holding my breath though... the 6 speed bolts straight on and is only around 1k for second hand items so that is 100% my fall back plan.
    I therefore won't be spending any significant money trying to make the 7 speeder work.

    Im planning to take the engine out of the M5 and trial fit the engine in the capri over the weekend so hopefully it won't be too long before I know exactly what I am up against... its not a widely heavier engine than the V6 and probably on par with SB V8s that has been done plenty of times in the capri

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    That's good news with the loom, and you'll get good money selling the 7sp on. Fantastic project! Looking forward to the million pics I hope you'll be posting very soon
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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Fair play to you. Its nice to see something different done to a Capri. As already said, keep the pics coming

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    My mate is almost finished fitting a v10 to a z4 bow.you would think it was an easy enough conversion going from BMW to BMW,,,far from it...lol
    Even had to use a quickrack from an escort due to space or lack of as v10 has a strange sump on it with a channel for the rack to sit in.he also used stand alone ecu as well,which still causes problems.

    Good luck withyour project and get plenty pics

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Oh and keep the air boxes on the throttle bodies or you will have more problems....

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Nice. One thing worth noting is the oil pump location regards to the member. Then again if you're going for 50/50 you'll be behind it! Interesting project. Good motor choice bud! Yeah standalone will make it a lot easier!

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Looks like a cool project, ill be wathcing. post lots of updates

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Nice project

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Very cool!

    Funnily enough - I've got an M5 as a daily and a Capri (has an LS V8 in it) as a toy.



    Any measuring/details I can help with let me know.

    Oh - and don't suppose you're breaking the M5 the engine came out of are you?

    Cheers

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    You have impeccable taste :-)

    Yep will be breaking the M5... Ironically I put brand new tyres on the rear litterally 1 month before it came off the road, as you have one you will know rear tyres alone are over £750 for the pair lol.
    I've had a few sports cars which I have run as daily drivers, and the M5 was by far the most expensive to run on fuel and servicing... So worth it though, I made a new exhaust for it removing the rear silencers completely and I haven't heard a better sounding car... It was Epic.

    It's running this car that's made this engine my only choice for the Capri :-)

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    Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

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    FairPlay, if you have the engine already bought you are fairly well committed now.

    Does the vanos system on the V10 run the same way as it does on the v8's as in controlled by the oil pump and pressure as well as the electronics?

    I'm currently shoe horning another BMW V8 into an old Triumph, had to dry sump it and push the bulkhead back 6inches to make it work.

    Capri would have a deeper, flatter and longer engine bay tho! Best of luck with the swap! Brave man. Temperamental and highly strung enough engine in the M5!

    Maybe worth a chat with the Driftworks guys who did e46 m3 with V10 swap a few years tho.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    So little update.

    Have been researching the rules from DVLA about the legalities of the mods to ensure I don't end up on a Q plate when I swop the engine and I've been a little shocked about what I have found.

    Basically to legally retain the cars identity you have to have 8 points, 5 of these points MUST be the cars UNMODIFIED chassis, in this case the capris monocoque chassis.
    I knew this, however what I didn't know was that they consider any bulkhead or tunnel changes as major modifications and thus doing so you automatically loose the cars identity should DVLA find out or inspect the car.

    So the tunnel mods, 4 link kit and the carbon roof would all be considered major mods to the chassis by DVLA and mean the capris identity is lost.
    In truth they struggle to enforce this and thus don't catch lots of people who have done this to their cars, but changing the engine can lead to an inspection and thus its a risk to me and I've worried about it since I found out.

    I have found a legitimate solution, basically i have to accept the car will go through IVA, and then apply for an age related registration based on the M5 instead, as long as I make a new chasis (tubular cage with some Capri monocoque grafted in is ok) and use 2 major components from the M5 (engine, box, axle, suspension etc) this is fully legal.
    Seems a bit mad to me as the car will be newer than I previously planned, but I want the car to be fully legal and stand up to any government inspection.... It also means I will ditch the live axle and use the M5s one.

    Now I have to start planning how far I go with the chassis, I'm actually considering a full tubular chassis and make moulds of the carpi screen surrounds and doors etc so entire cars body is carbon.... This is offset by fact I won't have to have the Capri stripped and blasted along with getting rid of any rust I have found.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    This would affect nearly every rally mk1 escort on the road. surely you just need to inform them of the engine change

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by wildo105e View Post
    This would affect nearly every rally mk1 escort on the road. surely you just need to inform them of the engine change
    Correct, however it seems they are clamping down and there is 'reasonable' chance that declaring the engine change would trigger them asking for an inspection of the car and it being stripped of its V5 and being forced to do an IVA.

    DVLA don't have the resources or motivation to police this policy (thats been around for 30 years), its just that recently there are starting to be instances when they find out and enforce it... I'm guessing its when you piss the police off or something and they effectively throw the book at you.

    I've now checked the rules carefully, and what I had planned would cause an issue if they inspected the car... i am not prepared to take a chance considering the money that will be thrown at this project.

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    Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Fair enough, never thought about it before.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Just w plate it? Atleast then it'll be done correctly. It's still (visually) a Capri! Give a shit what the plate starts with! It'd be a smart car mate.

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    Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Interesting read on dvla information!

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by andygtt View Post
    So little update.

    Have been researching the rules from DVLA about the legalities of the mods to ensure I don't end up on a Q plate when I swop the engine and I've been a little shocked about what I have found.

    Basically to legally retain the cars identity you have to have 8 points, 5 of these points MUST be the cars UNMODIFIED chassis, in this case the capris monocoque chassis.
    I knew this, however what I didn't know was that they consider any bulkhead or tunnel changes as major modifications and thus doing so you automatically loose the cars identity should DVLA find out or inspect the car.

    So the tunnel mods, 4 link kit and the carbon roof would all be considered major mods to the chassis by DVLA and mean the capris identity is lost.
    In truth they struggle to enforce this and thus don't catch lots of people who have done this to their cars, but changing the engine can lead to an inspection and thus its a risk to me and I've worried about it since I found out.

    I have found a legitimate solution, basically i have to accept the car will go through IVA, and then apply for an age related registration based on the M5 instead, as long as I make a new chasis (tubular cage with some Capri monocoque grafted in is ok) and use 2 major components from the M5 (engine, box, axle, suspension etc) this is fully legal.
    Seems a bit mad to me as the car will be newer than I previously planned, but I want the car to be fully legal and stand up to any government inspection.... It also means I will ditch the live axle and use the M5s one.

    Now I have to start planning how far I go with the chassis, I'm actually considering a full tubular chassis and make moulds of the carpi screen surrounds and doors etc so entire cars body is carbon.... This is offset by fact I won't have to have the Capri stripped and blasted along with getting rid of any rust I have found.

    Don't tell the dvla just your insurance company. That will be fine. Otherwise all the old cars would be on a Q plate. The less you tell the dvla the better your life will be. Lol.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    No such thing as a Q plate anymore
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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Very interesting project, never heard of an other V10 Capri... Will definitely watch out for further updates.
    I guess you have done a lot of research concerning the ECU, but as far as I know aftermarket ECUs don't work all that well with this engine due to it's complexity. Especially the double VANOS system which varies both intake and exhaust cam phasing will be a big problem. A while back a friend of mine put a S54B32 engine out of a E46 M3 CSL into his E30 and had the same problem that no one could provide an ECU capable of dealing with the VANOS system. In the end he was able to get his ECU modified by a guy working for BMW but otherwise he would have had to run the engine without the VANOS system and would have lost most of the low-end torque. But maybe things changed in recent years, I'll keep my fingers crossed!

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyPolak View Post
    No such thing as a Q plate anymore
    How does it work now?

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    according to DVLA Q plate still exists.

    Quote from DVLA website below:

    8. Radically altered vehicles.

    Get a ‘Q’ registration number

    You won’t be able to keep your vehicle’s original registration number if one of the following applies:

    it has fewer than 8 points
    it has a second-hand or altered chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame
    there’s evidence that 2 vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie ‘cut and shut’)

    Keep the original registration number

    Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Ok I'll re-word what I said

    previously kit cars and modified cars got Q plates now days kit cars have to meet type approval and then they get an age related plate once they have an SVA.

    Q plates are only issued for cars where the age or identity is in question (which is not the case with this car) and I doubt you would find a car with a newly issued Q plate these days I've not seen a newly issued one but
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    Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Keeping me awake at night this 😳 so once you have the M5 reg assigned and it looks more like a Capri can you then transfer the Capri reg to it as a "private plate" type transfer or is the M5 region no transferable ?

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyPolak View Post
    Ok I'll re-word what I said

    previously kit cars and modified cars got Q plates now days kit cars have to meet type approval and then they get an age related plate once they have an SVA.

    Q plates are only issued for cars where the age or identity is in question (which is not the case with this car) and I doubt you would find a car with a newly issued Q plate these days I've not seen a newly issued one but
    I could be wrong
    Well depends what you mean 'previously'... the 'current' rules have been in place 30 years... lots of cars still get a Q plates (kit cars, imports, special 1 offs etc), and the plate is completely unrelated to type approval.

    Originally I was trying to avoid IVA (what you call type approval), basically if you modify the monocoque in any way you technically trigger requiring an IVA, change the engine then upgrade the axle and suspension and you trigger an IVA... etc etc.
    Of cause this ONLY applies if DVLA find out or you tell them, I'm sinking a lot of money into the project so am not prepared to take risks like that as I simply don't want a Q plate.

    I was aware of all the rules, however I thought/assumed some mods to the Monocoque were allowed (after all thousands of people have done them), however in recent years they have clarified this to be any modifications and specifically said cutting tunnel or bulkhead to fit a larger engine would not be allowed.... I didn't sleep well when I found this out as Im sure the clamp downs are going to get stricter rather than more lenient.

    In truth Im glad I discovered this now rather than after I had fitted the engine etc.... now I can up the spec build exactly what I want without compromise... I only have to accept an IVA test and jump the hoops to get the car registered on the M5 donor car.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Thought I'd post up a few pics of my V10 project, just to let you see the physical size of these engines.
    As you'll see it's rather large unit, I've fitted the E92 M3 6speed gearbox and use M5 clutch setup with a bit of tweaking. Not sure what a cologne V6 weights but V10 comes in at 241kgs. Here's a wee pic of it installed in my Z4

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Awesome to find someone who has done a conversion with the engine, did you convert to manual dipstick?

    I think I will end up using the M3 box same as you, however I want to see if I can do anything at all with the 7 speeder that I already have first.

    bet that z4 goes well now :-)

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    2 great projects,

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Hi Andy. Yes had to design a dip stick set up, it sits nearside rear of the sump. Working out oil level is interesting tho! Think the 7speed will work out to be a real headache. Sell it on, you should make enough to buy low mileage 6speed. I run Tornado 2 ecu with wiring loom converted to suit, max of 14 wires to tie in to make it run. Actually you only need 8 to fire it up. Best £2K I ever spent.
    That last pic was just before June when all the body panels were away for painting. I'm busy assembling it now so it's still not been for a run yet. I've had it round the block to check over all the drive train tho.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Here's a pic I found of dip stick I made up. and a couple of pics of body being assembled.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    I might well be using the M3 box like you, just want to see what I think will be involved with using it... I will use the clutch with a pedal regardless so its just a matter of seeing if I can make it change gear somehow, Im thinking of using the SMG system hydraulics but with a different method of activation... Im certainly not going to spend any cash trying and fist sign its going to be too complex it will be on ebay and a M3 one sourced lol

    Very glad to hear your pleased with the Tornedo as Im planning on using the same ecu, did you go the extra and also have the g sensors for the oil pumps or stick with the 'stock' configuration... I have a friend also using the same engine etc and he's planning to not bother with the G sensors.

    Very much looking forward to seeing your car on the road and hearing how it goes with the ecu... do the pictures above show your car on corner weights?

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    I take it you'll be fitting a larger transmission tunnel as these boxes are rather large, especially with the hydraulics fitted on top? I'm running the G sensor as its plug and play and costs £90, don't see the point of having them and not using them. We've hooked up the laptop and had a play around with the software, way too many toys to setup. Tweaking the fly by wire throttle to be super quick and down shift blip is very trick, and if I require a power hike from boosting it covers that.
    Even if I do say so myself these engines sound very impressive when the cats are removed and a custom exhaust fitted.
    These pics were when it was all mocked up and system was fabricated. It's since been stripped and fully rebuilt and looking very clean and tidy.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    What's your thoughts on rear axle for your motor? Going to be a fair bit of power heading it's way. Fuel system will need to be custom, and needs to run 5bar static pressure with no return line on fuel rail. Have you thought about budget on the full project? I'm way over what I calculated on mine, now sitting at £23k including car at £6k.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    You no finished it yet Mr.w???
    Lol

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by mk1cosworth View Post
    You no finished it yet Mr.w???
    Lol
    Hoping to play around with can bus signals this weekend and capture them from another motor. Technically BMW would consider it theft, but let's just say I'm borrowing them. They can have them back once finished with. If it works we could be transplanting their engines into anything.

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    Re: Capri Mk 3 project with 550bhp V10 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie.w View Post
    What's your thoughts on rear axle for your motor? Going to be a fair bit of power heading it's way. Fuel system will need to be custom, and needs to run 5bar static pressure with no return line on fuel rail. Have you thought about budget on the full project? I'm way over what I calculated on mine, now sitting at £23k including car at £6k.
    I have a £31k budget, however I already have the M5 so the engine and box etc are on top of that.

    Fuel wise I was thinking of using 2 044's, I run this on the Noble with 4 bar static so well over 5 bar on boost so I has hoping to stick with what I know.

    Cant see any reason not to use the M5 axle, there is talk of it being some flashy electronic diff, however I believe its just a normal plate LSD and thus perfect for me I need to use 2 major components from the M5 to register the car now (I won't be using any of the original car now, just taking moulds off of it were I need).
    I might go as far as to use all the suspension and steering from the M5, I will only do this IF the geometry works. I have scratch built before and modified the noble extensively so Im not afraid to make my own suspension, its calculating the geometry that works that keeps me awake lol.

    Very comforting to hear your comments about the ECU, I was worried it wouldn't be as good as they claimed.

    I ran the M5 as mu daily for a few years, one day I decided to remove the silencers (4 of them) and stick straight through pipes out back instead to see what it sounded like... I liked it a lot, was noisy on idle an when on heavy throttle, but was quiet on the motorway when driving normally... I made my own tail pipes with a mini silencer in each to dull the idle noise and enjoyed the car even more

    In fact I have not heard a better sounding car than it sounded with this exhaust (the aventador sounded just as good, but not better to me).
    I NEED that noise in my capri

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