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    Mk2 escort brakes????

    Some may have seen in the intro section i recently got a mk2 escort,

    having had had abit of a look through the car and at some bits that's come with it I am beginning to think the bloke I got it off don't really have a idea what was goin on, things like he's fit spacers to the rear Huns but only put 2 studs in and the others are in the boot.


    its it's come with some front brakes to fit, don't know what size the front disc's are but he said there Capri 2.8 brakes, having had alook today at Bolton them on the bolt on the strut but require a 6mm spacer to Center them and clear the hub, from what I've read on google and here the Capri 2.8 brakes would need a spacer?? To fit a bigger disc?

    he also gave me a set of xr3i (front I think) clippers for the rear but useless as there's no handbrake. Which is the best way to go for the rear as there's nothing at all at present, I have some discs but would need longer studs on the Hub to use them.

    im planing of fitting a bias pedal box as nothing original is there besides the pedal.

    i thought I'd taken a picture on my phone but I carnt find it now.

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    For the front discs, Capri 2.8i units should go straight on; no spacers, washers or anything else - if you're got the original Escort mk1/mk2 M16 calipers you'll need a spacer kit to space them out to fit the wider, vented discs:

    http://www.burtonpower.com/m16-brake...cs-brk008.html

    It's a well tried upgrade, so there shouldn't really be any problems - unless someone has fitted a non-standard brake disc or you have perhaps a different hub or strut to normal.

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    Mk2 escort brakes????

    The calipers also have a spacer for each mounting bolt to centralise the spaced caliper.

    Well mine do

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    The struts are not the original type I don't think, there is no spacer needed to fit the disc just to centralise the caliper, it has 13" minlite wheels and there's maybe 10mm clearance between the caliper and wheel,

    What wildo says sound along the right lines,

    Here's the strut,

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    I think there possibly the same as these on eBay item number 252056742036

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    mk3 escort calipers were a popular rear disc conversion item years ago before the compulsory cable requirement was brought in for mot, seen many a pad with a lug welded on to it for a cable to attach to just for show purposes

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    a cable/mechanical method of workingthe handbrake has always been an mot requirement, its just if you go far enough back they didnt check cable operation during the test.

    it might be somewhat differenrt with one man testing in as much as theres no way for one man to work the brake and inspect cables at the same time

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    The struts are not the original type I don't think, there is no spacer needed to fit the disc just to centralise the caliper, it has 13" minlite wheels and there's maybe 10mm clearance between the caliper and wheel,
    Yep, sounds like Capri 2.8 vents to me. Presuming your calipers aren't spaced already, you just need that kit (they usually come with the washers for the caliper mounts too). The other options are spaced Austin Princess 4 pots, or a modern M16 style caliper direct replacement like the Compbrake or Wilwood (designed to be the same size, fit the same mount points and use the same size disc, just modern and lighter). Presuming you want to retain the Capri 2.8 style discs and all the normal mounting points (its standard off the shelf stuff that is easily sourced, which is a big plus point!).

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    As I don't need to space the caliber away to suit the disc is it possible to just use a 6mm washer / spacer and some longer bolts to suit?

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    I've used my dads sand blaster to clean them up and they are type 16, here's a befor and after, I'm going to paint them red soon either tonite or tomorrow.


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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    I've used my dads sand blaster to clean them up and they are type 16, here's a befor and after, I'm going to paint them red soon either tonite or tomorrow.

    They look like the p16 calliper not the m16 calliper. They were used on the Granada and later cars.

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    These are m16 callipers


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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Here's some more pictures, if they are the suspected type are they good? Bad? Avrage? Suitable to stop my mk2 track car?







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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    Here's some more pictures, if they are the suspected type are they good? Bad? Avrage? Suitable to stop my mk2 track car?






    I hear they have a bigger pad area than the m16 calliper but they are harder to get performance pads for than the m16. Try and find some pads before rebuilding them. What sort of power are you running in yourtrack car? I ran 180bhp on m16 callipers and vented disks with 1155mintex pads and that was the limit. I went to a 200bhp motor and they didn't give any confidence at all. So i jumped straight to the daddy of brakes and went to the AP radial kit to fit under 13" wheels and i still can't brake late enough to get the full use out of the brakes. Sometimes i have to get back on the throttlebefore the corner as i have broke too early again. Willwoods are a good mid field between the ford brakes and ap's though. It is all about the budget and use of the car.

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    I hear they have a bigger pad area than the m16 calliper but they are harder to get performance pads for than the m16. Try and find some pads before rebuilding them. What sort of power are you running in yourtrack car? I ran 180bhp on m16 callipers and vented disks with 1155mintex pads and that was the limit. I went to a 200bhp motor and they didn't give any confidence at all. So i jumped straight to the daddy of brakes and went to the AP radial kit to fit under 13" wheels and i still can't brake late enough to get the full use out of the brakes. Sometimes i have to get back on the throttlebefore the corner as i have broke too early again. Willwoods are a good mid field between the ford brakes and ap's though. It is all about the budget and use of the car.
    It's a 2lt pinto on twin 40 with newmans rally/ sprint cam I think it is with a big valve head, don't know what power but I doubt it will be 180 and over, they came with a brand new set of minted 1155 pads, I can see that on them I'll try find a full part number off them.

    I ran 1155's on my 106 Rallye running bike carbs at 165bhp, only problem I had was I cracked a brembo disc at to rockingham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    It's a 2lt pinto on twin 40 with newmans rally/ sprint cam I think it is with a big valve head, don't know what power but I doubt it will be 180 and over, they came with a brand new set of minted 1155 pads, I can see that on them I'll try find a full part number off them.

    I ran 1155's on my 106 Rallye running bike carbs at 165bhp, only problem I had was I cracked a brembo disc at to rockingham.
    Weird me too! I was for ever cracking disks

    http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...t=53212&page=3

    They were awesome pads though! You will be fine with you set up but try it seams you have everything to give it a go.

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Here's a few of mine, I was a member of the rallyeregister my user name was warrior on there as well,








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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    Here's a few of mine, I was a member of the rallyeregister my user name was warrior on there as well,








    Very nice you must have been on there after i left when i bought an escort around 5 years ago. My mrs used to run a 150bhp bike carb'd 8v as a daily. You can imagine what that was like to keep going. The 106's had to go ford some classic ford metal for the both of us. Too many gearboxes/clutches ans driveshafts. Lol.

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    I had a 106 rallye before my escorts. Had a 205 rallye as well. I was also on the rallye register, probably about 5 years ago too. Must be the natural progression from peugeot to ford

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    I joined thecrallyeregiste register 9 years ago, and sold my Rallye about 4/5 years ago

    Must be the way forward

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    We were probably all members at the same time. Cracking cars. I had a mint original red S1

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig89 View Post
    We were probably all members at the same time. Cracking cars. I had a mint original red S1
    And lukem30 switched to an escort after his rallye. Rwd for the win guys. The mrs now has a capri and she has never looked back even though the 106 was much faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    And lukem30 switched to an escort after his rallye. Rwd for the win guys. The mrs now has a capri and she has never looked back even though the 106 was much faster.
    It's not always about speed, it's about the smile it puts on your face when you drive it, although speed definitely helps,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post
    It's not always about speed, it's about the smile it puts on your face when you drive it, although speed definitely helps,
    That's for sure for the mrs. She's weird she has always dreamt of owning a capri since she was a kid. Lol i moved to an escort because you can wedge any engine you want in them really and they are rwd

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    Re: Mk2 escort brakes????

    Whislt preping my landrover 90 challenge truck for this weekend I is the front brakes off, and I noticed the bolt spacing look similar so I measured it and they are 90mm which is the same as the escort? Is it?

    Anyway if they are I have a spare axle with a set of 4 pots on so going to have alook to see if they will fit, worth a shot for nowt, already looKed and I can get performance pads

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