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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

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    Do you need anything else Freddy?
    No just need to get a proper test plate made up and get someone to offer it up to the engine.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    how is the test plate progress going?

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    how is the test plate progress going?
    i've had a week off this week but i will get in it and have it finished by the weekend. Sorry about the delay

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    i've had a week off this week but i will get in it and have it finished by the weekend. Sorry about the delay
    thats great and everyone needs a holiday, Sounds like payment time. PM me the details and i will sort you the bank transfer

    cannot wait to make further progress.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    How did weekend progress go then freddy?

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    How did weekend progress go then freddy?
    Got the plate here just need to drill and tap it and offer it up to the engine my friend has. Nearly there.


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    Got the plate here just need to drill and tap it and offer it up to the engine my friend has. Nearly there.


    This one should be spot on now and if it is will be the first one for sale. I won't take any money off anyone untill the platesare 100% right and i have one to send out the next day. That way there is no dissapointed people who are short of money and a product.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Any news on when the Duratec one will be started?

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by LAWRENCEM View Post
    Any news on when the Duratec one will be started?

    i haven't sorry i have 4 designs i need to get up and running, then i can sort a duratec one. I need to get some money back on these other 4 first.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by freddy686868 View Post
    This one should be spot on now and if it is will be the first one for sale. I won't take any money off anyone untill the platesare 100% right and i have one to send out the next day. That way there is no dissapointed people who are short of money and a product.
    This is excellent. I really cannot wait to get it so I can get on with my project. I find myself checking for posts constantly. As soon as you have it ready let me know, I have put the money aside for this so there are no hold ups.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    This is excellent. I really cannot wait to get it so I can get on with my project. I find myself checking for posts constantly. As soon as you have it ready let me know, I have put the money aside for this so there are no hold ups.
    All i can say is thanks for waiting! I have been ages but i hope it will be worth it. Not much longer now.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Test plate no 2 tested today. Looks good just need to move 3 holes and get 2 cut bigger to make life when machining.


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Any more updates freddy? any time scales on when you can ship?

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    Any more updates freddy? any time scales on when you can ship?

    Right this has gone on long enough now. I am going to get my arse in gear and say the plates will be finished a week wednesday ready to post out. So the puma/zetec se, final xe plates and the v6 2.8i/2.9 cosworth BOA/BOB plates will all be done. I had a rally to do next week but it is cancelled so i have plenty of time on my hands to get this completed now.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    if they are getting finished next week just send me a PM for payment details and i will sort payment now so you can ship as soon as they are ready

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by retrosleeper View Post
    if they are getting finished next week just send me a PM for payment details and i will sort payment now so you can ship as soon as they are ready
    Missed the deadline but i have had the drawings back today off my cad cam man and an urgent email has been sent to the laser cutters with the files attatched. Hopefully i can get them finished on the weekend and sent out monday. All on the cutters now really. Again i m relly sorry for the delay it isn't my fault for once though. Lol.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Can you send me a PM with costs (incl. delivery).

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

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    Can you send me a PM with costs (incl. delivery).

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    Pm'd you.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Did you get chance to get them finished?

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

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    Did you get chance to get them finished?
    They will be done wednesday now.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Boom. They will be ready to send out thursday morning chaps. If you want one give me a shout i have made 5 so far.


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    All sorted lads.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Had a spare hour so had a quick play at making a bracket to convert the RX8 box to cable using the existing arm rather than butchering the bellhousing and fitting the Type 9 one. I have a fair bit of room inside my tunnel so I think this may be an easier way than converting my cable clutch on the Type 9 to hydraulic.

    Basic idea is to add a bracket at the split line and use either a sierra long clutch cable or may need a bespoke speedy cables one but use this to pull the RX8 arm to release the clutch. The only issues is the length of the cable as it needs to go rearward, loop over the top of the box, come forward and loop back into the clutch cable tube in the bulkhead, big letter S.

    So, here's a couple of initial pics, bracket may need bending back a bit to get the angle right but will do this once in place. All comments gratefully received.

    Simple bracket, needs a bit of refining,shaping but look OK



    On box, I know it is not the right cable but you get the idea, will need to slot the arm to get the cable end in.

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    Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    I'm thinking about doin this on mine when I get chance :-) I've got Sierra cosy cable which is very. Long goes along the rad and back to the fork on other side
    Let's hope it works but may pull the fork too much maybe ?


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quick Q's for freddy.

    Just looking at putting my RX8 / Puma 1.7 Zetec SE in my Anglia over the next few weeks and did a trial fit of the adaptor plate from you.

    All fits fine and the holes line up great, thanks.

    Couple of quick questions -

    Can i assume that the plate bolts to the engine from the engine side and the gearbox from the gearbox side using the threaded holes in the plate (idiot questions but just checking).
    Also, do the bolts need to be exactly the right length as the engine bolt hole at 7o'clock is obscured by the gearbox mating surface, most others seem to have clearance inside the bell housing.
    Don't suppose you have a list of the length of bolts that I need ?
    Finally, I am assuming I will need to chop the bellhousing to fit the starter motor as it looks like it will foul it at the moment.

    Thanks in advance for any help provided.



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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Not sure why I can't edit the post above ???

    Anyway - final one - anyone got any ideas about the easiest way to cover up the starter hole, the round pass through and the long hole on the opposite side to the clutch arm ? is is just a case of ally sheet and tapped holes in the bell housing ?
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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quote Originally Posted by ugg10 View Post
    Quick Q's for freddy.

    Just looking at putting my RX8 / Puma 1.7 Zetec SE in my Anglia over the next few weeks and did a trial fit of the adaptor plate from you.

    All fits fine and the holes line up great, thanks.

    Couple of quick questions -

    Can i assume that the plate bolts to the engine from the engine side and the gearbox from the gearbox side using the threaded holes in the plate (idiot questions but just checking).
    Also, do the bolts need to be exactly the right length as the engine bolt hole at 7o'clock is obscured by the gearbox mating surface, most others seem to have clearance inside the bell housing.
    Don't suppose you have a list of the length of bolts that I need ?
    Finally, I am assuming I will need to chop the bellhousing to fit the starter motor as it looks like it will foul it at the moment.

    Thanks in advance for any help provided.




    I'm sprry but i can't answer ypur questions on the bolt sizes on this conversion i haven't actually done the conversion. The best thing to do is put the bolt in and grid it flat or take a little off the flange when the bolt comes through. With the starter i normally grip out the bellhousing untill it clears the starter.



    Also with the rx8 starter possition i have just left it open but you can cover it if you like.

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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Quick Update on progress on my Puma 1.7 / RX8 install.

    gearbox ground to clear starter - note starter and plate are both tapped so you need to drill out the starter mounting holes however one of the starter holes does not have enough room to put a standard bolt through (didi not try cap hear but may do later) so currently help on by top and bottom bolt which should be fine.


    On engine


    All bolted up (ish, forgot to order the counter dunk m10 x 25 bolts so final assembly will have to wait).


    First go at a clutch cable bracket, this is a bout as small as I can go, will get it fitted in the car and see if I can go taller and also with a bit of angle in it to get the cable straight with the arm. note this is a stock escort mk2 cable, since the photo I have cut a slot in the arm to get the cable through and it fits well.


    Hopefully tomorrow I will try and get it in the car to do a trial fit and work out how I am going to support the gearbox.

    Anyone know what the thread is on the two studs on the bottom of the gearbox - looks like it is around m14x1.5 ?
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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Looking good just need to get my engine out and start mine

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    Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Any pics of how cable slots on fork cheers :-)


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Just cut a slot in the end of the arm, will get a pic up later.
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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Slot is just wide enough to pass the cable through, the metal end fixing is wider than that so should not jump out plus the clutch cable is always under a little bit of tension so should be OK I think.






    As you can see i will definitely have to put a bend in the bracket to get it running without an angle so the cable does not wear.

    Also found these guys on ebay who will make the escort clutch cable to length so when I have some dimensions I will probably email them.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2610362354...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    or Burton do this cable which is expensive but may to the job

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    Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Any body thought how there gonna run a speedo with this box


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    I'm running a ETB digidash lite, was using the Ford Puma encoder on a revotec Type 9 adapter but will revert back to the ETB two magnets stuck to the prop shaft / diff flange + pickup. As i am not planning to use the rear rubber mount I may put the bracket for the pick up onthe two bolts that the mount uses.

    What car and dash are you running, there are plenty of electronic speedo's that use a magnetic pickup, even seen push bike ones used on kit cars !

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    Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Had a bike one on there but bit tachy lol
    May get a gps speedo maybe



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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    You could always clip your phone to the dash and use an app ?
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    Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    I've got speedometer app already as gearing is way out
    Just waiting for t5 box to give up so can swap it over


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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    AND IT'S IN !

    Only held on by a couple of bolts until I order a full new set and the rear mount needs sorting but it is in and it fits -

    Had to grind off the side lug at the rear as I have some strange gear box mounts for a type 9 (see later photos) -



    Looks like I will have room to extend the clutch cable mount so it is in line with the clutch arm (which is a bit tight but should be OK as the engine and gearbox are fairly well mounted on rubber bobbins).

    On temporary rear mount



    Gear stick looks like it is in the right place



    So, jobs to do -

    Remake the clutch cable bracket longer and at an angle to match the clutch arm
    Measure up and get a quote for a new cable
    Make up a rear mount, my first plan was to use the two studs under the gearbox now it is in in the rear mount )when removed) lines up well with a cross member so will use the Cortina type 9 mount I have an make up brackets and a cross member to fit.

    Will keep you posted when it is fully installed.
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    Re: Zetec SE, Sigma, Duratec 1.6 to RX8 gearbox

    Are you using the rx8 prop

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