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    Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    So, we're starting to think about our next project, or, more accurately, finishing one of our first.

    This 1966 105e came in to my dads ownership some 30 years ago from another family member and we've had it ever since. It started out as a dark blue non-Deluxe saloon and had a few alterations over the years that probably sounded good at the time!

    First off, my dad had the great idea to chop the back off and turn it in to a pickup, I think he was hoping that it would have made a good promotion for his garage. To be fair, he made a pretty good job; retaining the slant of the rear screen and moving it forward to just behind the front seats. The original idea was to have an open load bay as a mini pick up, but I think we might change that.
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    The front end was also changed from the steering box to a full mk2 Escort based set up - cross member, track control arms, struts and steering rack. The engine bay was also cut out slightly to fit a 1600 crossflow and a Type-9. We actually had it running at one point, though never on the road.

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    In the interior it's mostly unchanged from original, though it's stripped out. A bulkhead was added just behind the front seats to form the back of the 'cab' section. The window and surround is the original saloon item moved forward.

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    Here's a view of the back. My dad was originally planning a pick up style load bed, but we're now thinking about having it covered with a long boot lid (hinged at the cab end, not the rear as it currently is now), so it becomes more of a 'coupe' than a pickup.
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    So the plan as we're thinking right now is:
    • Pull the car back out and in to the garage and make sure it's all still safe and strong - it was all done back then, but some of the panels were only primed so are showing surface rust, but, as you can see in the wheel/strut shot, it's sound under it all.
    • Fit wide arches, either mk1 Escort bubbles, modified to suit, or from Deville.
    • Convert the Escort mk2 struts to adjustable coilovers. Probably Gaz units.
    • Princess 4-pots and 2.8i Capri vented disks (both from my mk1 Escort) and extended Escort alloy hubs.
    • Fit a 2.0 XE and 45DHLA's (again, from my mk1 Escort).
    • Mappable ignition (might try Megajolt, been a few years since I gave it a go).
    • Rear axle, not sure yet - probably at least English, but possibly Atlas, depending on how wide we need to go based on the arches.
    • Axle location mods - A-frame or similar, and some way of fitting some modern gas struts.
    • Tub the rear arches.
    • Wide Minilite style wheels, at least 8", but we're not sure on the size yet... 13" or 15"...
    The front end was slightly modified by my dad years ago - the original grill was removed and small insert used instead - so were the sidelight/indicator aperatures, as they were rotten. So we need to work out some neat looking indicators that will just fit on the front somewhere.

    I'm trying to convince my dad to go with a deep aubergine purple colour, replace the chrome trim and perhaps gold or silver Minilites... but he's not yet convinced and is teasing me by saying he's going to paint over the chrome!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Good Luck with this project guys, i somehow think you'll need a bit, (of luck)

    Anything is doable.

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    cool ... i like something different....did my old 911 in bmw purple..i liked it....keep the pics coming cheers mark

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    another to watch

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Well it's now out of the little shed and in the big garage!

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    Dad has been busy, fixing up some bodged repairs someone did probably 30 or 40 years ago and taking back loads of filler. He's already cut out the drivers floor, the tunnel and the bulkhead and ordered a new big tunnel, a floor section and is in the middle of fabricating the new bulkhead:

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    Dad's not too sure what he's going to do with the 'pick up' area yet - I think we're both thinking along the same lines; probably extend the boot back to the rear window... it's going to take a bit of fabrication work to put it together though.

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    With the engine bay I've managed to convince him that we should take the distributor off the XE lump and go electronic ignition instead - meaning he doesn't need to take another 5" from the bulkhead he's making. He doesn't like spending money though, so it was hard to convince him to go that way It's surprising just how much smaller the Anglia engine bay is than my Escort though!

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    More progress with the engine bay and tunnel:

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Looking good

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    A few more repairs!

    A couple of little patches needed underneath, as well as cutting out floor sections to fit some new repair panels (which were not very good quality ....)

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    Overall, it's not bad looking. Once the repair patches are done, we're planning on giving the entire underbody a coat of rust preventative, then etch prime it.

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    The spare wheel well is also going to come out, then start looking to do prep for rear axle mods - probably a Milton A-frame system and vertical shock mounts. For something that hasn't really been rebuilt before I'm quite surprised at how solid it still is; one or two bits of rot that needed cutting out, but surprisingly good. I can never remember it being used on the road; my grandad used to have it in his garage for as long as I can remember - and he got it from his brother! I bet it's over 30 years since it was used....

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    A couple more patches to the under side - the floor is almost done now:

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    The Anglebox now has a floor again, all the rear chassis repairs are done, and the new tunnel and bulkhead is fitted:

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    A few more welds needed for the bulkhead to be finished, but that's pretty much it for the repairs and new sections now. I'm still quite impressed as to how well it has held up over the past 30 years or so, having been pretty much left to stand.

    Dad's latest quandry is what to do with the arches. He want to fit an English axle for wider track, I say a set of mk1 bubbles, but he likes the idea of mk2 tarmac arches!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    good stuff and as you say suprisingly solid

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    Cheers Graham, yeah, it's looking good. I think dad is regretting ever chopping it though!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Dad finished the last of the welding in the engine bay today and is now starting to think about running gear - we've got a mk2 Escort English axle casing and several sets of half shafts, but no diff units.

    I'm trying to work out what ratio diff and wheel/tyre combination we need to go for, as with the arch work planned we'll probably need the right wheels to mock things up.

    So, car will have the XE from my Escort, running (initially) 45DHLA's and probably megajolt for ignition, but standard internally other than ARP rod bolts, fitted to a Type 9 box. He wants to use it as a general fast road car and have a reasonable cruising speed.

    I'm thinking, for ease of finding one, a 3.89:1 ratio diff and 205/50x15 wheels and tyres. That will do 22mph/1000rpm in top, but should still be reasonably nippy in (half of!) an Anglia, as well as reasonably cheap tyres. Anyone else with an XE in an old Ford, what's your thoughts on it running with that combination - I can't really imagine it, as I ran it in front of a 4.1:1 cwp for track days, so I've no idea how well it would pull on the road.
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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Great project, wish i had it in me to build something similar

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Quick update - dad bought an A-frame kit and vertical shock mount kit from Milton; very nice pieces of kit. He's on with fitting the brackets to the body now and is then looking to get the underside of the car primed and undersealed in the next few weeks.

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    Super cool needs a mad 80s paint job and arse up stance

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Latest update is the Milton A-frame and rear shock mount kits are fitted and the Escort axle is fitted, along with the original Anglia multi-leaf springs. I must say that it's looking really well!

    The rear track is now enormous compared to the original tiny Anglia axle ... Escort bubble arches are on the cards, along with 7" wide rims at the very least. At the moment we're trying to work out what to do with the front suspension. We're in half a mind to change the non-RS Escort struts to coilovers ourselves, along with adjustable inserts and lowered springs, but we're just not sure what size damper body to go with, nor what spring rating/length to choose either.

    We reckon on it costing something like:

    - £0 : Escort mk2 struts (already own non-RS struts with cast steering arms)
    - £170 : pair of Gaz adjustable inserts
    - £50 : pair of threaded coilover tubes and adjuster rings
    - £100 : pair of eccentric Escort top mounts
    - £110 : pair of adjustable Escort TCA's
    - £30 : pair of 2.25" springs

    Not cheap, but I can't see any off the shelf solutions anywhere near this price. Probably need to make a decision on poundage/damper length shortly, as we need the front suspension on before we get the car back on the ground to fit the Escort bubble arches.

    Any recommendations?

    PS: Updated photos to follow very soon!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Looks an interesting build let's see some pics

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    Will do

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Quote Originally Posted by MegatronUK View Post
    Dad finished the last of the welding in the engine bay today and is now starting to think about running gear - we've got a mk2 Escort English axle casing and several sets of half shafts, but no diff units.

    I'm trying to work out what ratio diff and wheel/tyre combination we need to go for, as with the arch work planned we'll probably need the right wheels to mock things up.

    So, car will have the XE from my Escort, running (initially) 45DHLA's and probably megajolt for ignition, but standard internally other than ARP rod bolts, fitted to a Type 9 box. He wants to use it as a general fast road car and have a reasonable cruising speed.

    I'm thinking, for ease of finding one, a 3.89:1 ratio diff and 205/50x15 wheels and tyres. That will do 22mph/1000rpm in top, but should still be reasonably nippy in (half of!) an Anglia, as well as reasonably cheap tyres. Anyone else with an XE in an old Ford, what's your thoughts on it running with that combination - I can't really imagine it, as I ran it in front of a 4.1:1 cwp for track days, so I've no idea how well it would pull on the road.
    You suggest a 3.89 diff ratio with 15" rims. 22mph per 1000rpm ok she should pull 7000 no probs in top that's cracking on for 160mph !!!!!!!!! good luck with hanging on to it . Rather you than me .

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    [QUOTE=MegatronUK;2799020]Dad finished the last of the welding in the engine bay today and is now starting to think about running gear - we've got a mk2 Escort English axle casing and several sets of half shafts, but no diff units.

    I'm trying to work out what ratio diff and wheel/tyre combination we need to go for, as with the arch work planned we'll probably need the right wheels to mock things up.

    So, car will have the XE from my Escort, running (initially) 45DHLA's and probably megajolt for ignition, but standard internally other than ARP rod bolts, fitted to a Type 9 box. He wants to use it as a general fast road car and have a reasonable cruising speed.

    I'm thinking, for ease of finding one, a 3.89:1 ratio diff and 205/50x15 wheels and tyres. That will do 22mph/1000rpm in top, but should still be reasonably nippy in (half of!) an Anglia, as well as reasonably cheap tyres. Anyone else with an XE in an old Ford, what's your thoughts on it running with that combination - I can't really imagine it, as I ran it in front of a 4.1:1 cwp for track days, so I've no idea how well it would pull on the road.[/QUOT
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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Pictures of the Milton suspension bits fitted to the rear end:

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    We've just ordered a set of 4 Escort mk1 front bubble arches, so it's going to be wiiiide

    Still trying to work out what do to for the front struts - either build our own up from components (but what inserts and spring length/rate?), or buy a ready-converted set of Escort legs, with springs to suit? Decisions, decisions....

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Dad's been working on the rear arches, preparing for the Escort bubbles....

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    Lots of chopping!

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    Should look good when finished - he's got some more work to do before they're ready to fit, including tidying up the front edge where he went a bit too far, but nothing a bit of heat and a panel hammer won't fix.

    Just mocking up the front here....

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    He's also taken the plunge and bought a set of converted coilover front struts, adjustable track control arms and a set of eccentric top mounts. That should be front suspension, hubs and brakes all sorted!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Dad has been busy

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    He's got both rear wheel arches chopped out and welded to take the bubble arch extensions. It's a bit ugly looking at the moment, but that's all stuff that will be hidden and blended in eventually - I remember feeling a bit sick when we did the Escort

    He's been trying my 15x8 wheels and tyres on there to see what the clearance is like - he's still got probably 1" of play to go in (half shafts are not bolted up, so they're pushing the wheels further out than they would actually go), but I still think he probably doesn't want to go any wider than, say a 7" rim and a 215 or so tyre. It's going to look pretty unique when complete!

    Also found and fixed a bodged repair from many years ago down the edge of the passenger door post. Nothing major, but some rust chopped out and the edge of the wing reprofiled a little.

    Front legs arrived - they're Escort RS style struts with 2.25" coilover conversion fitted and KYB inserts. He sourced some eccentric 105E top mounts to fit them, should give him a bit more flexibility in setting up the front end to match the wider track and Escort suspension/steering.

    It's coming along well - I think the next thing is going to be going back over some of the surface rust underneath, applying rust preventative and giving it a good coat of primer. Then the front arches to tackle!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Looking good

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    hows it coming on now

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Dad just finally retired a couple of weeks ago, so he's been celebrating and not working on the cars for about a fortnight!

    He did get the front struts though - they're pretty good, as well as a set of alloy top mounts. He's got all the underside of the car in a coat of ku-rust, so it should stop it going back any further.

    He's planning on starting on the front arches in the next couple of weeks. Once his post-retirement binge of days out playing golf and various trips out on his motorbike settles down a bit I said to him the other day that since he's now retired, he'll soon have both my mk1 Escort and his Anglia done and that we should look at getting a mk2 Escort as another project so that he doesn't run out of things to do.

    I got 'the look' from him at that point. Perhaps I'll not push that one too far yet!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    he will soon get bored, when there done wanting more

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    Dad has been treating the underside with rust preventitive:

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    He's on going around all the seams and welds with sealer at the moment and then I think the plan is to get it primed and coated with stone-chip before getting the car down off the jig and on to the suspension again so that he can fit the front bubble arches to match the rear.

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Coming on nice ..always enjoy the read...cheers mark

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Not a lot of visible progress on the Anglia recently - those the bulkhead had to come back out again due to the engine placement:

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    It's now on the chassis mounts and the gearbox is fitted as well as the exhaust manifold from my Escort chopped to fit.

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    Gearbox mount is made and fixed to the chassis. Front arches are now cut to allow the bubble arch extensions to fit. I think it's going to look quite good:

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    Wheels are about to be ordered - 15x8, ET15 JBW minilight copies with 215 and 225 section tyres, almost the same as my Escort, in fact. It looks pretty tough with my wheels and tyres on.

    Dad has almost decided on the colour of the car - he's thinking a minty green a little like the modern Fiat 500 colour, with a white roof.

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    Coming on nicely that....

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Arches are now being blended in to the body - I think it's going to look awesome when it's finished

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Klockrent!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Sorry folks, forgot to post these pictures about a fortnight ago!

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    Underside completed, with a coat of primer and some unused paint we had spare (it won't stay red!). Rear axle and suspension in and done. Engine bay finished (in terms of welding, mounts, cut-outs, etc... but not for things like holes, grommets, etc).

    Starting to look good!

    Dad has now decided on the paint......

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    VW Pure Grey.

    I'm now pushing my dad to go for a wine red interior. I think that would look the dogs danglies!

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    More updates on dads project:

    He's sourced a pair of nice MX5 leather seats - they fit well (drivers bolster is the only spot of wear); he's now got seat bars fitted and reused the Mazda runners. Quite a neat job!

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    Replaced both front headlamp bowls and the leading edge of the front wings. Grandad must have repaired these some 25-30 years ago with rivets - he was very much a "make do and mend" guy:

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    They obviously still need smoothing in, but at least they're all solid now. I think that was the last of the repair jobs!

    Pedal box (mainly mk2 Escort, with some Fiesta bits [cylinder]) with sidedraught style cable pull now fitted:

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    Bulkhead modified for the new pedal box and new cable routes:

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    He's also just sourced a rollcage hoop to fit and try and gain back some structural rigidity lost when chopping the roof - supports run through the rear firewall to the inner wheel arches. A brace will run between the arches since they're now host to the vertical shock mounts.

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    One last bit of news - he found another saloon boot lid! That means it's going to be much easier to make the full length boot lid that he originally envisaged; I think the idea at the moment is to cut the hinge mounts out, move them to the new mounting location behind the rear screen and then extend the rear lip of the boot. Much easier than making a full boot lid from scratch!

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    He's making good progress now that all the repair work is done - starting to think about engine electrics too; probably going with Nodiz Pro and a Dellorto TPS kit for our existing 45DHLA's for fuelling and ignition control since it seems quite reasonably priced.
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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    You two must be busy..what with trying to finish the escort off
    Looking good

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    Re: Anglia 105e - pickup, arched and Vauxhall XE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut1 View Post
    You two must be busy..what with trying to finish the escort off
    Looking good
    Ha! The Anglia is all my dad's work - I'll not see him all week and when I visit on a weekend to work on the Escort there will always be something that he's done during the week. Case in point, a new extended boot!

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    It's just a first pass, it needs the sides tidying up a bit as well as the new steel blending in of course, but I'm surprised at what a difference it makes to the car now having the open boot area closed off (first time ever!). I think this could end up looking pretty fab actually!

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    It's coming along nicely

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