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    Rear disc conversion kits.

    Complete kit to convert your ATLAS axle to disc brakes, including the following;

    Pair - NEW 2wd Cossie/Granada/Sierra 4x4 handbrake type rear calipers
    Pair - NEW Solid discs to suit
    Pair - Steel mounting brackets
    Pair - Bearing spacer plates (fills the gap where the drum backplate used to be)
    Set - Brake pads
    Set - mounting bolts.
    And some fitting instructions.

    Turbosport members price: 225 (inc VAT) + P&P


    NOTES:
    • These calipers have the mechanical handbrake facility which is required by law for road cars...
    • The kit does NOT include handbrake cable itself - as the type required depends on the vehicle being fitted to. We can advise on the right cable - but usually a Sierra or MK5 RS2000 cable does the job.
    • The mounting brackets are the WELD-ON type. You will notice they have bolt holes - but these are for alignment/spacing purposes only - basically to get the bracket in the right place before welding. The vehicle must NOT be used with the brackets only bolted on.
    • The kit can be used in conjunction with 6x13" RS type alloys (picture below shows this) but I must warn you that it is a fairly close fit....
    • You MAY require longer wheel studs when using rear discs.
    HALFSHAFTS - In order to allow the disc to fit over the halfshaft flange, the OD of the halfshaft has to be machined down a couple of mm. If you have access to a lathe, this is a 30second job.... Otherwise send your shafts to me and i'll do it Free of Charge, then send the shafts back with the kit.

    ALL PARTS AVAILABLE SEPERATELY - CALL FOR DETAILS.

    I think that's everything. Any questions just give me a shout.

    The kit will soon be available to fit the ENGLISH axle... Watch this space.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    nice one, I was looking for the English one, just read the full post LOL

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    English axlepopcorn:

    Picturespopcorn:

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    ENGLISH PLEASE!!!! HURRY lol
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    OK OK sorry for the delay. Rallying this weekend, will get you some more info on Monday - but i can say now that the English kit is sorted out and is the same price as the Atlas kit...

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    As promised, here is a picture of the kit:



    The only difference with the english kit is the shape of the bracket. As i say, same price for the English kit too.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    hI , will they be any good for a ford 9" axle, all the best Rich .

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    I honestly don't know, as i've never had anything to do with those axles. If you could get me some drawings/pictures/dimensions on the various parts - i.e the bearing carrier on the end of tubes, haflshafts etc then i'll see what i can do, but failing that i would need to see the axle i'm afraid.

    "Nothing a bit of time and money won't sort out" as they say.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Do you do the kit without the calipiers and pads?

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManicRacers
    Do you do the kit without the calipiers and pads?

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    certainly.

    Have you got mounting cradles?

    Basically, you'd need discs, mounting brackets and bearing spacer plates, then?

    Drop me a PM with exactly what you need, and i'll magic something up
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Quote Originally Posted by FOSSIE
    As promised, here is a picture of the kit:



    The only difference with the english kit is the shape of the bracket. As i say, same price for the English kit too.

    i have now sent off for my kit, can anyone recommend the correct / easiest handbrake cable to fit - i want to retain the cable operation and do not really want to go messing about cutting cables and re joining them etc.My kit is for the english axle and application is RS2000 mk 2

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Use a Mk5 RS2000 cable, You'll need to fit another cable stop opposite the otherside and make up a bridging bar like this............


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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    I have got a fossie english kit on my mk1 tina i used a serria cable and old ford autos
    http://www.oldfordautos.co.uk/
    cable mounts 20.00 each much easer than cutting them from a scrap serria they also do garry bridging bar 7.00



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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    does the kit use 2wd cossie rear discs?? if so, will these fit under 7X13 superlites on a MK1??

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    No, the kit uses modified Escort mk3 front discs. Cossie rear discs would be too big diameter. This kit is designed specifically to fit under 13" rims to should be OK with superlites.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Hi There

    Interested in getting some of the parts you have on offer as below.

    Pair - Steel mounting brackets
    Pair - Bearing spacer plates (fills the gap where the drum backplate used to be)
    Set - mounting bolts.
    And some fitting instructions.

    Please can you let me know a price for the above.

    Many thanks

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    replied to your PM

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    can you use 4x4/cossie discs (a la caprisport) with your system to avoid machining half shafts? (got 17" wheels so should fit ok within wheel).

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    If those discs you mention are anything other than 235mm diameter, then no, my brackets would not mount the caliper in the correct place. I seem to remember the cossie rear disc is more like 270mm, in which case I'd have to make up some different brackets.... A bit uneconomical on 1-offs.

    It'd certainly be cheaper, simpler and quicker to just turn the 1/2shafts down!

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Do you do rear disc kits for a mk1 fiesta mate?


    I already have cossie rear calipers so would want everything but them


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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    YODI - The short answer is 'no'. I have never seen the setup on the back of a fiesta, so I wouldn't know where to start. Nothing a bit of time and money wouldn't fix, I'm sure, but the sensible option would be to find someone who's done it already

    Having said that, are you sure you want brakes that powerful on the back of a Fiesta?

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Ive got a bias pedal box mate so ill just turn the rear braking power down as and when i need to, i deffo dont want drums on the back

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    yodi, why do you want rear dics?

    most racers i know have to go to lengths to REDUCE rear brake effort, and i'm afraid just because you have a bias pedal box it may not be as simple as adjusting the bias, you may need to change master cylinder sizes or fit an additional bias valve

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    RS Turbos are a nightmare with Rear disks fitted, if you do do it use some small disks and not cossie ones, of course with disks maintenance is easier and it looks cool if you paint the caliper RED.
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    guys do you really believe I should leave the drums on the back?

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    yes.

    i did 6 years of racing on a car with rear drums and never a problem, likewise i know of lots of very fast racing fiestas and escorts that still use rear drums. i dont if it it still happens but it one time it wasn't unusual for racers to grease the rear brake linings! anther friend of mine had to remove half the linings the shoes from his rear brakes to stop the car locking up the rear under race conditions

    the thing is the faster you go the harder you stop and the more weight transfer you have to the front the LESS effort you need at the rear brakes

    IMHO the only benifits of rear discs is that they run cooler, overheating is normally only an issue under extreme use such as race or rallying where the handbrake has to do lots of work.
    and because they are self adjusting they are pretty maintainace free and tend to give a more constistance pedal feel, but seeing as he feel only changes with shoe wear its not normally an issue other than extreme usage such as on the back of a rally car
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Ok mate im persuaded to stay drums then, but should I keep the peddle box too as the priginal brake set up is crap.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    fit the bias pedal box, its one of the biggest single improvemnts you can make to give proper feel to the pedal, it should also save you some weight and give you more room in the engine bay which i dare say you will find usefull

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Yodi, what pedal box have you got and where did you get it?? Just not seen one for a mk1 fiesta
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    it looked like an escort one to me, they are very adaptable, i have fitted them to two different sorts of beemer and a mk3 escort

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Yep you are right they never made one for a MK1 fiesta so I bought one for a MK2 Escort, my friend had just fitted one to an FD RX7 and also the www.zetecinside.com guy has fitted a mk2 escort one to his so if he can do it do can I

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Quote Originally Posted by YODI
    Yep you are right they never made one for a MK1 fiesta so I bought one for a MK2 Escort, my friend had just fitted one to an FD RX7 and also the www.zetecinside.com guy has fitted a mk2 escort one to his so if he can do it do can I
    yep the good old escort pedal box seems almost universal

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Ecellent, cheers guys
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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Thought i'd get this back on track....

    Quote Originally Posted by FOSSIE
    Complete kit to convert your ATLAS axle to disc brakes, including the following;

    Pair - NEW 2wd Cossie/Granada/Sierra 4x4 handbrake type rear calipers
    Pair - NEW Solid discs to suit
    Pair - Steel mounting brackets
    Pair - Bearing spacer plates (fills the gap where the drum backplate used to be)
    Set - Brake pads
    Set - mounting bolts.
    And some fitting instructions.

    Turbosport members price: 225 (inc VAT) + P&P


    NOTES:
    • These calipers have the mechanical handbrake facility which is required by law for road cars...
    • The kit does NOT include handbrake cable itself - as the type required depends on the vehicle being fitted to. We can advise on the right cable - but usually a Sierra or MK5 RS2000 cable does the job.
    • The mounting brackets are the WELD-ON type. You will notice they have bolt holes - but these are for alignment/spacing purposes only - basically to get the bracket in the right place before welding. The vehicle must NOT be used with the brackets only bolted on.
    • The kit can be used in conjunction with 6x13" RS type alloys (picture below shows this) but I must warn you that it is a fairly close fit....
    • You MAY require longer wheel studs when using rear discs.
    HALFSHAFTS - In order to allow the disc to fit over the halfshaft flange, the OD of the halfshaft has to be machined down a couple of mm. If you have access to a lathe, this is a 30second job.... Otherwise send your shafts to me and i'll do it Free of Charge, then send the shafts back with the kit.

    ALL PARTS AVAILABLE SEPERATELY - CALL FOR DETAILS.

    I think that's everything. Any questions just give me a shout.

    The kit will soon be available to fit the ENGLISH axle... Watch this space.

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Cheers Gary.

    Only got a couple of these kits left, and if you're quick - you'll beat the VAT

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Hi Fossie,
    Would you sell me a set of Calipers and pads ?

    The rest is pretty surplus to me as I will be fitting to a Piazza rear Axle with some of Gary`s weld on Brackets

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    Dom - have you got a 2nd hand pair as exchange units, or are you talking about "outright" sale? The answer is yes, either way, but obviously it makes a difference to the price. We'd prefer to sell them complete with mounting cradles and new sliders - which at first glance WILL look expensive, but you need to decide whether you can be bothered getting a 2nd hand pair from the scrappy, blasting the cradles, posting them to me etc etc.... Normally, recon calipers don't come with cradles, and definitely not with new sliders.

    let me know what you'd prefer anyway, and i'll give you a price.

    remember, these are AMK reconditioned units too - which tend to be a bit more expensive than some of the other reconditioners. Personally I think they are best though, they look nicer quality than new Ford units to be honest!

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    PM Sent Fella

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    just to inform you foulks who might be thinking on purchasing a kit from fossie, you have no worries, just recieved my to day and it is tip top excelent quality! cheers fossie

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    Re: Rear disc conversion kits.

    fossie, are these kits for the english axle still available?
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