Racer
Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
So I've been having endless issues with starter motor mesh. If fitted a 14mm spacer between the bell housing and the starter, tried another 2L pinto starter, fitted the steel spacer that goes between the engine and gearbox, still no luck.
The starters swing making a loud grinding sound and then just seem to jam up
2L Blacktop Zetec
2L Zetec Flywheel
Type 9 box and bellhousing
Starter model : Prestolite EL25192 - 10 tooth
Problem is I cant just go out and buy a LRS707 as the 1800 Sierra's where not sold in out country.
Any help ? Is this the right 2L starter I'm using ?
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Pit Crew
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Sierra dohc starters are the same I believe
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Thats the problem they DOHC was also not sold here. :-(
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Some good info her for Pinto and Zetec starters, looks the same other than the spacer
I use a version of this starter for my Zetec and 2000e gearbox in my Anglia and I like it very much
Pinto measurements
http://www.brise.co.uk/ckeditor/Ford%20892910AXG.pdf
RWD Zetec measurements version
http://www.brise.co.uk/ckeditor/Ford%20891410AXG.pdf
Last edited by Svein; 26-02-2016 at 16:50.
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Thanks - I've seen that and yes it doesn't make sense why my starter shouldn't work with the spacer.
I bought the flywheel seperatly from the engine, Im wondering if all the Zetec flywheels are the same size (Outside diameter) ?
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World Champion
Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Are you sure it's a Zetec fw ?
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Asked spares salesman for a Zetec fw, bolted straight on, clutch works
maybe I should just pull motor out and check
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World Champion
Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Maybe try 9 tooth starter first ?
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Good idea, thanks M8
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Thats a novel approach, what intake are you using ?
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
i have made my own....i cut a manifold flange out of 3mm steel....by hand. it was a fair bit of effort. i then cut the injector plate from the donor manifold, got some 1mm sheet steel and folded it into a 3" X 3" tube
the inlet runners are new exhaust pipe at about 32mm diameter....
I have even made myself a fuel tank from 1mm sheet steel, which will accept the standard ford fuel pump on its correct mounting....so easy to swap if it gives trouble. the tank works out at 46L or about 10 gallons.
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
the thing is i have a couple of CVH starters i acquired for my project.....but changed my mind as i want the exhaust side to be clear of both the alternator and the starter to help prevent trouble in use....the CVH starters are promised to another builder who doesn’t fancy modifying the bell housing the same way as my self.
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Racer
Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Hmm my DCOE intake would be in the way of the starter
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
You sure.....?
The zetec starter is quite small and sits low ...
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Snowy2
You sir are an inspiration,was going to fork out Hundreds of pounds getting a starter motor to fit my Blacktop with a type 9 gearbox/bellhousing,,,,but after seeing your bellhousing mod,for twenty quid I've ordered a plasma cut ring ( will do 2 bellhousings ) and can use the original starter motor in the original position...
Thanks
John
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
glad i found this, i looked at it today and had thoughts of doing similar, now im pretty happy to go ahead with it, nice off the shelf starter in Australia, i did some mocking up with the 2L pinto one i rebuilt for the motor that im replacing and it was all looking a bit of a pain, especially in regards to the sump mods im working on, thanks
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Craig , maybe check with Clive Wilmot , I think he's done a couple of these conversions . Also check on FB there's a RWD Zetec group that's quite active.
Cheers
Dion
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
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Re: Zetec on type 9 - starter issues
Snowy2
Many thanks once again,have been running my Type9 with Zetec Blacktop for quite a while and the starter motor mod is excellent...even using the original starter loom
John ;-)
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