The more the merrier Al, I think theres still a class for vintage saloonsOriginally Posted by RETRO_AL
The more the merrier Al, I think theres still a class for vintage saloonsOriginally Posted by RETRO_AL
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Speaking of settling in can I have a novice cross please Graham ,
or did you use all of them to decorate the beemer
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Some engine pics
Last edited by Retromotorsport; 30-08-2006 at 10:26.
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Bit of progress with the build lately, have 2 intercoolers now ready to fit in the car, the one piece front end is up at scuffs n stuff getting a little fettle
and yesterday rebuilt the front hubs so that I could fit these little babies
They are Hi Spec Monster 6 pot calipers on 335 x 32 mm discs
Luckily I picked them up from a guy in work who's son was gonna use them on a sierra (twin turbo ) so they are unused.
All that was required was a quick visit to Geoff at Hi spec to get a new set of centre bells and caliper brackets
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I like the AXLE STAND
oh i've wet myself,awesome love it
The only downside with these brakes is that 15's will no longer fit on the car.
The smallest wheel that will clear is a group A spec 16" (or split rim) so I am on the look out for a set of 16" or 17" wheels as wide as poss, that I can use for wets and transportation. Group A cossie etc.. popcorn:
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That looks awesome , keep the up-dates comingpopcorn:
very nice!
have you had to modify the intercoolers much/at all?
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Not too bad mate
have you got an axle sorted out yet, by the way? popcorn:
Looks good m8
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cant you machine the diameter of the disk down a bit and move the caliper in to make the 15 go over or is it a lot more space required?
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why so big dave? i can out brake lighter and slower cars on circuit with mere 300mm discs, its not the disc size thats important its the pad material and what you do with it
having said that i might of gone bigger, but couldn't face the prospect of having to buy 12 more wheels and tyres when there wasn't anything wrong with the ones i already had
Last edited by Graham; 07-09-2006 at 08:39.
Its that old trade off thing.. those brakes fit under one set of wheels, and the others he has sold for what he will be able to get another set that are 16"s .... so with the brakes being cheap... they just had to go on
thats ok then, anyway the bigger brakes will just slow his lap times and as im looking forward to getting the better of a few more class A cars next year it will just help in my quest.....
just got to find some time to make the proposed engine changes, looking for the full 500bhp for next season
No Graham you can't run nitrous oxide in class A
Are you not a believer in the bigger the better with discs then, I always thought the more leverage the better and they will have better heat dispersion too?
Oh and these 6 pots etc cost me less than the smaller 4 pot wilwwod se I had planned to buy!
Last edited by david_white; 07-09-2006 at 10:33.
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Basically an inch would have to come off, and no I wouldn't like to try doing that, might mess up all the veins inside and I wouldn't wanna risk it.
All that had to go were my 15" orange splits and they have gone to a better home where they will be used more than on mine (they were only for wets) so with the money I got I'm looking for a set of 16" or 17" wheels hopefully with a set of wets or inters already on them.
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bigger discs will help a bit with heat dissipation, but the bigger diameter actually adds very little leverage, my current discs do however have nice curved vanes which are supposed to cool much better
think about it, a 300mm disc gives the caliper 6inch leverage at the extreme edge of the disc, now imagine the lbsft braking force your actually applying when stopping, its 100's and 100'slbft,
going to a 330mm disc will gain you a fraction over half inch more leverage, now when you are already generating 500lbft plus of braking power how much will you gain with an extra half inch leverage? not a huge amount.
dont forget a huge disc is like having a flywheel on each corner of the car, you've got slow the extra stored energy in the discs,
stopping power is mainly about pad material, heat management, hydralic leverage, then disc size, assuming you have plenty of tyre grip
on the silverstone national when i had full power in between things breaking i was braking significantly later than cars which were nearly around 40% lighter and were going around 40-50 mph slower at the ends of the straights.
my 02 was also brilliant on the brakes on mere 280mm discs coupled with std rear drums on std road linings, not that the rears did anything after lap 3!
Last edited by Graham; 07-09-2006 at 10:48.
OK; Modern touring car with a mere 275 bhp 8500rpm wet sump engine and 9x17 rims;
Front brakes: 343mm vented discs and 6 pots
Rear brakes: 290mm solid discs with 2 pots
And I believe the old 300+bhp hi tech super tourers had something like 375mm discs
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dont forget that touring cars are no expense spared,
well the proof of the pudding.........
so we will be able to have a little grudge match on both the go and stop depts then??????
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why who has a 1000kg car then? not me
Last edited by Graham; 07-09-2006 at 20:18.
Any updates Dave?
This car is totally awesome
I want it pray:
Make me an offer
Not much to update, painter is letting all the front end settle so he can respray all of it, Again ,
..and in the meantime the guy who got me the Hi Spec brakes has a pukka twin turbo ally intercooler for me to look at, although I expect the 2 cossie ones will stay, plus he has a load of samco's so I need to get them and then get the rest of it all plumbed in.
Brakes and extinguisher need plumbing next too but that should be a doddle
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Couple of phone pics today,
got my brakes all on and the 16's clear them nicely , just a pity you cant see the brakes through the BBS centres
Put the gear stick surround back in the car, and yes we are trying to save the blue paint for other things
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Just spotted the mascot sitting on the seat, not my idea honest
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Lurvly Dave Can I call shotgun?
She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro
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Dave, Have you thought anymore about spaceframing the front end?
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wise move david, once you go space frame you very much cut down on where you can race it,
as far as dtrc goes forced induction may be illegal for spaceframed cars for 2007
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Yeah thats what I meant, But rules are rules. You could always restart the Thundersaloon championship
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