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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Different engines too. Sigma lump is the ST170 engine am I right? My brother used 5w40 in his N/A Cossie I believe, and that lasted a long time at high revs.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Sigma is the baby Zetec. All alloy 1600cc. Found in fiestas and Fucus'sand in the new Mondeo with VCT. It was a sigma based engine they used in Fiesta Super 1600 rally cars.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Shot of the interior tonight

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    My Carbon Dash is finished! Hansell Composites are sending it today, so I may get it tomorrow. Even they think it looks fab. They've used a gloss finish on the front panel, and the rest is matt finish.

    Finished the goddam wiring last night. No more wires to run inside the car. Now its just a case of crimping 70 or so pins on the ends of the bare wires, and inserting them into the connectors.

    I cant emphasise how much I've enjoyed this part of the project, but I'm just so f*cking pleased thats its coming to an end, so i can move on (and get some bl**dy sleep again)

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    lol thats the joys of DIY! At least you know it's right tho . Re the 'screen demisting , do you think there's enough heat off the dash box?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Should think so, the rev counter and instruments certainly get warm. If not, I'll just stick a light bulb inside there LOL

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    The carbon dash arrived this morning. Just a phone pic for now, I'll get some more shots on the digital camera later.



    Hmm, lovely carbon fibre. It only weighs 680grammes.

    Big up to Hansell Composites. Stunning job.
    http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk

    And, I have power in the car now. The relays click when I throw switches and press the starter button. Its alive!!
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Pics of the carbon dash






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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    awesome!

    has mike told you to join up to SBR?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Awesome work on the loom and dash Graham i used to work wiring fire engines and i have got to say having made looms for a couple of years for a living i would be very proud of what you have achievedCan i ask where you got your screened cable from and also the connectors,we used to use duetsch connectors on the fire engines very good connectors and easy to use unfortunatly i cant get hold of them anymore ,we used to use screened cable for the strobes aswell,wish i had saved some now
    Thanks Jezz

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    SBR? Do I get a free t-shirt?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Dash looks good

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by Toymex View Post
    Awesome work on the loom and dash Graham i used to work wiring fire engines and i have got to say having made looms for a couple of years for a living i would be very proud of what you have achievedCan i ask where you got your screened cable from and also the connectors,we used to use duetsch connectors on the fire engines very good connectors and easy to use unfortunatly i cant get hold of them anymore ,we used to use screened cable for the strobes aswell,wish i had saved some now
    Thanks Jezz
    Thanks for the compliment Jezz, I am a bit of a perfectionist at heart, hence the lengths I've gone to do it right. I appreciate the feedback.

    The STP cable is from www.rswww.com part number 528-2207

    The connectors (I couldn't afford the crimping tool for the Deutsch range!) are made by ITT Cannon, and are from the Neptune range.
    Again, from www.rswww.com part numbers 273-5382 and 273-5360 and the backshells are 273-5562
    They come in size 24, and the smaller size 16. I've used the size 24's on the bulkhead and control box, and size 16 on the dashboard loom.
    Here is the full range from www.rswww.com
    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...uctNum=2735382

    Gold plated pins throughout, for peace of mind too. 8-)
    The smaller pins are rated at 13A and the larger ones at 30A
    Last edited by team_zi; 01-02-2010 at 10:00.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    What are your plans enginewise? Tried to have look at the previous pages but could not find any plans.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadsport View Post
    What are your plans enginewise? Tried to have look at the previous pages but could not find any plans.
    This new BBS is really getting on my nerves now. I click "Reply", type in the reply, then accidentally click "Reply to thread" (bottom left) and it clears what I've typed. Urgh.

    OK, so engine wise, stage one will be Cossie cams and followers, with ARP rod bolts and an uprated clutch, which should see (from what I've read) around 220BHP using the Titan TB's and the Tony Law exhaust.

    Stage two, cash permitting, will be 260BHP, with wilder cams and a good bit of headwork.

    Initially, though, before I spend anything on the engine, will be to keep the engine standard, and get it run in and on the rolling road. We'll take it from there, once cooling etc has been sorted.

    The loom has provision for two sets of injectors, so I can always add another bank at a later date, if the fuelling becomes a problem.
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    This stage two you speak of will it still include STD bottom end? Can't be. Seems quit high output for standard bottom end an compression ratio.
    For extra set of injectors Jenvey seem to sell ram pipes with holes for additional injectors. Propably the easiest way of adding injectors. But I'm pretty sure 4 injectors are good up to 300+ bhp.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Roadsport, the Duratec standard crank is good for 9,400rpm and 300+bhp, it's so well cast. 4 injectors has achieved 294bhp on SBD's Duratec's.

    http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Duratec/Durat...ange%20kit.htm

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Yep standard bottom end is fine particularily on the 2.0

    Peter at Raceline got 300bhp on 4 injectors on a 2.3 and their DTH 48mm Jenvey's, this was on Mountunes dyno, so is pretty accuarate.

    SBD and Raceline have been doing development on throttle bodies and they have just got 308bhp on 52mm (I think) ones that use 4 Dekka injectors I believe these are standard fitment on the Meganne Turbo.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Built the dash up last night. Still trying to find a cheap ST200 0-4-10000rpm rev counter.


    The LEDs are from rswww.com but are no longer available. I bought them 8 yrs ago, but never fitted them. The black bevel suits the carbon really well.

    The hole (bottom right) is for the traction control pot, which just needs trimming to length.

    For the labelling, do you think white Letraset would stand the test of time?

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Found a small clearance issue with the bottom two stack instruments, when the front panel is inserted in to the carbon dash, they lean downwards at the rear, and hit the bottom of the dash. So I'll space the front panel out slightly, no one will ever notice the difference.

    Ordered the Stack ST200 from DT today, and another pair of red bonnet pins. I need to get the PT Carbon bonnet fitted so I can get the car down to SFS at Luton for the hoses to be measured up.

    Crimped around 16 pins last night, and after an hour spent on my knees, could hardly move. Ouch!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    hope you've knee pads mate , they're a lifesaver..

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    There's some kneelers in the back of the shed, so I'll get the torch out tonight, and brave the cobwebs. I've been kneeling on an old bath towel, folded up, but its not got much give in it. My ankles were hurting too. Working outside certainly takes its toll.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Almost finished the dash. 8-)


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Tacho turned up this morning, so I'll fit that tonight.

    The small toggle switches I've used (for reference) on the front panel are from rswww.com
    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/4480747.html

    And the push button with the rubber cover (same type as used by Stack on their rev counter tell tale switch) is
    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/1036280.html

    and the rubber switch cover, sold seperately is
    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/1036303.html

    The LED indicators are 265-6829, 265-6807 and 265-6835 (all now discontinued)

    Vehicle wiring products sells the same switch and cover, for about 3 times the price of RS ! I know, I bought one from VWP and it came in an RS bag with the part number on the outside. Doh!

    Loads more crimping last night, almost ready to insert all the wires in to the control box connector housing, and start testing the power circuits/lights etc.
    Last edited by team_zi; 04-02-2010 at 10:13.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Fitted the stack tacho and switch, and moved the Ford emblem down.

    Tonights project is to wire it all up.

    Finished the control box connector last night. Now its the two ECU connectors to complete, and she's good to go!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    The dash looks great, top work

    Must be nearly time for the big start-up now
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Just need to finish the ECU connectors, test the ignition and injectors, plumb the radiator in, plumb the fuel lines for the throttle bodies in, connect a throttle cable, and it will run. 3-4 weeks top.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    looks excellent, don't think I am going to be able to measure up to that standard, not even close

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by dobuy View Post
    looks excellent, don't think I am going to be able to measure up to that standard, not even close
    Praise indeed!

    Lots of lovely dashboard spaghetti. Will finish it tonight (tues), and power it all up to test the instruments and LED's




    The amber alternator warning LED takes it power from the supply for the ignition coil, so the LED only comes on when the ignition switch is in the On position. The oil pressure and gear shift LEDs take their power from the main +12V feed for the dash, so these are always 'live'.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Stack heaven... Couldn't resist sticking it on the battery.

    Last edited by team_zi; 10-02-2010 at 10:01.

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Ran out of crimps so I couldn't finish the wiring on Friday evening. So I've set about mounting the carbon dash in the car, and made one support strut last night out of steel tubing, which supports the front of the dashboard (which is now pretty heavy with all the instruments inside). Slow progress, but progress all the same. Got a bollocking for going outside on Valentines day, but I'm sure the Fiesta didn't mind the attention. 8-)

    The www.zetecinside.com website has had a makeover during the weekend. It now uses CSS for positioning, which makes it far easier to modify in the future, as one style sheet controls the layout. Just over half of the archive news pages are converted, with another 70 or so pages left to convert. I've removed the google ads, as they slowed everything down. So if anyone wants to place an advert on the site, get in touch....

    If the website looks a bit doolally, press ctrl-F5 to force your web browser to reload all the styles etc.
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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Here's the dash mounted in the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    The www.zetecinside.com website has had a makeover during the weekend. It now uses CSS for positioning, which makes it far easier to modify in the future, as one style sheet controls the layout.
    Just a shame it's not called duratecinside...

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    I know. Tough call. Everyone knows the car as "Graham's zetecinside Fiesta", so I think I'll stick with the name.

    I do also own the www.duratecinside.com domain name though, so maybe one day.....

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    seeing as ford put duratec badges on a zetec your just have to put zetec badges on a duratec !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by graham bahr View Post
    seeing as ford put duratec badges on a zetec your just have to put zetec badges on a duratec !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Now there's an idea 8-)

    My suspension is on its way from the USA. Its been designed and manufactured by a bloke called Karl Hacken, and he works as a chassis/suspension designer for a race team.




    I've been waiting a year for the setup, as karl also sells road versions, and this is the first competition spec version that doesn't use the original bottom ball joint.

    As soon as it arrives I'll fit it, measure the length of the new driveshaft, and get that ordered.

    The dashboard is now mounted in the car, and I'm working on the brackets and stays' to make sure that they're up to the same standard as the rest of the car. I know you cant see the bracket that supports the rear of the dash, but its still the principle 8-)

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamb View Post
    I know. Tough call. Everyone knows the car as "Graham's zetecinside Fiesta"
    Ahh the price of fame and notoriety, it's a terrible thing when you become a branded item
    Maybe we need to get you a Ford part number

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Quote Originally Posted by dobuy View Post
    Ahh the price of fame and notoriety, it's a terrible thing when you become a branded item
    Maybe we need to get you a Ford part number
    I don't need a part no. I just need to be able to spend more than an hour a day on the dammn thing.
    Urgh, still working on getting the dash instaled tonight. I need to brace the 2 tie bars now as the dash wobbles side to side. X-(

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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    Sorry for that John Smiths induced whinge last night.

    Right, new CV joint arrived this morning. This will fit in the IB5+ box on the passenger side, and allow me to retain the recoprop short driveshaft, meaning I only have to get the long/intermediate one made (saving around £350! in the process)


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    Re: Grahamb's Mk1 Fiesta XR2 Duratec HE Hillclimber

    that suspension looks fantastic.

    i'm not sure whether to be glad i'm incapable of producing anything near the quality but get it done sooner, or if i'd rather have it look nice aswell but spend the time doing it.

    well worth the extra time for doing it in my opinion though.

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