pinto turbo box will t5 cope?

[longboy]

i'm currently running a type 9 box at in the next year i'm going to have to change it to a more suitable one so i can up the boost.
i know the t5 is the obvious choise but what power will they cope with standard? Also a second hand t5 is about £300 and i would expect it to need work at that.
Advice please on options

[therealpinto]

I'm going for a T5 in mine, unless my plans don't work out. It seems to be the easiest solution...

The T5 works with decent powered YBs so it should take a pretty angry Pinto turbo.

For a "bullet proof" box I'd go for a BMW ZF from a newer M3 or 328 but they needs lots of work. Weld on a bellhousing that fits the Pinto, for starters...

Gustaf

[popuptoaster]

I'd try a Sierra MT75 first, they are lighter than a type 9 and they cope with 300bhp 24v lumps and you can probably get one for almost nothing, for the cost of a prop and a gearbox mounting its gotta be worth a try? the T5 is expensive and heavy if you dont need all that strength.

[therealpinto]

Yes, that's true. My experiences of using MT-75's in daily drivers though, is that they are picky on oil choice (wrong oil = wrecked bearings) and usually 2nd gear synchro is shot. Plus, shift quality is often bad.

The last point can to a point be fixed by making the linkage tighter and eliminating some of the rubber bushes - and that probably make the synchros last better too.

Regards

Gustaf

[longboy]

Thanks guys

[boXXer]

T5 will be MORE than enough.

[Graham]

agreed, the T5 has proved reliable on the race tracked with 450bhp cossies, therfore should handle anything a roadgoing pinto can chuck at it turbo or not

[boXXer]

dont forget though, that ratios are quite long on that box.

[Graham]

true, but with turbos you should be using the torque not revving the thing so it wide ratios arnt such an issue

[dickycosworth]

is this a straight swap

[longboy]

well looks like i'm after a t5 box then check if the clutch and flywheel will work with the box

Thanks for the help guys

[dickycosworth]

surely the starter would be in the wrong place as the pinto has small flywheel and you cant fit cosworth flywheel as it is 9 bolts and pinto is 6

[longboy]

well thats where i pull the magic card... i'm running a cossy crank rods and pistons.

though i do think i'll need a new fly wheel

[therealpinto]

I'm mocking things up at the moment. No, the Pinto starter will not fit a Cossie T5 with a Pinto flywheel. Either modify the bellhousing (or get someone to do it - there is a company in the UK that will do it quite cheaply on a exchange basis) or do what I did, spend 150-ish £ on a new bellhousing from Rally Design...

Regards

Gustaf

[longboy]

so whats a realistic price on the bat they tend to range from £200-£400

[sierra3dr]

I thought the T9 would be ok? Looking at Turbo Technics,they used the T9. Unless it was upgraded.

[Graham]

turbo technicsa cars did use the T9 but it was the stronger V6 version even then the gearboxes were a little marginal, when talking about his own car geoff kershaw once said to me gearboxes had to be regarded as consumables!

[sierra3dr]

Good griefI just hope mine won't pack up then Oh hang,this is about the Pinto,I was thinking Cologne. Still,both have the T9

[therealpinto]

Well I blew up my first T9 this summer, and it was built on a V6 XR4x4 casing with the big bearings, the V6 rations and was fully reconditioned. But in all honesty I was not nice to the gearbox, 1,5 bar of boost, drag radials and dumped clutch on a track bited dragstrip...

For "sane" amounts of power (say below 250 bhp) a (standard) T9 is often fine for a turbo Pinto. I have used standard boxes for years...

Gustaf

[TJM]

Can do a RS2000 (Pinto) to T5 bellhousing for £182.50 plus £11.75 P&P.

Delivery time 5-7 days, castings in stock just need machining.

Regards
Tim
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[Leandre1]

Maybe you might want to look into getting a T-5 from a 1984- 1989 USA Ford Thunderbird Turbocoupe. These cars left the factory with a turbo pinto engine.
A T-5 from a Mustang GT would work also and a rebuilt unit can be had for about $600 US plus the shipping to the UK.

[therealpinto]

The T-bird has the 2.3 Lima and the upper two bolts on the bellhousing does not match the Pinto...but that can be dealt with.

When I looked into that is was more expensive and more trouble getting parts like that sent to Europe. But it IS a good idea :-)

Gustaf

[Phil01825]

I'm mocking things up at the moment. No, the Pinto starter will not fit a Cossie T5 with a Pinto flywheel. Either modify the bellhousing (or get someone to do it - there is a company in the UK that will do it quite cheaply on a exchange basis) or do what I did, spend 150-ish £ on a new bellhousing from Rally Design...

Regards

Gustaf

http://www.arrowautoengineering.co.uk/page12.htm

These are the guys who will mod the Cossie Bellhousing. They charge about £40 on an exchange basis.

[CapriMMIV]

I have a standard cossie flywheel here for sale if you like? The current one was machined down to fit the Type 9.