Weight of your Competition Escort

[Retro-ed]

Hi Guys,

What sort of corner weights are you guys seeing with your competition escorts?

Just curious to see how my car compares to some race / rally Mk1 and Mk2s...

Any extra info aswell would be usefull... eg Engine / Box / Axle

Cheers

[jpblue]

My MK1 weighed in at 925.5 with 15 litres of fuel on board. Sierra injected Pinto, 19meters of roll cage tubing, Hilux rear end with LSD (total 60 KG) full steel body. glass and all mechanisms. Only one seat, no internal trim except alloy chequerplate front floor plates. Alloy tank on steel platform, leaves and front coilovers. Steel Antidive and overflow tank. It did weigh 930 but i dropped 4.5 machining the flywheel

Justin

[Pushrod King]

Mine weighs 748kilos wet.

[Pushrod King]

Mine weighs 748kilos wet.

Mine weighs 748kilos wet. Crossflow engine,rocket gearbox, 5 linked english axle, coil overs all round,princess 4 pots with 260mm discs on the front and fiesta mk1 front discs and calipers on the rear. Cross weights are 50% with me sat in the car.

[jpblue]

I seem to remember circa 200-220 at each rear wheel and the rest split across the front. without driver it was falrly even with me it falls over driverside

JP

[andypipe]

Mine comes in about 750 with 55/45 front to rear bias

[Sonus]

how come there are almost 200kgs difference between jpblues car and Pushrod kings and andypipes cars?

Since jpblues car's stripped out, were have you guys found another 180kilos to strip out?

[PaulAlex]

Bloody hell!! I want a Mk1 Escort

[Nelly]

My mk2 is stripped and caged with five linked english axle, but still has all steel panels, full glass and a vauxhall xe. Still road legal weighs in at 880kg.

[Retro-ed]

Good info so far guys

As above, impressed with how light you mk1/X flow guys are!!!

[jpblue]

Mine is full steel shell , no fibreglass full glass house, 2.0l pinto,has the hilux diff and multi leaf springs, themselves probably +10kg's, Volvo 4 piston calipers and BMW vented 280 disks, 2.5mm thick box section anti dive and rear gearbox crossmember, probably too many meters of roll bar tubing. 2.5mm thick Box section seat bars on both sides. thick wall prop shaft, front and rear prop shields
It doesnt have a heater.
Im guessingthe pinto has to be worth 30-40kgs over a pushrod the hilux is heavy probably another 30kg's the cage may be another 10 kg's heavier than what Ive seen over here. the volvos weigh as much as pluto each so there is maybe 5 kgs each overa wilwood or ap etc. The wheels are street grade performance superlights 14x6 so another 10 perhaps against arace wheel and 205/60/14 tyres are not light, hell I think 2 or 3 of them have tubes to stop them deflating? Has windo winders, door locks, (decorative) full sized alloy tank (too big) three fuel pumps, 2 filters runner hoses which have to be heavier than alloy or copper tube, probably there is 10 kg's of welding wire in seam welding but I imagine most have that. It woudl appear based onthis I have not been serious about building a race car... or too poor.

Keep in Mind hasnt been on a diet yet. an with the cossie will probably get heavier as I have 15x9 inch wheels to go on, capri front struts to convert, but I have the big AP's much lighter than the volvos but bigger again disks 310x32mm and aloy hats to go on. I will be redoing the rear suspension to coilovers and 6 link so heavier again and adding comp or tension struts up front. but will also replace the steel anti dive and gearbox mont with lightweight something.

Justin P

[andypipe]

how come there are almost 200kgs difference between jpblues car and Pushrod kings and andypipes cars?

Since jpblues car's stripped out, were have you guys found another 180kilos to strip out?

Its silly little things like lightweight wiring loom(have you felt how heavy they are. Anything not needed is removed so any little bracket goes. Alloy rear dampers, and drilling the car to bits trying to remnove as much as possible.

Its all in the detail, like only running enough fuel for the laps you are going to do (pick up a full jerry can and you will see what i mean)

Thinking about it now, when last weighed with the AX block and bigger wheels it came in at 775kg

Mind you, i am now becoming a fat bastard so any weight saving has been offset

[andypipe]

Bloody hell!! I want a Mk1 Escort

But you carry someone else who has to tell you where to go

[boXXer]

Mines full interior, full steel (no f/glass), Steel wheels, quaife box, engrish axle, N/A YB and came out at 862KG WET. I wanna poly the windows, F/Glass the panels and do a few little bits to get it a bit lower.

[Roadsport]

My regulation competition weigh is 870kg's Shedding the ballast would make it 820kg's with the U.S tank rear axle. 50/50 ish weight frot to rear

[Erikmex]

My MK2 with 2.0l Pinto, 45's steel panels, alloy arches, full glass, Eng. axle with panhard and tramp bars, type 9 box, 9'' drums, princess 4 pots, bilsteins, stripped interior with 2 sparco seats, 12 gallon alloy tank, std. battery, grp4 alloy hubs, 8 x 13's with 205/60's, SD bolt in cage, wet = 879kg

[RETRO_AL]

My old cossie mk1 with all steel panels was 960kg,the exhaust weighed a lot! not to mention the massive intercooler and turbo cooler,im hoping to be well under that with the mk2

[RETRO_AL]

Having said that there was 3 paint jobs on there(original red,white,then the white red green combo),so i reckon if you strip the original paint off it would weigh a lot less

[max0815]

Stripped 4 door, all stell, xflow engine, 1600x low gearbox, small atlas axle, full rollcage, poly windows, cut everything out of the bonnet- doors etc, to many paint jobs, om 7/13 wheels
800 kg
Now we have some fibreglass parts and worked on the body but set in a Type 9 gearbox and a english axle in. After the winter we are going to weight again

[max0815]

I just read in our regulation book: 730 kg is our min weight thats hard with such a huge car

[JayMk2-xpack]

I weighed mine at brands couple if weeks ago and it was 840 wet without me but i still think theres a bit more to come out if it tho, like a propa wireing loom and so on, it has 2.4 steel pinto big 330 brakes but has poly window fibre glass boot bonnet front panel and wings and a big cage but i still think thats quite a low weight for somthink with that spec!!! :-) :-)

[hutchspeed]

my old yellow retro escort had every bit of double skin cut out, all alloy tubs fibriglass arches bonnet and boot alloy tank alloy boot floor t45 ht cage big ap rs200 calipers and 315mm x28m full monty dry sumped pinto quiafepro 5speed box gartrac single piece prop, atlas grp1 with 5 link ,alloy gartrac rear coilovers. dove fibriglass doors ,perspex windowso2x lightweight race seats, 10x16 comps, i have got no idea what it weighed but i could lift the rear of the car up quite easily wet.

[Escort74]

My Mk1 escort race car
2 L pinto , w50 5 speed Toyota gearbox , hilux diff , 6 link rear end , full cage
weighed in with 20 L of fuel , spare wheel in the boot and jack.

910.5kg total

[steerfromdarear]

what corner weight gauges do you all use

[Ianbavs]

Old post but mines 1100 ish with cosy turbo t5 etc carpet leather seats etc etc

[RETRO_AL]

My old Castrol mk1 with yb turbo all steel panels was 960kg

[RETRO_AL]

LOL just looked up and I already replied years ago

[Ianbavs]

Are mk2 generally heavier ? Was that a road car ? Mines got heater etc power steering cosy servo etc

[Ianbavs]

[Pushrod King]

Update to mine, (last year's spec) 750kgs with AP 4 pots, 2.0xe and 4 speed Tran x gearbox.

[max0815]

I finally made my mk2 lighter then the regulations an now could pack some weight in to get it to 711 kg (710kg min weight).
You can find me on facebook search for GrauMotorsport.

[nathanblaise]

That's an impressive weight for a mk2 Max. Can you share a bit more information about the major areas of weight savings you found? Thanks!

[max0815]

A good example is the battery i started with a normal car battery (don´t know the weight anymore) than changed to a AGM dry battery weight 9kg an now on LiFePo cells 2kg. You have to think about all parts you want to mount on the car. I have a single wiper with only a wiper engine from a VW, no rods or anything direct mounted, thats one example it takes me some saturdays to visit some scrap yards to find the right wiper. And it takes some time to get there, but i still have things on the list were I could lose some more weigth.
The other side is I only run a 1.3 xflow with a small 10L tank and stuff like that.

[MK1_Oz]

Just finished making some car scales (turned out 100% accurate after calibrating with calibration masses!!) only to find my car is not light at 1041kg with no passengers but with 40L fuel. It is a tarmac rally car so 2 seats, 3 fire extinguisgers, trip meter, plus boat anchor Pinto and Hilux rear end etc... The car came out really well balanced however!

[Ianbavs]

Is that with glass windows big brakes hevier axle washer bottle
Spare wheel tools etc ?


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[MK1_Oz]

Has a Hilux diff and Kazz LSD which adds quite a bit of weight. Large AP front calipers and 304mm disks. 15's. Dry sumped which would also add a fair bit I guess. Fire bomb plus 2 x 2.5kg hand extinguishers. All glass. Has window winder mechanisms. Washer bottle but I think that was empty when I weighed the car. The wiring loom is fairly extensive with separate circuits for everything so a few extra kg there also. Spare wheel. First aid kit and 3kg of kitty litter. No tools.

[Ianbavs]

Sounds about right mine was @ 1100kg but yb turbo t5 radio and nothing removed
Will weigh it again next time I drive to work as have an accurate weigh bridge



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[fatboy slim]

got round to weighing my mk2 hillclimb car after 20 years, surprised to find it comes in at 638kgs

[Ianbavs]

Any pics of ur car ? What engine box axle brakes etc are u using
Is there any metal left as that's v light


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[fatboy slim]

look up hillclimb nutter on FB for piccies as i cannot post any on here as i'm useless with tech. car has 1300 turbo'd pusher, all alloy sierra box,english axle with alloy diff nose, coil overs and compression struts on 8" springs all round,f/g bonnet and doors,carbon dash, carbon front grill panel,carbon bootskin and instrument pod,ally rad, swiss cheese wcxm and bkts, carbon cans,1 gallon fuel tank (although at the mo its got another 4 gal and pump in boot for running in and mapping) 6 point bolt in cage, li- ion battery, polycarb windows all bolted in,ally hubs and hi spec s on front over non vented discs,single pot willwoods at rear on drilled and slotted discs,8 and 10 inch splits and alloy and titanium bolts where applicable