5 / 6 linking an Anglia (105E) Advice required !

[Dalek]

Hi

I am going to 5 or 6 link the rear end of my Anglia. The Escort stuff is unlikely to fit without modifications. So i thought i would make my own (The Anglia axel is basicaly a short escort (English) type)

Does anybody know where i can get the bits individually ? Ie, boxes that i could modify, link bars that i could modify (what size is it, type of tube etc), bushes for link bars, rose joints (what size ?), inserts for the tube so the rose joints screw in, axel brackets etc.

Anybody here made there own watts linkage ?
I'm looking for good quality stuff but don't want to be selling organs to pay for them

Any advice would be greatly received as would drawings, pictures, dimentions of link bars etc. Anything that you think would be helpfull

I want rubber bushes at one end of my link bars and rose joints at the other otherwise the rose joints would get broken more easily ?

I've had look at the article on Duncan's site about 5 linking allready

[ludsonline]

Hi Dalek,
You can buy a kit from Peter Lloyd or Rally Design for £130/£140 this is for everything that you will need. You will need a turret kit for the rear but a Escort one should fit

Regards

Paul

[Lee H]

Someone on here was saying rally design kit did not last long on there car. I think Race are the ones to get?

Lee

[Rich]

What's a six link by the way?

[ludsonline]

4-link bars plus watts linkage

[chris_reade]

Follow this link http://www.anglia105e.co.uk/pages/mycar/5link/5link.asp
Lots of photo's on how to do it.

[Rich]

Whoa. Respect. you're nearly as crazy as I am!

The watts linkage is supposed to lower the roll centre and make it even turning both ways isn't it? My basic research though was that nobody uses it because the rear roll centre's not all that critical, and a panhard rod's much lighter and simpler.

I did run my mk1 with just the panhard rod, and it's difficult to beleive that a watts linkage could have improved it. On my Starlet I'm again using a simple 5 link with coil overs, and whilst it's early days I've not seen any reason to adjust it any way - it's pretty good so far! (Oh to be able to say the same about the gearbox / clutch / engine / starting....)

[Rich]

Oh. If you want a rosejointed panhard rod, I think I saw one laying in my garage when I started to sort out at the weekend. It's about 3 foot long with left / right handed 1/2" unf joints on it from memory. Not sure how rusty it is, but I think it's straight and well proven...

I'm in Essex - mail me if you're interested and I'll take a look and see what gives - it's surpluss to requirements so I would only have kept the joints and slung it out. rich.baker@btinternet.com

[Dalek]

Cheers for the offer m8 but i'm determind to have a watts (it looks cool)

Dumb Question --> Does the 4 link bars have to be the same length ?

Cheers
Craig

[Retromotorsport]

In an ideal world Yes, but then in an ideal world we would all have our cars allready. as long as the didtance isnt to great it will be fine, if the top arms are shorter dont set the diff nose down so much as it will go down in squat.

[Dalek]

Cheers m8

[ludsonline]

what angle should the diff be set at and also the engine angle?

[Retromotorsport]

4degrees down, which engine? try to get the engine flat.

[Clint]

4 degrees down if your rallying, for track set them up at zero.

Interestingly the rally prep book says 4 degrees negative, in a chance conversation with Gartrac I was told they only ran this setup on one rally and it DIDNT work, they laugh at the fact someone copied thier build sheet from that race and it was wrong.

[Retromotorsport]

and for mainly road use? 2 degrees or 4?

[ludsonline]

The engine will either be 2ltr Pinto, 2ltr Zetec or a 1500Gt Pre-crossflow with either a type 9 or or 2000e 4-speed depending on engine

[ludsonline]

Is this for equal length 4-link bars or unequal length bars?

[Dalek]

Nooooooooooooooooooo...... don't waste your Anglia by putting a Pinto in it m8... you know it won't handle with 21 stone lump up front....

It'll be quick in a straight line but it will understeer like crazy with all that weight up front

[Retromotorsport]

If the tops are shorter then the nose will drop as the suspension is compressed, so static set it flater

[ludsonline]

So if the top bars are shorter 2º is correct? for equal lenght bars 4º?

Cheers

[Dalek]

This is turning into a diffnod discussion, which isn't a bad thing actually

Anybody got any pictures of Anglia's or is that Anglai that have been 5/6 linked ? Underneath and under the back seat etc.
Cheers
Craig

[ludsonline]

Yes Me, it is the M****n rear end

[Mike_Jones]

[Retromotorsport]

oh sod it , you do the turetts and i'll come up with a 4 link backend , no watts or panhard needed for 300.just bring the car to me next month

[Retromotorsport]

and yes i did just hit my head on a bloody roll cage of this capri thats in here at the moment, tyring to get the seat out, fort knox would be easier to get something out off, but the offer still stands, gonna cry now, Bye

[krongthip]

cheers up