2.0 Duratec Tarmac Mk2 Escort

[nigelonich]

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Thanks. I bought the car from Motorwise in Ayrshire and although the shell was mostly good the rest was pretty poor. However, there was nothing that didn't sell for a decent price and it ended up a reasonable price for a rolling shell. I could have fixed the engine and spent about a grand and had a running but scruffy car but building the car is great fun and a good hobby. I got the 90 degree bend for the Laminova today and decided to get a custom Duratec radiator from Ralloy with a 45 degree top tapping which will plumb into the Laminova nicely. Anyone want a what looks like GRP4 Fabrications Galway mk2 alloy radiator to suit Duratec? Its going on ebay in a week or so.

[nigelonich]

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I wasn't happy with the radiator so I measured up and got ralloy to fabricate a modified version of their duratec radiator with a different top tapping point. as shown here. I then fitted it in and the combination of the 90 degree fitting on the Laminova from THINK and the new 45 degree top tapping and its a great natural fit. fuel system next.

[ColeJersey]

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Looks Good! Keep up the Good Work

[nigelonich]

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I noticed several mk2's around recently using this pump system. Any feedback on here on it?http://www.atecautotechnic.co.uk/uk/...ssembly-4.html

[mista weava]

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I will be watching this thread develop with interest.

[GavinR]

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I noticed several mk2's around recently using this pump system. Any feedback on here on it?http://www.atecautotechnic.co.uk/uk/...ssembly-4.html

It looks similar to the one I got from Grp4 Fabrications, definitely worth it for a neat and compact installation

[nigelonich]

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I saw that one somewhere else on this forum,but that's a better image and very helpful. What's the total cost including the mount and the pump, filter etc? I don't understand why people use inlet and outlet filters can you explain why its not just inlet?

I just had a look and its about 700 euro. Ill assess my options!

[GavinR]

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Yes it's not cheap!

My engine builder (HT Racing) said an outlet filter was more important and there was no need for an inlet filter, and I also used XR3i spec fuel pumps instead of Bosch 044 pumps as I don't need that much fuel for my spec of engine

[nigelonich]

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Sorry for the lack of update but workload and personal life took me to the decision to engage some experts to move the cars progress forward. As you can see this has been one of the best decisions yet. VW Pure Grey in case your are wondering!

[FOSSIE]

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Lovely work, love the colour too

Can you explain the theory behind fitting the Laminova in the top radiator hose rather than the bottom, cooler, one?

[Graham]

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simple, ideal oil temp is close to the max your coolant should ever be, so the top hose will still take heat out the oil, and more importantly perhaps, it will heat cold oil much faster

[nigelonich]

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The Laminova gets cold oil up to temperature fast and keeps it there. Premier Power gave me this tip and I couldnt see a downside. Additionally, when you have an engine failure a conventional heat exchanger is likely to be contaminated where as a Laminova can be re-used. PaulAlex car on here has one too but plenty more about I am sure.

[Graham]

Re: 2.0 Duratec Tarmac Mk2 Escort

I saw that one somewhere else on this forum,but that's a better image and very helpful. What's the total cost including the mount and the pump, filter etc? I don't understand why people use inlet and outlet filters can you explain why its not just inlet?

I just had a look and its about 700 euro. Ill assess my options!

its easy to clog injectors, pumps themselves wear and containate the fuel, hense you must have a filter after the pump, but injection fuel pumps are easily jammed with debris too, i know to my cost as i lost a whole event from swarf/rubbish trapped inside a new fuel tank being sucked up the pump and jamming it, i wasnt amused, a whole days travelling. tow car fuel cost and an entry fee all for 30 competitive seconds! so from then on i always filtered fuel going in and out of the pump

[FOSSIE]

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The Laminova gets cold oil up to temperature fast and keeps it there. Premier Power gave me this tip and I couldnt see a downside. Additionally, when you have an engine failure a conventional heat exchanger is likely to be contaminated where as a Laminova can be re-used. PaulAlex car on here has one too but plenty more about I am sure.

It seems there's more than one way to skin a cat; several engine builders have advised me to plumb the Laminova the same way you have, but I got conflicting advice from Laminova themselves; I'll not bore you to death but the long & short was that the system will be better at warming up the oil (on startup) when plumbed in the hot side, yet it'd be better for cooling the oil when plumbed in the cold side... You have to decide what's more important to you; warming up the engine quickly, or cooling it properly when it's getting thrashed? Personally I think that for a competition car, the latter is more important, but then again as yet my laminova is still in it's box so i can't really speak from experience.

It's important to remember that we're only talking very small differences in temperature here, a few degrees at most, between the top & bottom hoses on your radiator. So it's not like the laminova will have drastically different effects plumbed in the hot side or cold side. In fact, the Laminova distributor I got mine from told me that it'll work anywhere in the system, hot or cold, and that I should mount it wherever plumbing/packaging is easiest!

[nigelonich]

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Some updates from DEN Motorsport>

http://denmotorsport.co.uk/gallery/nigel-mcclean/

As much as it would have been fun to do myself there is no way I could have had results like this in such a timescale.