DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

[Pushrod King]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

unless you want to run in the almost anything goes class A you cannot modify the pick up points.

Does that mean that all of the escorts in class d should be in class a

[Doug@g19engineering]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Does that mean that all of the escorts in class d should be in class a

Good point!

[chatteris]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Alternatively I could run a CVH (stop laughing chaps) as was fitted in a sierra but in the form of a 1600 turbo which also fits into class C

Didn't they also make an 1800 cvh or would the extra capacity put you in a different class

[andypipe]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Does that mean that all of the escorts in class d should be in class a

The rules state that 5 linking is an exception:

5.8.1 Class A unrestricted
5.8.2 Class B-E unrestricted but standard pick-up points must be retained although not necessarily
used. Additions or modifications of springs, shock absorbers, and suspension heights are
permitted. The fitting of adjustable suspension components and Watts linkage is permitted.
Rear sub-frames, used for suspension and brake components only, may be removed.
5.8.3 For live axle RWD cars is permissible to adapt the floor pan to accommodate additional axle
location link, but the standard pick up points must be retained.

[markb]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Didn't they also make an 1800 cvh or would the extra capacity put you in a different class

1800 cvh is a shocking engine.. totally useless for turbo charging and apparently no better for anything else other than weighing in.

[markb]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

i wonder if the rules would permit a zvh.. i imagine not as the block wouldn't be one that was used for original fitment?

[david_white]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

The point with the cvh is that with a turbo 1600cc 8 valve is the maximum size for class c anyway (if I remember correctly-Graham?)

[david_white]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Taken from DMN regs;

Class C Up to 2000cc: multi-valve. Up to 2500cc dual -valve Up to 1600cc: forced

induction

Classes B, C, D & E.
The engine block must be as that fitted to the original homologated model, or a subsequent
variant as produced by the manufacturer and have a crankshaft which is interchangeable with
the original unit. All these major components must remain in their original location as envisaged
by the manufacturer within 5cm.
In the event of any doubt as to the legality of any engine which uses a later type cylinder block
than was originally fitted as a production version the competitor must produce technical data or
workshop manuals for both the original engine block and the replacement which shows both

blocks have the same number and diameter of main bearing journals

[chatteris]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

so would a 2.4 cologne v6 from a late mk3 granada be ok then?. ive got a sapphire with a very good shell that i am wondering what to do with once ive used the gearbox for my truck

[david_white]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

so would a 2.4 cologne v6 from a late mk3 granada be ok then?. ive got a sapphire with a very good shell that i am wondering what to do with once ive used the gearbox for my truck

Yeah, if you could get any power out of it in N/A form, I doubt it would give a decent 2.1-2.2 pinto sierra a run for its money though

[Graham]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

so would a 2.4 cologne v6 from a late mk3 granada be ok then?. ive got a sapphire with a very good shell that i am wondering what to do with once ive used the gearbox for my truck

yes as far as the rules go, but to be honest i think you would have to put a lot of effort into developing a very high reving engine for it to be competitive

[Graham]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

Class C Up to 2000cc: multi-valve. Up to 2500cc dual -valve Up to 1600cc: forced
induction


Classes B, C, D & E.
The engine block must be as that fitted to the original homologated model, or a subsequent
variant as produced by the manufacturer and have a crankshaft which is interchangeable with
the original unit. All these major components must remain in their original location as envisaged
by the manufacturer within 5cm.
In the event of any doubt as to the legality of any engine which uses a later type cylinder block
than was originally fitted as a production version the competitor must produce technical data or
workshop manuals for both the original engine block and the replacement which shows both
blocks have the same number and diameter of main bearing journals

hmmm,
they looks familiar, i wonder who wrote them rules....................................

[david_white]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

hmmm,
they looks familiar, i wonder who wrote them rules....................................

We need to meet up one evening and start writing next years

Why does the cvh need to be very high revving, I thought they made loads of torque and over 250bhp relatively easily with a hybrid turbo, accralites etc

[FF_Mark]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

1300 bike engine with turbo ? should be good for 300bhp and save lots of weight ?

[david_white]

Re: DW's 3dr Cossie 24v TT Racecar

1300 bike engine with turbo ? should be good for 300bhp and save lots of weight ?

a. bike engines are banned, even in class A

b. engines for classes E up to B must retain at least the origional crank fitted to that type of car, ie you can retro fit a 16v head but not a totally different block