Escort Suspension issues

[jonsey]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

Mine turns in really good aswell. It just coks the rear wheel. My brother mk2 is axactly the same set up as mine but with a vauhall red top. I do run a lot of castor tho.

[Erikmex]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

From the photos it looks as if you dont have enough rrear suspension travel....maybe its too high at the front and low at the rear aswell as being sprung to soft at the front???

[jonsey]

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It is lower on the back than the front. I have std height front, and 40mm lowering blocks on the back, but it sits less than 1" lower on the back. I dont think its running out of travel on the back as there nno crashing noises / bumps etc.

[Erikmex]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

It is lower on the back than the front. I have std height front, and 40mm lowering blocks on the back, but it sits less than 1" lower on the back. I dont think its running out of travel on the back as there nno crashing noises / bumps etc.

I mean suspension drop rather than travel, as the rear rolls once its reached the end of its downward travel it will want to lift the rear, especially if the front is soft and has more travel than the rear???

[jonsey]

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I see what you mean about drop but how can I get it to drop any more as it's on leaf springs. I suppose I can only stiffen the front so it doesn't needs so much!

[Erikmex]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

I see what you mean about drop but how can I get it to drop any more as it's on leaf springs. I suppose I can only stiffen the front so it doesn't needs so much!

By removing the lowering block the rear wheel will sit lower, or stiffen the front?.

[GP4]

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By removing the lowering block the rear wheel will sit lower, or stiffen the front?.

All that removing the lowering block will succeed in doing is raising the rear of the car......

The whole car looks too soft to me. You need to go through it and see exactly what you've got...what dampers, struts, springs etc, as it's all a bit of a guess at the moment. It could all be standard and/or knackered so you're shooting in the dark. If you get stuck pop the car over to my workshop on the Capel Hendre Ind Estate and I'd be happy to have a quick look over it and see if I can maybe point you in the right direction.

[Erikmex]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

All that removing the lowering block will succeed in doing is raising the rear of the car......

The whole car looks too soft to me. You need to go through it and see exactly what you've got...what dampers, struts, springs etc, as it's all a bit of a guess at the moment. It could all be standard and/or knackered so you're shooting in the dark. If you get stuck pop the car over to my workshop on the Capel Hendre Ind Estate and I'd be happy to have a quick look over it and see if I can maybe point you in the right direction.

With the weight off the inside rear wheel once the suspension has reached full drop the 40mm lowering block will place the wheel 40mm higher increasing the potential for it to lift.

[Erikmex]

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I bet if you lower and stiffen the front it won't happen, or stiffen front and raise back by removing or putting in a smaller lowering block.

[Erikmex]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

This car is set up more like a fwd drive should be where the front is softer and has more travel than the rear, that's why it's lifting a rear wheel, it should want to lift a front more, the suspension needs altered to change the roll/stiffness from front to rear.

[GP4]

Re: Escort Suspension issues

With the weight off the inside rear wheel once the suspension has reached full drop the 40mm lowering block will place the wheel 40mm higher increasing the potential for it to lift.

On all the Escorts I work with full drop is governed by the damper hitting the end of its travel...not the leaf spring. So the fact that there's a lowering block between the saddle and the spring is immaterial...the axle centre is still in the same place on full drop, the leaf would simply be the thickness of the lowering block further away from it.

Anyway, whatever, I thought the point was to stop the car behaving like a ship on the ocean...which I'd imagine means stiffening it up somewhere along the line.

[Erikmex]

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On all the Escorts I work with full drop is governed by the damper hitting the end of its travel...not the leaf spring. So the fact that there's a lowering block between the saddle and the spring is immaterial...the axle centre is still in the same place on full drop, the leaf would simply be the thickness of the lowering block further away from it.

Anyway, whatever, I thought the point was to stop the car behaving like a ship on the ocean...which I'd imagine means stiffening it up somewhere along the line.

I think your missing my point mate, of course its determined by the damper length, think of it this way, damper has reached its full extension....now the wheel/axle....with a lowering block placed between the leaf and the axle the wheel will be 40mm higher up with the block than without......so without the lowering block will be 40mm lower to the ground reducing its potential to leave the ground.

[Erikmex]

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If this car had a front ARB instead of compression struts.......or stiffer springs, it would not lift a rear wheel, on its current set up which is too soft at the front....(not the rear) if you removed the lowering block it would be less likely to lift a wheel.....my old hillclimb car had 146lb rears (which aint soft at all) with between 250-300lb front springs AND a twin cam arb......my current car is almost exactly the same set up as this, even the same tyres and the only diff is mine has a 1inch lowering block and an ARB.

[GP4]

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I think your missing my point mate, of course its determined by the damper length, think of it this way, damper has reached its full extension....now the wheel/axle....with a lowering block placed between the leaf and the axle the wheel will be 40mm higher up with the block than without......so without the lowering block will be 40mm lower to the ground reducing its potential to leave the ground.

This is a customers car I've been going through for a week...but it's handily suspended with no rims on at the moment. Can you please explain to me (because I'm missing it!!) how removing the spacer block between the leaf and axle will lower the axle? It's on full drop...the axle won't go anywhere? The lowering block only has the effect of raising the axle when it's got the weight of the car on it...not when it's suspended by the damper on full extension.

[jonsey]

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Looking at the photo multi leaf springs look like they are about 4 mm thick so if the block was the issue do all escorts with multi leaf lift the rear wheel? All my suspension is new and quantified except the front struts