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  • alladdin
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    Re: Graham's bmw 2002 race car.

    glad you have made a breakthrough

    i think your "excitement " is something only us petrol heads understand

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    • Graham
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      Originally posted by alladdin
      glad you have made a breakthrough

      i think your "excitement " is something only us petrol heads understand


      been digging around the spread sheet which has also confirmed the tests, years ago i ported the hell out of a carb type small port 1800 head, it made more flow but a never used it because it meant fitting 8 new valve inserts and risking breaking through everywhere but it loks like i have to revisit that head, here it is against the best ive managed with a 2.0 head



      as i sit here i remember more reasons why i didnt use that head, very small exhaust ports which require a different manifold, inlet manifolds are different too
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      • Turboman
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        Any progress Graham

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        • Graham
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          well funny you say should say that, nothing with the engine, im in the process of building an s14 for a customer, and my head is saying build a short stroke screamer of 2.0 s14 for the 02. serious bucks though, but the is sort of some progress, in just over a week its going to off to have a cage fitted, i have had the cage for years but never got around to fit it, so i have a chap doing it for me, his unit is close enough to mine we can simply push it over to him ( it is sitting on a pallet with wheels attached)
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          • Graham
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            ive also decided how im going to build the car now, my heart said, screaming 16v engine, sequential box, ultra trick brakes and suspension, 12 inch wide wheels so as to fill the arches and so on, BUT id end up spending 25-30k and the only place i could race it would be against thunder saloons and such like which would eat it alive on anything but the very smallest tightest circuits, and an 02 is pretty light weight and fragile so i really dont fancy racing against cars which have much higher straight line speeds and twice the weight, so the big arches are going to come off and go into storage, and im going to re-build it with standard arches and most of the bits i already have to suit a couple of the classic championships. not forgetting ive still got the E30 race car
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            • Graham
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              And there was progress





              thats probably all for now, what i want to do first is get the E30 up and running
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              • Graham
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                we have a bit more progress, the really wide rear arches have come off, thats revealed standard arches with the lips removed ( to suit turbo arches) whoever did it thought didnt weld the inner and outer skins back together, they just filled the gap with filler! we have now cut (the n/s) quarter away so we can but weld an arch repair section in


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                • 4parajon
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                  Re: Graham's bmw 2002 race car.

                  Good to see its still moving along mate.
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                  • Graham
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                    Originally posted by 4parajon
                    Good to see its still moving along mate.
                    from my angle yes and no, over the last few years my business has expanded rapidly and staff numbers grown, but right now im short of work for one of my young guys so this is keeping him occupied as well as teaching him new skills, so yes its good but i really need him doing customers cars not mine lol!
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                    • rallyrob
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                      Re: Graham's bmw 2002 race car.

                      Originally posted by Graham
                      from my angle yes and no, over the last few years my business has expanded rapidly and staff numbers grown, but right now im short of work for one of my young guys so this is keeping him occupied as well as teaching him new skills, so yes its good but i really need him doing customers cars not mine lol!
                      The new skills thing is good. As your car is not quite as important as a customers car. At least if he makes a mistake you haven't got an irate customer saying you mucked my car up... He's only got to answer to the boss rather than the boss and the customer.

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                      • Graham
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                        Originally posted by rallyrob
                        The new skills thing is good. As your car is not quite as important as a customers car. At least if he makes a mistake you haven't got an irate customer saying you mucked my car up... He's only got to answer to the boss rather than the boss and the customer.
                        yes the young-un is making some nice butt welded joints, infact his welding is better than guy who does most of our classic stuff and he has been doing it for 40 years!
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                        • Sweetcorne
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                          Just Read this entire thread, Great work. I do love the old Bms. I had two, whilst I was serving in Germany. Wish I still had them.

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                          • Graham
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                            back on it again, o/s this time, arch repair section and lower quarter repair panels butt welded in

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                            • jbr39
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                              Looking very nice will have to have a proper look over it when I drop the engine bits off for the Blue Rs

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                              • Graham
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                                had young Sam doing some more today, rear lower quarter fully welded in, the inner and outer arches now welded together and we have welded a spare wheel well back in. Some one had previous cut it out and replaced it with a riveted in Alloy sheet, the repro wheel well was expensive and even then didnt have a lip so we had to fold an hammer one into it.

                                there we a couple of reasons why i put the well back in, firstly it does add a bit of structural strength because a 2002 has absolutely no form of chassis rail or structural member rearward of the rear suspension. Secondly i want to to look fairly correct, the other hole in the boot floor was where the OE fuel tank goes, again it was covered with an alloy plate, if i had a standard tank i would cut teh bottom off it an bolt it back in, so again it would look correct, but i havnt got one, so either the alloy plate will go back or a will fab something in steel which will resemble the top of a tank


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