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  • Stylussprinter
    Spanner Monkey
    • Sep 2006
    • 347

    #31
    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

    Unfortunately it didn't start on the button but took two or three minutes winding , hearing it fire , fade and try again. It restarted easy enough after I let it reach temp ' , stopped for five minutes and restarted. Dunnell sent me a new air temp sensor which I plugged in to see if the ecu led would stop flashing ---- no difference. I'd already bulb checked the wiring to it on Saturday . It all points towards the ecu cold start but he's checked and says not ???? The breather off the block plus cam cover both go into a container which has air holes at the top. There is normally a little oily water (tablespoon) in there after a competition event . Today there was a similar amount of only water ---- condensation?) I can see a 260 mile round trip with the trailer to Dunnell in sight?

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    • Pushrod King
      Pole Position
      Decade Plus User
      • Feb 2006
      • 5028

      #32
      Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

      [QUOTE=Stylussprinter;1693229]The pics ..





      space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.



      QUOTE]

      I'd say he wasn't trying hard enough (or maybe trying too hard) Out of interest I looked up both of your times,he did a best time of 102.24, you did a best time of 95.48..........Last time I was at Goodwood in my Escort I set a best single lap time of 98.76 . I ran in modprod class 9 btw
      Last edited by Pushrod King; 23-11-2010, 21:29.

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      • Stylussprinter
        Spanner Monkey
        • Sep 2006
        • 347

        #33
        Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

        [QUOTE=Pushrod King;1734339]
        Originally posted by Stylussprinter
        The pics ..





        space framed Escort trying hard to beat my time , exiting Goodwood's chicane. 15th May 2010.



        QUOTE]

        I'd say he wasn't trying hard enough (or maybe trying too hard) Out of interest I looked up both of your times,he did a best time of 102.24, you did a best time of 95.48..........Last time I was at Goodwood in my Escort I set a best single lap time of 98.76 . I ran in modprod class 9 btw
        That's a really quick time in a '' real '' Escort without coilovers and normal weight etc . I'm around 3 sec's off my best ever single lap at Goodwood but that was a few years back . My best flying lap is 91.8 sec's but NOT in recent years .
        Have we been at the same venue before ------- what colour is your Escort M1 or M2 ? Put a pic ' up here then I'll recognise you out and about

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        • Stylussprinter
          Spanner Monkey
          • Sep 2006
          • 347

          #34
          Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

          Yesterday a friend on my ' club ' website said he thought my description of the aweful cold start as opposed to the easy hot start could be the water temp ' sensor , possibly due to over heating issues that can lead to the sensor altering it's range. I had planned to try and fool the ECU into thinking it was in hot running mode which coincided with my friend's advice---- so this morning (all frosty outside) I propped up my 2kw fan heater on top of the waterail where the bronze sensor screws in. Left it there for over 10 mins then poured boiling water directly over the sensor/waterail , turned the key and it started in about 10 sec's , not immediately but then the water in the sensor area won't have been proper hot temp , so looks like the ECU isn't getting a cold temp ' reading . I'm assuming from this that my sensor is '' duff '' and not the ECU cold start function . What do you guys think ??

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          • Pushrod King
            Pole Position
            Decade Plus User
            • Feb 2006
            • 5028

            #35
            Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

            [QUOTE=Stylussprinter;1734471]
            Originally posted by Pushrod King

            That's a really quick time in a '' real '' Escort without coilovers and normal weight etc . I'm around 3 sec's off my best ever single lap at Goodwood but that was a few years back . My best flying lap is 91.8 sec's but NOT in recent years .
            Have we been at the same venue before ------- what colour is your Escort M1 or M2 ? Put a pic ' up here then I'll recognise you out and about
            Here you go:



            I won my class in the all circuit championship and both acsmc championships in 2007.That was on 6" wide wheels and with a 1700 crossflow,I Think I'd be even faster now with 8" rear and 7" fronts and the new 1800 crossflow.

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            • Stylussprinter
              Spanner Monkey
              • Sep 2006
              • 347

              #36
              Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

              [QUOTE=Pushrod King;1734556]
              Originally posted by Stylussprinter
              Here you go:


              That's a lovely example of the MK1. I'll look out for you next year then we can chat and tyre kick ! I've ordered a new water temp sender which should be with me tomorrow , so hopefully my fiasco with cold starting is finished .
              I won my class in the all circuit championship and both acsmc championships in 2007.That was on 6" wide wheels and with a 1700 crossflow,I Think I'd be even faster now with 8" rear and 7" fronts and the new 1800 crossflow.

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              • Pushrod King
                Pole Position
                Decade Plus User
                • Feb 2006
                • 5028

                #37
                Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                Yes it sounds like the water temp sender,you can test the sensor using a multimeter but as it's probably a standard (cheap) Ford part it's worth changing it to eliminate it from being the cause of your problem.
                I don't sprint my car anymore as I now race it but may try and do the 2 lap twmc sprint at Goodwood if time/race meetings permit.

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                • Stylussprinter
                  Spanner Monkey
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 347

                  #38
                  Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                  Water temp sensor replaced today and she fired up immediately . Problem solved .

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                  • mervhill
                    Pit Crew
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1268

                    #39
                    Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                    Excellent stuff mate! A weight off the mind I'm sure! Stupid electronics!!

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                    • cossie matt
                      Mechanic
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 983

                      #40
                      Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                      Originally posted by Stylussprinter
                      The pics ..

                      18)Tim Benbow SSC Stylus manufacturer making the first cut . I'd already designed the hinge system to allow full opening before the body came .You can see he's in thinking mode ---- think twice --- cut once .

                      Hi Mate

                      I was reading through your thread with interest as a good mate of mine had a very nice Vauxhall powered Stylus and I was interested in your starting problems when bugger me this last pic, there is my dear friend Andy Bailey who as I'm sure you know passed away last year very suddenly of cancer. RIP Andy

                      Made me laugh though as he always had a cuppa in his hand

                      So how did you know Andy? Do you know his bruv too?
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                      • Stylussprinter
                        Spanner Monkey
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 347

                        #41
                        Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                        I met Andy in 1997 when looking at Pete Powell's demo Stylus . He took me to see Andy so I could see one under construction . Andy's build quality exceeded Pete's by a country mile !! Soon after that I ordered a kit and Andy was my inspiration to build well .He was and lived F1 24hrs a day and was a lovely man. Sadley I went to see him in hospital twice before his eventual funeral very soon after. Once my car was finished I started competing with Andy in support more often than not. He gave me a compliment(I think?) by saying my car wasn't bad for a farmer turned landscaper !!! Yes , I know Marty too , at that time they did most things together . Andy built more of Marty's westy than Marty ! I trailered itdown to Swindon for it's race spec loom then again to BTB and back for the bespoke exhaust manifold and silencer . Andy gave me so many little bits and pieces to fettle the car , Marty now doing the same and we are still in touch. Seems like you are near to me in Herts ? I'm between Tring and Aylesbury , perhaps we could meet for a tyre kick in my shed , ha ha ! Rob

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                        • cossie matt
                          Mechanic
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 983

                          #42
                          Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                          Hi Rob

                          Small world eh??? I've known them since about 1995. I got to know them both through Steve at SBD. We used to go sprinting most weekends when Steve first started and we spent many a good weekend away racing. Had a superb holiday with them in Florida in 2000, went drag racing and to the Don Garlits museum which is just like a mecca for any petrol head. Andy loved a V8 as I'm sure you saw his truck. Had a brilliant trip to the Begian GP one year too, there younger brother Johnny is a really funny guy. I hadn't seen the pair of them so much in recent years, with all the changes in there lives but always had a good laugh when we caught up again. Must admit I was absolutely gutted when I heard of the seriousness of his illness. One of lifes really nice guys. We must have brushed shoulders at some point as I was at his funeral too.

                          I know what you mean about Martys westie. I did a lot of the chassis mods and parts machining as we were building the two westfields side by side when steve was doing the new race car. Does Marty still have the Westy?

                          I live in Welwyn mate so not far really. Be good to meet up at some point.

                          Keep up the great posts on the stylus, great reading, I wish I was as good for my own thread
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                          • Stylussprinter
                            Spanner Monkey
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 347

                            #43
                            Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                            I met Johny a few times but not as often as Andy/Marty as they had the same house. The Westy was sold very soon after Marty moved house without ever having turned a wheel in Marty's hands . It did get a magazine test and write up when Steve built his track version but then Marty sold it to a guy in Scotland for £10,000 less than build cost !!! That guy then won his Northern championship more than once with it. It was a very special car which you well know ! I have a video of me at Goodwood which , if you turn the volume up , has Andy talking on it ---- I often listen to it too. Andy had other toys besides his Stylus ---- a V8 yanky pickup in mint condition , a Droop Snoot Forenza with all the right bits !!! and for some reason a little Trabant ! The Firenza was his next project which had already been very well chassis prepared. Had a ZF box too ! Better stop now as it's getting off topic ? Rob

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                            • mervhill
                              Pit Crew
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1268

                              #44
                              Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                              It's your thread mate, you carry on. I, as Matt's brother, also met Andy and Marty a few times, those two were as thick as thieves, always had plenty of stories.

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                              • Stylussprinter
                                Spanner Monkey
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 347

                                #45
                                Re: Stylussprinter's Stylus

                                Originally posted by mervhill
                                It's your thread mate, you carry on. I, as Matt's brother, also met Andy and Marty a few times, those two were as thick as thieves, always had plenty of stories.
                                Even more amazing ------ the small world is becoming a golf ball , sorry for chosing such a boring sport comparison ! We really should meet sometime , two brothers on this forum and youboth knew Andy . That's the one disadvantage with my car not being road going ----- can't meet up on a drive out to check out our cars.

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