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  • Roadsport
    Racer
    Decade Plus User
    • Dec 2008
    • 2106

    Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

    Some DIY exhaust manifold bits.
    The flange should arrive in few days.
    Now I have the DIY exhaust manifold bits ordered so when I can't work on wiring I'll do the manifold.
    Cant wait to get these two bits done... then its only plumping the fuel,oil and water lines.

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    • Dazzabhoy
      Spanner Monkey
      • Jul 2009
      • 308

      Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

      where do you get so much citric acid from?

      is it just a battery charger you use for providing the current?

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      • Roadsport
        Racer
        Decade Plus User
        • Dec 2008
        • 2106

        Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

        Originally posted by Dazzabhoy
        where do you get so much citric acid from?

        is it just a battery charger you use for providing the current?
        From the local apotechary. Sold in 100g powder bags.
        The bags cost approx. 2 € a piece. I use 2-3% solution so two to three bags for every 10 liters of water.

        I use a car battery and a normal battery charger just to support the battery. Propably unnecessary tough.

        The part you need to de-rust needs to be wired negative and the other misc. metal object you need in the bucket needs to be positive. Object wired positive will corrupt and disolve so do not use anything of value.

        Make sure the two wired matals do not get in contact. This obviously will short circuit the battery and it could start a fire.

        Safer way is to just use a stronger 3-4% solution with out current. Just takes longer. I prefer this one whenever I have enough time.
        Last edited by Roadsport; 17-12-2009, 07:33.
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        • TepiTheFinn
          Pit Crew
          Decade Plus User
          • Jan 2003
          • 1226

          Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

          I bought 99% citric acid from local Agrimarket.
          Pig farmers give it to pigs suffering from diarrhea
          5 kilos of powder cost something near 20 euros.
          Cheers, Tepi

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          • Dazzabhoy
            Spanner Monkey
            • Jul 2009
            • 308

            Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

            thank you,

            looking to dip some parts as sand/soda blasting is messy and can be damaging

            also it is a very cheap way of stripping parts, would this disolve paint or would it jus tbe rust?

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            • Roadsport
              Racer
              Decade Plus User
              • Dec 2008
              • 2106

              Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

              Originally posted by Dazzabhoy
              thank you,

              looking to dip some parts as sand/soda blasting is messy and can be damaging

              also it is a very cheap way of stripping parts, would this disolve paint or would it jus tbe rust?
              It certaily will remove any loose paint.
              "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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              • Dazzabhoy
                Spanner Monkey
                • Jul 2009
                • 308

                Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                what would you recommend to clean up a pair of webers?

                could i use a dip? or is it a case of some elbow grease and some wire wool?

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                • Roadsport
                  Racer
                  Decade Plus User
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2106

                  Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                  Originally posted by Dazzabhoy
                  what would you recommend to clean up a pair of webers?

                  could i use a dip? or is it a case of some elbow grease and some wire wool?
                  Don't know the remedy for that one. Maybe a total disassemblying and some king or blasting.
                  "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                  • Roadsport
                    Racer
                    Decade Plus User
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2106

                    Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                    That's my new exhaust manifold

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                    The flange has not arrived yet. But when it does I'll have a go of some cutting and welding.

                    I was advised to do 800 or 900 mm long primary pipes. But I do not know what are these measurements based on.
                    Any thoughs? Anyone?
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                    • Graham
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                      • Feb 2006
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                      Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                      Originally posted by Roadsport
                      That's my new exhaust manifold

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                      The flange has not arrived yet. But when it does I'll have a go of some cutting and welding.

                      I was advised to do 800 or 900 mm long primary pipes. But I do not know what are these measurements based on.
                      Any thoughs? Anyone?
                      these tubes good good, where did you get emm, how much £££ and whats sizes pleeseeeee
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                      • Roadsport
                        Racer
                        Decade Plus User
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2106

                        Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                        Originally posted by graham bahr
                        these tubes good good, where did you get emm, how much £££ and whats sizes pleeseeeee
                        Got them from Martelius Exhaust from Finland.
                        www.martelius.com (also in english)

                        They were not too expensive 74 euros per set of eight.
                        These tubes are 41,5mm outer diameter with 1,5 mm wall thickness so 40mm inner dia. 180 degrees within 80mm bend.

                        38mm and 44,5mm outer dia tubes available too. Also available with tighter 180 deg. in 70mm bends.
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                        • Kee
                          Mechanic
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 620

                          Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                          41.5mm OD with 1.5mm thickness gives 38.5mm ID
                          always look forward to updates on this, i'm planning a zetec se conversion on my fiesta at some point.

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                          • alladdin
                            World Champion
                            Decade Plus User
                            • May 2005
                            • 9248

                            Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                            great thread.
                            if you cant get citric acid you can use a carbonate of soda solution (as i have done in past).
                            to make carbonate of soda, first make a solution of bicarbonate of soda in a saucepan (3 table spoons from memory) any bicarb / baking soda from asda etc. then boil it. the bubbles coming off are 1 of the carbonates (carbon dioxide?) anyway it leaves a carbonate of soda solution which you mix into a large bucket of water and start the electrolysis with battery etc.

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                            • Roadsport
                              Racer
                              Decade Plus User
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2106

                              Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                              Originally posted by Kee
                              41.5mm OD with 1.5mm thickness gives 38.5mm ID
                              always look forward to updates on this, i'm planning a zetec se conversion on my fiesta at some point.

                              Good point!I was only assuming the wall thickness. I'll have to do some measuring.

                              Thanks for the compliments Kee. I'll try to keep the updates coming.
                              "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                              • Roadsport
                                Racer
                                Decade Plus User
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 2106

                                Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                                Originally posted by alladdin
                                great thread.
                                if you cant get citric acid you can use a carbonate of soda solution (as i have done in past).
                                to make carbonate of soda, first make a solution of bicarbonate of soda in a saucepan (3 table spoons from memory) any bicarb / baking soda from asda etc. then boil it. the bubbles coming off are 1 of the carbonates (carbon dioxide?) anyway it leaves a carbonate of soda solution which you mix into a large bucket of water and start the electrolysis with battery etc.

                                Thanks Alladin

                                My patience is running low with this project! I want to get it running allready!

                                But just need to keep my head cool and consentrate on the task at hand. There's still plenty to do.
                                "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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