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  • Moggy
    Spanner Monkey
    • May 2008
    • 243

    Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

    Looking very good matey

    Is your bulkhead standard and how much clearance do you get behind the water pipe on the back of the head?

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    • Roadsport
      Racer
      Decade Plus User
      • Dec 2008
      • 2106

      Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

      Originally posted by Moggy
      Looking very good matey

      Is your bulkhead standard and how much clearance do you get behind the water pipe on the back of the head?

      Yes the bulkhead is standard. And the clearance is very tight. Now the water outlet in the back of the cylinder head is about one centimeter away from the bulkhead. But thats enough and I did not need to move my gearbox lenght wise nor modify the propeller shaft. So no modifications other than box and engine mounts.

      For your escort project I'd strongly recommend dry sump, perhaps you should go for the Titan one this time , and this RWD water outlet from Paul @ BPJ Services. You should not neet a remote oil filtrer.
      "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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      • Moggy
        Spanner Monkey
        • May 2008
        • 243

        Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

        Originally posted by Roadsport
        Yes the bulkhead is standard. And the clearance is very tight. Now the water outlet in the back of the cylinder head is about one centimeter away from the bulkhead. But thats enough and I did not need to move my gearbox lenght wise nor modify the propeller shaft. So no modifications other than box and engine mounts.

        For your escort project I'd strongly recommend dry sump, perhaps you should go for the Titan one this time , and this RWD water outlet from Paul @ BPJ Services. You should not neet a remote oil filtrer.
        Good that you got it so far back then.....I will be very interested to see it from underneath once mounted to see how that Titan system fits relative to the crossmember.

        There is no 'perhaps' about me going to a new sump supplier after the last time!

        Maybe our Darrian will go 1400 later in 2010........then the Escort can have the 1600cc.....we will see how we get on with it over the next season..........most likley though the Escort will see the 1400cc.

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        • Roadsport
          Racer
          Decade Plus User
          • Dec 2008
          • 2106

          Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

          Originally posted by Moggy
          Good that you got it so far back then.....I will be very interested to see it from underneath once mounted to see how that Titan system fits relative to the crossmember.

          There is no 'perhaps' about me going to a new sump supplier after the last time!

          Maybe our Darrian will go 1400 later in 2010........then the Escort can have the 1600cc.....we will see how we get on with it over the next season..........most likley though the Escort will see the 1400cc.

          Lowering the rack would allow the engine to be mounted a little bit lower. Or allow more clearance.

          But in my case, as I have the suspension lowerded so much, I needed to raise the rack to make the geometry better. Thats why I decided to change the crosmember to a original rather than world cup. So I have some issues clearing the rack. Hence the engine and gearbox raising.
          As for the Titan oil pump I may have to modify one oil pipe. But we'll see.

          But I can take some pics for you when I get everything sorted.
          Last edited by Roadsport; 15-11-2009, 20:37.
          "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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          • Roadsport
            Racer
            Decade Plus User
            • Dec 2008
            • 2106

            Now aligned and the clearances sorted

            Got the engine aligned today. And the height is at a right level now for the sump and pipes to clear the steering rack.
            I needed to remove the oil filter and go witht the remote filter. otherwise the engine could not have been aligned straight. And I want it to be straight. And the added bonus is a bigger oil filter and an take off for a sender.

            Pics for you Moggy. Engine now rests on pieces of wood. The plan is to manufacture the engine mounts pretty much in situ and bolt the engine to its current position. Then I'll make the gearbox mount.

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            In this picture you can see the LH engine mount flange. Between the sandwitch plate and the oil pump. It is to be bolted to the alloy oil pump back plate I have had done earlier. The flange is to be welded on to a rod and then bolted to the chassis.

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            Thats me cought on film.
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            • Moggy
              Spanner Monkey
              • May 2008
              • 243

              Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

              very nice

              It's deffinately comming together nicely now. Engine looks very nice in there...........stop tempting me!

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              • Roadsport
                Racer
                Decade Plus User
                • Dec 2008
                • 2106

                Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                Originally posted by Moggy
                very nice

                It's deffinately comming together nicely now. Engine looks very nice in there...........stop tempting me!

                Thanks Moggy. It now sits nicely in there. Just need a little time to make the mounts now. I'm a bit bummed that I needed to lift the gear box .But I'm very glad that I have raised the prop shaft tunnel. But I reckon the car will still have a lot lower center of gravity than it did with the pinto.

                Well ,you have more experience on these engines so you should know how tempting it is to install this engine to a Escort.
                "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                • Moggy
                  Spanner Monkey
                  • May 2008
                  • 243

                  Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                  Originally posted by Roadsport
                  Thanks Moggy.... you should know how tempting it is to install this engine to a Escort.
                  Let's see........but my guys are still wanting to go over to "the dark side".

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                  • Roadsport
                    Racer
                    Decade Plus User
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2106

                    Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                    Originally posted by Moggy
                    Let's see........but my guys are still wanting to go over to "the dark side".

                    In to the realm of Honda?
                    "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                    • Moggy
                      Spanner Monkey
                      • May 2008
                      • 243

                      Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                      Plenty of time for me to decide engines ....just great to see yours getting there.

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                      • jason33
                        Bodger
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 174

                        Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                        Very nice, keen to see what power this beast makes.

                        Looks like you have found a better solution now, but Sandy used an XU tensioner on my engine, and it has been reliable for the season.

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                        • Roadsport
                          Racer
                          Decade Plus User
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2106

                          Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                          The XU tensioner will work better for you than it woul have for me.
                          See, my tensioner is mounted on to the water pump as yous is mounted to a mounting plate wich is boletd on to the block. The mounting plate has more surface area that the water pumps mounting point.

                          As the XU tensioners center is only solid around the edges so it would benefit from a larger surface area to tighten against.
                          That's why had the waterpump housing milled for a larger suface area. And chose to use a tensioner with totally solid cenre.
                          Also the stud used with the XU tensioner felt a bit odd to begin with
                          "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                          • jason33
                            Bodger
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 174

                            Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                            Ah yes sorry, I overlooked the difference between the water pumps.

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                            • Roadsport
                              Racer
                              Decade Plus User
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2106

                              Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                              Reached one milestone again today. The engine mounts are done and painted

                              Tomorrow once the paint is dry I'll bolt them on and for the first time the engine will hang in the bay on its own.

                              Then I can have a go at the exhaust manifold. Need to find a flange for it first. But I have cunning plan...

                              The ECU and the DIY harness should arriwe next week. Just in time for the weekend.

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                              • Roadsport
                                Racer
                                Decade Plus User
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 2106

                                Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

                                One prior to painting

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