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  • Retromotorsport
    Part of the furniture
    Decade Plus User
    • Mar 2004
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    Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

    Originally posted by graham bahr
    because I specifically rewrote the rules to allow it,

    back then we had 4 linked pinto powered cars that were forced into class A when in reality they werent even very competitive as class D let alone A
    I still havnt thanked you for doing that.. Graham, thank you.

    What Graham did with that rule change closed the gap between the modern Class D's and the older car's, making for much more entertaining racing, both for the drivers and the spectators, and was something that the FWD D's that i spoke too welcomed, its the class rules that the DMN have that make it one of the (if not the best non TV championship) best championships out there.


    As for linking the Sierra, its something that i looked at years ago, using links from the rear, this gets round the floorpan modifications as in the rules the floorpan is between wheel centers... Diff unit has to remain withing 50mm of original position.. well that 50mm up and down , total of 100mm, plenty on a race car, and at the wheels, probably 150mm..........
    spirit of the competition... probably not, which is why its just been filed away.
    And as Dave said. this is a simple , easily repaired build.
    Yes, history has shown that live axled sierras have been better than the IRS cars... but, these cars have huge power, Dave's relying on balance to get the lap times, not grunt....... Lets see what happens
    Last edited by Retromotorsport; 01-12-2008, 12:28.
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    • david_white
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      • Nov 2004
      • 4831

      Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

      Hopefully i can run the car a lot stiffer that those mega powered cossies too, they would get far too twitchy on stiff springs with 500 bhp coming in with a wallop

      Besides if I just wanted to try to win at all costs I'd be putting a deposit down on a certain LAD pug engine and be building a 205, but I wanted a cheap to run, rwd car with a torquey NA engine and plenty of scope for future developement, and the sierra fits the bill perfectly.

      Now i'm off to do some work on the thing

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      • robrs2
        Racer
        Decade Plus User
        • Jun 2003
        • 2406

        Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

        How about just changing the rear arm pick up points as per the RS500. I've just got some cad drawing done for the extra brackets the 500 beams have, although they were not used on the 500 road cars. Not sure what angle it gives until i get some fitted to a beam and measure them.
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        • david_white
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          • Nov 2004
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          Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

          Right everyones been grafting on the car today and after a bit of paint and drilling the engine bay is starting to take shape.
          Water hoses are on and awaiting silicone replacements. The dry sump tank needs another inlet tigging on and a bracket to hold it to the chassis rail but thats roughly where it will go. The breather tank will sit forward a bit, between the rack and the oil tank, also bolted to the chassis rail.

          We bare metalled and painted the cam cover and top mounts too, to pretty things up a bit.

          I also fitted the bulkhead blanking plate and coil pack while andy started to modify the wiring loom...



          Thats about as far as we got before the sound of a V8 and tyre smoke marked the arrival of the painter, Ray. He already has all of the panels at the paintshop but it was the first time he's seen the car. After much pondering and grinning he called a halt to the building up of the car by saying he needed it stripped naked ready for a total repaint

          A couple of hours later, and there is only enough bolted to the car to let it roll and steer. i'll get a couple of pics tomorrow but needless to say its STRIPPED. Will start prepping it tomorrow ready for Ray to get his hands on it. God only knows what colour it will end up .....

          Thanks to the Pipes and our two apprentices for all of the work today, lets hope it all goes back together that easily

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          • Tezza2
            Mechanic
            • Sep 2005
            • 595

            Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

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            • david_white
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              • Nov 2004
              • 4831

              Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

              Started prepping the interior today, flatting down the paint and removing duct tape that didn't want to be removed, having spent 10+ years stuck to the floor and the cage.
              Clearly someone hadn't heard of grommets, each 10mm hole had 6" of tape to cover it up

              A little more still to do inside the car and then the engine bay can be prepped, although that is in pretty good nick, mostly just in need of a flat down and a blow over.





              Also removed the door bars to clean up the area below and retrieve the parts of the old loom that were jammed under there. Don't want to remove too much cage as it can be a bitch to get back in but most is easy enough to paint in situ and the screen will be out soon too. Will be fitting a 2nd set of door bars higher up to protect the driver, but the lower ones will remain as they tie nicely into the sills.



              Last edited by david_white; 07-12-2008, 22:39.

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              • angliaant
                Pit Crew
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                • Dec 2006
                • 1841

                Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                nice work dave, keep at it
                can you have a measure up of that rack for me please matey?
                and if you ever need an extra set of hands
                Wanted: Second Hand Tremec TKO 500, 600 or T56 Gearbox... Cash Waiting
                Any small welding, fabrication, engineering, paint or mechanical works undertaken, please PM for details.

                It would seem my computer skills are not good enough !!

                thanks Guys !

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                • david_white
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                  Originally posted by angliaant
                  nice work dave, keep at it
                  can you have a measure up of that rack for me please matey?
                  and if you ever need an extra set of hands
                  Sorry ant, forgot about your rack, will have a look this week.

                  Car will be going in for paint next once its all flatted down but I will need a hand re-assembling it all when it comes back if you fancy it

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                  • angliaant
                    Pit Crew
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1841

                    Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                    Originally posted by david_white
                    Sorry ant, forgot about your rack, will have a look this week.

                    Car will be going in for paint next once its all flatted down but I will need a hand re-assembling it all when it comes back if you fancy it
                    alright thanks dave

                    and yep just give me a shout
                    Wanted: Second Hand Tremec TKO 500, 600 or T56 Gearbox... Cash Waiting
                    Any small welding, fabrication, engineering, paint or mechanical works undertaken, please PM for details.

                    It would seem my computer skills are not good enough !!

                    thanks Guys !

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                    • mk2stu
                      Spanner Monkey
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 318

                      Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                      This has been a realy interesting build up looking forward to seeing it in action?what race series do you guys run in? as you seem to race at lydenn hill probably come and see some of you lot in action!

                      Keep up the good work anyway
                      do ya like dags

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                      • angliaant
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1841

                        Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                        Originally posted by mk2stu
                        This has been a realy interesting build up looking forward to seeing it in action?what race series do you guys run in? as you seem to race at lydenn hill probably come and see some of you lot in action!

                        Keep up the good work anyway
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                        is she at paint yet dave?
                        Last edited by angliaant; 16-12-2008, 21:44.
                        Wanted: Second Hand Tremec TKO 500, 600 or T56 Gearbox... Cash Waiting
                        Any small welding, fabrication, engineering, paint or mechanical works undertaken, please PM for details.

                        It would seem my computer skills are not good enough !!

                        thanks Guys !

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                        • david_white
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4831

                          Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                          Originally posted by angliaant

                          is she at paint yet dave?
                          Nearly, should be going in this week as soon as I can shake off this damn man-flu.

                          Mk2 Stu, let us know if you fancy popping down to Lydden or Brands next year, always good to get a bit more moral support and meet other turbosporters
                          We should also be visiting castle combe, silverstone, thruxston and/or snetterton at least
                          Last edited by david_white; 16-12-2008, 22:16.

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                          • mk2stu
                            Spanner Monkey
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 318

                            Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                            yeah ill defo be their its alwys nice to see the peaple and the cars for real
                            ill keep a eye on the site for dates!
                            bloody man flus taken nearly a month outta my moters build!
                            do ya like dags

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                            • david_white
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                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4831

                              Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                              Originally posted by mk2stu
                              yeah ill defo be their its alwys nice to see the peaple and the cars for real
                              ill keep a eye on the site for dates!
                              bloody man flus taken nearly a month outta my moters build!
                              Season starts in the spring, look forward to seeing you.

                              My manflu has now been down-graded to mancold so i should finish prepping the car on Saturday ready for some new paint

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                              • angliaant
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1841

                                Re: DW's (new?) Sierra N/A PINTO race car

                                Originally posted by david_white
                                Season starts in the spring, look forward to seeing you.

                                My manflu has now been down-graded to mancold so i should finish prepping the car on Saturday ready for some new paint
                                good news
                                Wanted: Second Hand Tremec TKO 500, 600 or T56 Gearbox... Cash Waiting
                                Any small welding, fabrication, engineering, paint or mechanical works undertaken, please PM for details.

                                It would seem my computer skills are not good enough !!

                                thanks Guys !

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