Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

[Moggy]

Re: DIY mani

I'd say wires will allow that too. No matter how tight I twist them thery will not be totally solid. Never been a fan of these dodgy springs I hate putting them on and taking off. Even tough I need to do it next to never I thought I'd try a shortcut this time. If the wires do not work or cope with the vibrations I'll reluctantly go back to springs.

Hows your engine doing?

You can do that, it will work.

No public engine development recently.....unless you count an oil change

Clutch was destroyed on last event, so have ended up with an EXTREMELY modified belhousing/slave cylinder arrangement. Just waiting for the paddle plate to arrive then it's all back together. next events are 28th Feb and 7th March.

[Roadsport]

Re: DIY mani

You can do that, it will work.

No public engine development recently.....unless you count an oil change

Clutch was destroyed on last event, so have ended up with an EXTREMELY modified belhousing/slave cylinder arrangement. Just waiting for the paddle plate to arrive then it's all back together. next events are 28th Feb and 7th March.

Have you decided on the Escort xmember yet? Is Jon doing the engine allready?

[Moggy]

Re: DIY mani

Have you decided on the Escort xmember yet? Is Jon doing the engine allready?

No and no.

[Tristan]

Re: DIY mani

My car is FWD , so the rock of the engine tries to stretch the system where the manifold meets the system . That's why I have a sliding joint .

[Roadsport]

Re: DIY mani

My car is FWD , so the rock of the engine tries to stretch the system where the manifold meets the system . That's why I have a sliding joint .

That makes perfect sense. If the HCS tilts backwards it pulls the manifold and rest of the exhaust system. To get the same effect in a RWD car the engine needs to pull itself forward. Which is pretty impossible in any significan degree.

[Tristan]

Re: DIY mani

To get the same effect in a RWD car the engine needs to pull itself forward. Which is pretty impossible in any significan degree.

Yup! Thank feck! The only reason I suggest a sliding joint for you is so there's no forward and rearward pull on the manifold , while you are braking hard or accelerating hard .

[Roadsport]

Re: DIY mani

Yup! Thank feck! The only reason I suggest a sliding joint for you is so there's no forward and rearward pull on the manifold , while you are braking hard or accelerating hard .

Backward and forward motion forces also apply to the exhaust pipe. So that in theary should not create pull on opposite directions between manifolod and exhaust. Right?

[Roadsport]

Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

But accelerating hard would try to pull the exhaust pipe further away from the manifold and engine if the mounting rubber bushes are too soft. I think the springs are a better allround solution(propably thats why their beeing used). I just do not like them. I'll try the wires and see how that works out for me. It should be safe to try. The wires are supposed to snap before any damage gets done to the mani. Its a quick fix if the wires snap or loosen up.

[Tristan]

Re: Race Escort Zetec SE (engine build)

I was thinking out loud mate , that's all . If you do fit springs , I suggest not having them tight against the pipe , I put mine about 5mm out and the heat hasn't harmed them . And They are ordinary pull springs , not high temp ones . I used the ball thing from the ball and socket you'd see in most Hatchback car boot struts , and welded them to the pipe . The Eye of the spring fitted nicely over the ball .

[Roadsport]

Question

Got my oil tank in place now and I'm gathering all the parts needed for the oil lines. A question came up.

Can I use the these Aeroquip hose fittings with regular fabric enforced, non steel braided, hose?



Will these tear the non steel braided hose? Or tre they ment to tighten against the steel braiding?

[Roadsport]

Re: Question

Got my oil tank in place now and I'm gathering all the parts needed for the oil lines. A question came up.

Can I use the these Aeroquip hose fittings with regular fabric enforced, non steel braided, hose?



Will these tear the non steel braided hose? Or tre they ment to tighten against the steel braiding?

To answer my own question. It turns out ...no.

[Tristan]

Re: Question

No it doesn't tear the non steel braided hose , or no , they're not meant to tighten against the steel braiding?

[Roadsport]

Re: Question

No it doesn't tear the non steel braided hose , or no , they're not meant to tighten against the steel braiding?

The regular rubber hose has too thick walls to fit into the aeroquip or goodridge hose fitting. Therefor you have to use the push on hose fittings with the textile reinforced rubber hoses. Just like they say.

Also tried to save a few quids by using hydraulic hose from the near by shop to do the plumbing. But it turns out hydraulic hoses can't take the heat or are way too stiff for oil lines.
Did not give up that easily and found a Gates oil hose to be both heat resistant and flexible enough for the job. I now have asked for a quote on both hoses. The bespoke dry sump oil line hose and the gates oil hose.





P.S
Learning plumbing the hard way really sucks. Trial and error method really gets expensive...
Too big hose fittings or wrong type of hose anyone?
The lesson in this again is that that's what happends when you don't know what you are doing.


p.s.s
Plumbing sucks!

[Roadsport]

Re: Question

Now the visible part of the engine bay wiring is done. Rest of it will pretty much bee hidden under the tb's and in the cabin.

[Tristan]

Re: Question

That looks really neat . yet serviceable!