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  • Pushrod King
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    • Feb 2006
    • 5028

    Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

    I think I've guessed

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    • Roger Miller
      Racer
      Decade Plus User
      • Jan 2003
      • 2897

      Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

      Originally posted by david_white
      Thats in the boot Roger We want one in the engine bay, as specified in all of HT's racecars

      Besides we don't have a firewall so apart from long pipe runs, we still couldn't run it in the boot without boxing it in.
      The attached pic, in boot, was purely for sizing. You can put it anywhere u damn like. I just think its not the best/fastest position.

      Whats these, specs that say it must be in engine bay ?

      Firewall?? rear bulk head ??? Surely u are running one !
      Cant think of a cheaper easier way of stiffening chassis.

      Wheres the fuel tank ????
      Last edited by Roger Miller; 15-12-2008, 11:40.
      Take it Easy....

      Roger Miller

      Works-Escorts =

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      • Roger Miller
        Racer
        Decade Plus User
        • Jan 2003
        • 2897

        Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

        This barrel of oil is gonna be at 90 to 100 degrees c.
        You can ill afford the extra temperature in engine bay, heating intake air.
        Cooler, using your logic of short lines, will be in engine area as well, further heating air

        Barrel contains x in front.
        Barrel contains y + z in boot therefore is smaller.
        These lines, will and should be alloy, thereby aiding oil cooling, making cooler smaller.
        Cooler will be under car, therefore air will be heating opponents.

        I wish, and hope, to make car faster.
        Last edited by Roger Miller; 15-12-2008, 11:50.
        Take it Easy....

        Roger Miller

        Works-Escorts =

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        • Roger Miller
          Racer
          Decade Plus User
          • Jan 2003
          • 2897

          Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

          I forgot......

          Barrel in boot, positioned correctly, will enable weight, off of overworked front tires, into a position, to be determined, to corner weight, car better.
          Take it Easy....

          Roger Miller

          Works-Escorts =

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          • Retromotorsport
            Part of the furniture
            Decade Plus User
            • Mar 2004
            • 14285

            Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

            Roger, the car is 50/50 weight with driver, and tyre temps bear this out.
            Engine builder wants the oil up front, it goes up front
            Using the firewall to stiffen the shell??? you could cut all of andy's rear bodywork away and the car will still drive, all the suspension is picked up by the cage, so adding a firewall will just add weight above the axle.
            As for heat..we're in England, not mexico, the car spends a lot of time with the rad taped up.
            And lastly, this x-flow powered escort pisses all over a lot of other cars that should, on paper, be quicker.

            If we did things your way, the car would be heavier = slower (longer oil line, firewall)
            we did try you massive camber, and guess what, yep slower. This was tried on the same day that Andy was up against Craig Rainers 400bhp big wheeled class leading Mk2, and Andy was a second slower than him... one second, thats all with less than half the power. 1 second between a class A car and a Class D car.. and at a track that Andy always does bad at, hes bogey track, At Brands Hatch he was just 0.7 seconds of Craigs time.
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            • Retromotorsport
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              • Mar 2004
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              Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

              as for who said put it up front .. this guy did, and i'm not arguing ...
              Gary

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              • angliaant
                Pit Crew
                Decade Plus User
                • Dec 2006
                • 1841

                Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                Originally posted by Retromotorsport
                as for who said put it up front .. this guy did, and i'm not arguing ...
                http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthre...ghlight=racing
                WOW some beautifull bits of kit there... never seen that thread before

                cmon then andy tell the people whats happening
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                • Toymex
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                  Decade Plus User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1337

                  Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                  Little x mas pressie,carbs for sale ,i wonder

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                  • david_white
                    Pole Position
                    Decade Plus User
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4831

                    Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                    Heres a pic of Andy's car to show how it has never had a firewall. The tank is under the car with a protected filler line running to the rear pillar, the battery is in the passenger footwell theres almost no shelf and the bootspace.. well at best it stops the bootlid from falling on the floor, and thats about all

                    I love the shadows on the 4 link box in this pic too


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                    • duncan
                      Pit Crew
                      Decade Plus User
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 1797

                      Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                      Originally posted by david_white

                      you can almost see his legs moving as he peddles to help the poor X flow
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                      • Roger Miller
                        Racer
                        Decade Plus User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2897

                        Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                        Originally posted by Retromotorsport
                        Roger, the car is 50/50 weight with driver, and tyre temps bear this out.
                        Engine builder wants the oil up front, it goes up front
                        Using the firewall to stiffen the shell??? you could cut all of andy's rear bodywork away and the car will still drive, all the suspension is picked up by the cage, so adding a firewall will just add weight above the axle.
                        As for heat..we're in England, not mexico, the car spends a lot of time with the rad taped up.
                        And lastly, this x-flow powered escort pisses all over a lot of other cars that should, on paper, be quicker.

                        If we did things your way, the car would be heavier = slower (longer oil line, firewall)
                        we did try you massive camber, and guess what, yep slower. This was tried on the same day that Andy was up against Craig Rainers 400bhp big wheeled class leading Mk2, and Andy was a second slower than him... one second, thats all with less than half the power. 1 second between a class A car and a Class D car.. and at a track that Andy always does bad at, hes bogey track, At Brands Hatch he was just 0.7 seconds of Craigs time.
                        Its like a different world of motor sport, over there, I'm afraid
                        Take it Easy....

                        Roger Miller

                        Works-Escorts =

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                        • Retromotorsport
                          Part of the furniture
                          Decade Plus User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14285

                          Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                          Originally posted by RMinOZ
                          Its like a different world of motor sport, over there, I'm afraid
                          Yeah... what we do today, others follow in a few years time
                          Gary

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                          • david_white
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                            Decade Plus User
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4831

                            Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                            Quickly strapped these bad boys on today. 45mm Jenveys
                            They look and fit the nuts and are a credit to their previous owner as they are like brand new still





                            They are slightly shorter than the 50's too so we have a bit more space to play with..


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                            • Pushrod King
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                              • Feb 2006
                              • 5028

                              Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                              Originally posted by Pushrod King
                              I think I've guessed
                              I was right what management you gonna be running?

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                              • angliaant
                                Pit Crew
                                Decade Plus User
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1841

                                Re: andypipe's - MK1 Escort - xflow

                                very nice...
                                Wanted: Second Hand Tremec TKO 500, 600 or T56 Gearbox... Cash Waiting
                                Any small welding, fabrication, engineering, paint or mechanical works undertaken, please PM for details.

                                It would seem my computer skills are not good enough !!

                                thanks Guys !

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