Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

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  • Roadsport
    Racer
    Decade Plus User
    • Dec 2008
    • 2106

    Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

    Is the furutre 3rd member axle like the US Ford 9" where the pinion is in separate housing which can be removed to change shims and adjust the pinion debth? I like the best of both worlds ! Can you make it the best of all the worlds: strong, light and cheap ? That would be the bestest



    p.s

    Still tempted to try the alli 3rd member. And I propably will If I don't come across enough truple as it it. that would make the whole package 51kg's and the aforementioned solid discs would do too. I bet that would put it well under 50kg's
    "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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    • Roadsport
      Racer
      Decade Plus User
      • Dec 2008
      • 2106

      Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

      Originally posted by exboyracer
      Nice work mate, fingers crossed that all your hard work pays dividends this year
      Lets hope so. The last years front springs and ARB mods made the car unbelievably drieable but I could not enjoy it due to these gearbox issues. I hope I get a chance to enjoy it all this summer with no DNF's
      "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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      • Roadsport
        Racer
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        • Dec 2008
        • 2106

        Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

        Took the gearbox back to the car for late rinstallation and brought the engine back with me for little freshing up. Its now done two seasons with hte same rings and bearings so due time for a check up. Those two seasons were pretty broken though. I did change the oil grade for the last season so Interresting to see if theres any evidence of wear in the internals.

        For such a featherweight engine it weights like F**k to lift in and out of me van.

        "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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        • Roadsport
          Racer
          Decade Plus User
          • Dec 2008
          • 2106

          Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

          Took the gearbox back to the car for late rinstallation and brought the engine back with me for little freshing up. Its now done two seasons with hte same rings and bearings so due time for a check up. Those two seasons were pretty broken though. I did change the oil grade for the last season so Interresting to see if theres any evidence of wear in the internals.

          For such a featherweight engine it weights like F**k to lift in and out of me van.

          "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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          • Roadsport
            Racer
            Decade Plus User
            • Dec 2008
            • 2106

            Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

            looks like I could do with new piston rings. 3rd cylinder has burned a bit of oil




            Not visible on the pistons though so I'm guessing it hasn't burned oil all that much. If there would have been actual oil burning on the piston it should have a destinctive clear parle ring on it. These have nice colouring except the 4th but thats only cause that piston was cahnged due to the engine failure a while back.

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            • RWD fords rule
              Racer
              Decade Plus User
              • Feb 2006
              • 3579

              Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

              Pistons and chambers are quite black, I would have expected a nice light brown colour across at least some of the pistons and chamber, sure it wasn't running a little rich or burning a small amount of oil? not saying it looks bad, just not what I would expect to see with full engine management, I would also expect the exhaust valves to be a light grey colour rather than light brown, definitely some room for improvement with mixture quality imho
              "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" - Enzo Ferrari

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              • Roadsport
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                • Dec 2008
                • 2106

                Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                I really have not paid attention to the AFR. And it has not been on the rollers lately. It may just as be that rings are worn out. They've been there for two (broken) seasons. Usually I change them annually. Too bad I cant do a blow by test anymore but I could pour some liquid in down the cylinder to see if they leak. I think I need to visit the rollers once the engine is back together.
                "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                • Roadsport
                  Racer
                  Decade Plus User
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2106

                  Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                  Took the bottom end a part today. Nothing alarming was to be seen that has not been there before.
                  The fourth cylinder has some scoring and a dimp due to the failure two years back. But the fourth is not the issue the third was the one that had burned a bit of oil. Did'nt have a feeler gauge at hand but the piston ring gap is over 0,4 mm's perhaps a 0,6. Will maesure later on.

                  The only bit with some wear was the fourth big end bearing and the fifth main. Well the main wasn't bad but more worn than the others. The big end on the other hand was propper worn. The bearing fell out as soon as I got the cap in hand and refused to sit on the con or the cap on their own. Luckily the crank is unharmed.





                  Now, I do not know the reason for this. The fact that they have done two seasons or that I changed oil grade between the two seasons.

                  I think I'll fit all new bearings and rings and have it dyno'd with the thinner oil. If theres any gain that can be measured I have a good reason to wait till fall to see if it is actually the oil that Is causing the wear. I doubt it though I never noticed any severe drop in oil pressure. The thinner had lower pressure after serious track time when idling. And even that could be due to the worn out bearing.
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                  • Tristan
                    Mechanic
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 632

                    Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                    Jeez it's a good thing you dropped out the bearings!

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                    • Roadsport
                      Racer
                      Decade Plus User
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2106

                      Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                      Tristan, you can say that again. The fact that the bearings dropped out on their own is a tell tale sign that there has been some slack/knocking in the bearing causing it to deform. Thinking back if the gearbox had not failed propably the engine would have.

                      Propably going back to the TWS 10W60 oil.
                      "Failure is always an option." - Adam Savage

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                      • Tristan
                        Mechanic
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 632

                        Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                        Tws?

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                        • Roadsport
                          Racer
                          Decade Plus User
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2106

                          Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                          Castrol TWS Motorsport 10W60 or perhaps try out a Millers equalent nano oil 10w60
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                          • RWD fords rule
                            Racer
                            Decade Plus User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 3579

                            Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                            What sort of fully hot idle oil pressure were you getting? would be worth running a little extra big end clearance if the pressure side rotor is large enough to support it and still have good idle oil pressure, the more oil leakage the less the idle oil pressure will be, as a reference 20psi hot idle pressure is ok but I would not go any lower than that just to sure as the bearings wear there is still some volume left to spare, it does look like the big end clearances are a bit too tight tbh for best reliability, but I know some dry sump pumps have pressure side rotors that are barely large enough, if it were me I would design them with a slightly deeper or larger rotor and run 40psi hot idle pressure, that way you could run whatever clearances you like or feed oil to a turbo or whatever you like and still have plenty of volume to compensate, worth the few bhp you would likely loose due to the extra volume but maximum reliability
                            "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" - Enzo Ferrari

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                            • Roadsport
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2106

                              Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                              No I'm not all that certain but on the hottest races I got momenterally under 20 psi readings at hot hot hot idle. With the thicker stuff I can't remember ever going under 20psi. I wasn't all that alarmed though I seem to remember a rule of thumb that one would need 10psi per every 1000RPM's
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                              • RWD fords rule
                                Racer
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                                • Feb 2006
                                • 3579

                                Re: Escort Sigma 1600 Race Car

                                Yes 7 to 10psi hot oil pressure per 1000rpm is generally a good rule, you only really need 10psi or less at idle but I personally don't like less than 20psi and 30psi is all the better
                                "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" - Enzo Ferrari

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