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  • GavinR
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    • Jun 2004
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    Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

    Well things haven't gone well over the last fews months - on HT's Rolling Road in May, there was a problem with the timing caused by the old wiring / ECU. We tried a new crank sensor but it did not make any difference, so I left Dvy with them to fit a new ECU and engine wiring loom. This was completed a couple of weeks ago and some mapping was done, but there was a distinct lack of power.

    Further investigations showed the engine was down on compression on all cylinders, but not losing any oil or water, so seems to be a valve / cam / timing issue.
    I got Dvy back home and took the head off - everything looks fine, but I'll take the bottom end out and take it all back to HT so it can be thoroughly checked, measured and put back together!
    GavinR

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    • alladdin
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      • May 2005
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      Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

      you must be very dissapointed having got it all bar finished - gutted for you - i am sure you will forge on, onwards and upwards and look forward to the positive outcome that has been delayed

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      • Kmp
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        • Feb 2009
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        Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

        Have you had any more luck yet Gavin? Or any ideas?

        thanks
        kris

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        • mexicotait
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          • Oct 2008
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          Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

          At least now you know it will be all fresh and ready to go.

          Do you have any events planned?

          its a bit of a busy year now events are running again!
          Hexham and District Motorclub

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          • GavinR
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            • Jun 2004
            • 1494

            Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

            I dropped everything off at HT last weekend - Ron will strip and rebuild it as required, then run it on the dyno, so it should be ready to drop in when it comes back, hopefully in August.
            Still thinking about whether to try for an event in September.
            GavinR

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            • GavinR
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              • Jun 2004
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              Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

              I did enter the event in September, the Three Shires Closed Road Stages which is based at Malvern Showground, but I'll be in Fly...

              Ron has stripped the Duratec, the bores are worn but the pistons are relatively new (so probably lost compression through the rings), there is play between the pistons and the rods, and the head is completely standard, not even had a skim.
              It will be rebuilt correctly and the problems sorted, I said not to rush though as I doubt I'll be out in it this year now.
              GavinR

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              • Kmp
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                • Feb 2009
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                Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                Hi Gavin,

                has there been any updates on this engine build? Feel gutted for you that you were ripped off on the engine, hope all is going well.

                thanks
                kris

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                • GavinR
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                  • Jun 2004
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                  Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                  Hi Kris,
                  It's in progress, hoping to get it back in the next few weeks
                  Even if I had it back, I've been too busy to do much with it, but I'm keen to get everything ready for some events in 2022
                  Thanks
                  Gavin
                  GavinR

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                  • GavinR
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                    • Jun 2004
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                    Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                    Finally



                    245 bhp and 175 lb ft of torque on the Dyno so should be good when I've got it back in Dvy
                    GavinR

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                    • Kmp
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 390

                      Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                      get in! Looks a beast, That’s a dream engine for me!

                      When’s your first event or shake down?

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                      • GavinR
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                        • Jun 2004
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                        Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                        I hope to be out at one of the events at Down Ampney in April or May, but do a test day before then to make sure everything is ready to go
                        GavinR

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                        • beeRS
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                          Great read on your Duratec installation. Shame about the engine first time around. What ECU did HT go with? Or did they just re-map the one that came with the engine?
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                          • Graham
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                            Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                            great write up as always
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                            • katana
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                              • May 2012
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                              Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                              Originally posted by beeRS
                              What ECU did HT go with? Or did they just re-map the one that came with the engine?
                              Often wondered this myself with stand alone engine testing prior to customer delivery? Especially with this one ie. fitted with 803? Bosch Green injectors ie. low impedance types which won't play nicely with a lot of aftermarket ECU's. Having to wire up separate customer supplied ECU's could cause issues, be time consuming and a tuners generated map may not transfer to a customers ECU . . . . . . . . carbs were so simple LOL!

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                              • GavinR
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                                • Jun 2004
                                • 1494

                                Re: GavinR's Mk2 Stage Car - DVY

                                Originally posted by beeRS
                                Great read on your Duratec installation. Shame about the engine first time around. What ECU did HT go with? Or did they just re-map the one that came with the engine?

                                The engine came with an old MBE 967 and it was good enough to get it running, but not much more than that!

                                When it was on the rollers at HT the first time, the ECU wasn't getting a good signal from the crank sensor and fitting a new one didn't make any difference, which pointed to either the ECU circuits degrading or the wiring loom. My cosworth was on a Vipec ECU supplied by HT (Vipec are now Link ECU) but they have been using Maxx ECU's for a few years now, so we went with a Maxx ECU Street version. Ron fitted it and made the loom on the car last year so it's all neat and tidy.

                                Now it has been dyno'ed following the rebuild, the new map has been copied to my ECU so it will be ready to go once I've got the engine back in.
                                GavinR

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