A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

[GT2200]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

oh mark you make me blush :
i wont build another car, thats out the equestion money wise.

Hey no probs......i'm quite happy to a swap with some of the toys i have sitting in the garage, i'm sure one of those would be fun to race on the track, plus as two of them are orange i'm sure you could get either a mobile phone company or a fizzy drink maker to sponsor you

that said i do have some demon modifications in mind so i will be aiming for the magic 100bhp per litre.

Any chance some of those demon mods could be transfered to one of my toys?????

[david_white]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Good luck if you do go the 2.5 route Graham, should be good. I agree with you that class D isn't an option as the engine would be costly and weight loss almost impossible to compete with the 205's. Class C is still quite open though and it would be good to go against the 2 litre fwd layout that the rest of them use (as far as I remember ).

Will you have to run smaller wheels if you go N/A or are they not too much heavier

[Graham]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Any chance some of those demon mods could be transfered to one of my toys?????

i have the brains if you have the cash...........................

[Graham]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Will you have to run smaller wheels if you go N/A or are they not too much heavier
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the current ones are rather heavy for a lower class but i'd keep them maybe with a softer compound slick, and a lower diff ratio

[angliaant]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

good luck with whatever lump you decide to go with mate, im sure you will do it justice

sorry for another dumb question but do you do all the crank grinding and rebores at home aswell?
im very interested in doing as much of the engineering as you can yourself at home

[Graham]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

sorry for another dumb question but do you do all the crank grinding and rebores at home aswell?
im very interested in doing as much of the engineering as you can yourself at home

its not a dumb question, i'd love to be able to do such things at home, but no i dont i have neither the money, space or enough need to do such things at home

[angliaant]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

its not a dumb question, i'd love to be able to do such things at home, but no i dont i have neither the money, space or enough need to do such things at home

okay cool, i was just wondering if there was a 'cheats' way of doing it at home
good on ya, ya do a lot of it at home, as i plan to, getting other people to do things means
a)hassle
b) money
not good
thanks

[dangerousdave]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Ant important things like crank grinds and rebores are best left to proper engineering places with £££££ worth of the latest machinery But by all means do everything else yourself and save masses of labour costs

[angliaant]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Ant important things like crank grinds and rebores are best left to proper engineering places with £££££ worth of the latest machinery But by all means do everything else yourself and save masses of labour costs

yep mate im guessing ya right, in most cases im guessing its prolly cheaper to get nother crank

[tom burgess]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

oh bummer Grahamsorry to hear that matei know of someone else who found more grip then had oil surgeHope it aint too bad for you and you are back out racing in no timeconsidering you have done about 98/99% of the work on this car youreself i do thnk its incredible what results you have achieved with this carHope to see it out soon

[david_white]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Stick a pinto in it Graham

[Graham]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

even a mk1 gaz pinto isnt going to be much good in class A

[Cosnada]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Graham, Graham, Graham - I am sooooooooooo gutted for you.

I think you have gone to amazing lengths with this engine especially achieving the power you have with relatively little boost (compared to the Cossie)

I only hope its good news and a cheap rebuild

Can something not be done in the fundamental class system? I know the big power stuff is group A but we all know that 4wd is the way to go. Why not have a handicap for 4wd or have deliberate class distinction for 2wd and 4wd?

This may sound too simple but from your report where you tried to keep up with Steve in his Escos - proof enough that there is an unfair advantage.

I know you take your racing extremely seriously and that is why I ask if anything can be done. You have helped make the rules and I am sure as new technologies are introduced rules have to be changed or rewritten?

You are the man that made some of the ruling on rear spoilers for instance - you did not use your 'leverage' to change rules but spent time and head scrathcing to work out a solution - an american bumper could give a greater wing etc.

I want the likes of you Graham really recognised and rewarded for your achievements. Steve from A1 is a great guy but he has a good budget and sponsorship that aids his quest for domination. You could dent this but are nable to for economic and unfair class A 2wd/4wd get on with it attitude.

Big up to you sir - whatever

[Graham]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

cheers bud i wont give up, to be honest my car doesnt run in the class with the 4WD cars, i run in B they are in A, i can beat most of the class A cars and on a good day all the class B ones and a lots of them very easily, i have a few issues now, in that if i want to hunt for overal wins car really does need 4wd which i cant do, on cost and techical grounds, but even staying in class B the speeds im doing tends to make for poor racing,

at the front of the grid it tends to get very strung out and your spend a lot of the race on your own, ive come to realise i enjoyed the racing more running in a lower class when i was in the middle of the pack, even then i used to do the odd gaint killing act and beat quite a few cossies with half the power they had, which is why im almost certain im going back to a lower class, which apart from anything means i will use about £60-70 less in fuel each meeting

with a 2.0 non turbo car you can do reliably race after race week in week out, the front running turbos cant stand that pace, and if you want reliability you have to conserve them by keeping down the boost and the amount of track time they get, apart from that although the bonkers acceration near 500bhp provides is a good laugh, such power spoils he cars, it totally domiates the handling its rather like the tail wagging the dog, and i'd like to wag the tail for myself again

[Retromotorsport]

Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

Thats such a good discription " tail wagging the Dog"

My thoughts are ..
A: budget, a dry sump is needed, maybe an Accusump would work, and is cheaper than the dry sump route. That said, your a D.I.Y expert, the pump bought new, the rest known second hand stuff, and a few hours modding the sump, doing a bracket for the pump. A plastic re-sealable drum in the passenger space to house the tank ..

B: the cars changed .. and its bloody quick, how much has it changed and how much more settling in do you need to start being on the edge again. 3 seconds off your own lap record is huge, and yet you yourself said you was still learning ... could there be another second of 2 to come off .. you had what 30 odd mins running at Snett.. What would you have done with an Hour and a few changes to the car.

I would love to see this car at the front of the pack.. and i'm sure the driver and car has it there.. simmering below the surface, I hope someone is reading this and wants to help out. A few quid and this car will be where it belongs.