A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

[Pushrod King]

Re: worlds most powerfull bmw 316?

What happened today Graham ? Drove up to BH to watch,wandered around the paddock and your car was loaded up on the trailer

[tom burgess]

Re: worlds most powerfull bmw 316?

its called bent valves nick going from 4th to 3rd instead of 5th is not a good idea.thats wot graham told me anyways

[Graham]

Re: worlds most powerfull bmw 316?

yep half way doen the straight i clipped the rev limiter in 4th and hit 3rd instead of 5th!

i havnt had it to bits yet, but its got no compression and the tell tale is showing over 9K not good on a top end which is only safe to 7.5

so the only good bit of the day for me was when a certain driver of a black escort told me he was having trouble catching me in a straight line

[david_white]

Re: worlds most powerfull bmw 316?

Car looked very quick from the pit wall Graham, as quick as anyone on the straight

Hope its fixable and your not out for too long pray:

[Retromotorsport]

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I'll agree there Graham, you was flying down the straight... hope its a cheap fix, but from the paddock rumours its gonna cost a packet just for the Gaskets.

So if anyones reading this and can help in anyway please do, Grahams too proud to ask for help, but this could put him out for a lot of the season, so any companies out there with a little cash they need to get rid of, please contact Graham . You don't have to be in the motortrade, sponsors come from all areas as this car is seen by so many people from all walks of life, not only on this Forum but others too and the national newspaper The Motoring News.

Graham builds,maintains and runs this car at the track on his own, which is no mean feat when your in a class as modified as this, but at the same time he is prepping his car he his only to ready to help his fellow competitors, be that almost all morning at Lydden tracing the starting fault on an Alfa or many of the other last minute dramas that inflict themselves on the other competitors, Graham is there... helping.

Hope your back up and running soon Graham.

[Graham]

Re: worlds most powerfull bmw 316?

cheers gary,

done a quick valve clearance check this morning, inlet clearances are ok, exhausts are all huge, so it looks like 8 bent exhaust valves, which makes sense, your more likely to bent the exhaust valves on an over rev

i dunno if the fact its the exhaust valves is a good or bad thing, the inlets are std bmw and thus reasonably easy to obtain even if horribily expensive new or even s/h, the exhaust ones are oversize race valves, made in small batches especially for my supplier who doesnt think he has any more, which could mean a very very long wait for more.

i havnt got one but i suppose one way out of it could be to put a std head back on the engine, anyone got an m3 head they are willing to donate to a good cause?

[david_white]

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Did you see the 3 M3 E30's racing at Brands Graham (red one with us and 2 white ones on Saturday)?
Maybe they would know where to get hold of a head or even the valves, if you don't know the guys their names will be in the finals for the race weekend.

Also is there no way of getting the 8 valve head back on there, or would that be major hassle? Just thinking it might get you back out racing until the valves or a 16v head show up

[Graham]

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8v head isnt an option unfortunatly, i dont have any of the 8v bits anymore and its fundamentally a totally different instalation

it would be less work to and probably cheaper to fit a YB!

i've not given up, but on a budget of zero there arent many options open!

[david_white]

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[RChambers]

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Might be worth putting a wanted ad on http://www.e30zone.net/

[Pushrod King]

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but on a budget of zero there arent many options open!

Surely not quite zero? How would you pay for entries/fuel etc?

Perhaps we could set up a fund on here where members could volunteer to pay into it in return for all the advise you give and have given to us.COME ON PEOPLE IT'S TIME TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK!!

Can't you use valves from a different engine and machine them to the correct dimensions?? As long as the stem diameter's the same you can use valves from anything
Even a YB. Must be worth looking into . Let me know what you need and I'll have a scout around to see what I can find

[Graham]

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its been a really tight period for me money wise lately, entries and fuel i can just about cover if i stay busy with overtime from the AA and private work, so when i say zero budget i'm really mean zero repair budget.

[Pushrod King]

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I know what you mean What valves do you use?

[Graham]

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they are modified oversize group A race valves, not quite one offs but nearly, so even if i can get some in time at an affordable price they wont just drop straight it.

as i said ealier i might just drop a std head back on it for now, i've found a complete one which should be good with just a precautionary valve lap and reface with an asking price of £500 which isnt that bad a price, but that would give me a total repair bill of about £900, all in with gaskets bolts skim etc

[Pushrod King]

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£500 for a standard head how much are the valves?? Can't you can use some from something else or even use standard inlet valves machined to fit ? I know a man that can do anything machining wise so it's got to be worth looking into