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  • Pushrod King
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    • Feb 2006
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    Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

    Originally posted by david_white
    Yeah, can't think why i don't fit in it. Besides I can get in Andys car still, its just that my shoulders touch the roof. I guess I'll have to shave a bit off my hips before I drive it in anger this year
    Were you comfy in mine when you drove it DW?

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    • mk2stu
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      • Dec 2008
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      Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

      Originally posted by david_white
      Most carbon bodied cars you can see the weave in the right light. Rod Birleys doors are a good example. My car hasn't had too much paint so thats not a worry, I did manage to remove one of the wishbone bushes today which is like a solid steel void bush with no rubber apart from the seals. The poly bush is a lot lighter and there are 4 of them! Another few grams saved
      how did you manage to get it out then mate?have you got a pic of the old bush and maybe ill be able to think of a way you can aproach it with out the agro
      Last edited by mk2stu; 16-05-2010, 08:35.
      do ya like dags

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      • david_white
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        Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

        Originally posted by Pushrod King
        Were you comfy in mine when you drove it DW?
        Yeah I guess so as it wasn't an issue, just didn't know what gear I was in!

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        • david_white
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          Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

          Originally posted by mk2stu
          how did you manage to get it out then mate?have you got a pic of the old bush and maybe ill be able to think of a way you can aproach it with out the agro
          This is the kiddy. It is self aligning and there is no more rubber to come out to ease removal. On this one I just opened the centre out a touch to get a hacksaw blade through and then slowly cut to the outside edge. With a mm less metal in there the whole lot tapped out with a big hammer and a 30mm socket after a few big swings.




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          • Roadsport
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            Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

            Originally posted by graham bahr
            i know that on my car the big disc and caliper set up which is very similar except home brewed saved weight over the std setup, i dont see why daves should be any different, the disc is big but its alloy bell weighs next to nothing
            Thats what I was thinking. If he would have had solid rotors he could save a lot of weight by going with the alloy bells.
            I increased the size of ny brakes drastically but managed to keep the wieght the same by goung with the bell type rotors. No point in making the brakes smaller to save weight.
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            • Clint
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              Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

              Dave all looking good but dont replace the proper sperical bushes with poly ones, thats a real bad downgrade.
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              • david_white
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                Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                Originally posted by Clint
                Dave all looking good but dont replace the proper sperical bushes with poly ones, thats a real bad downgrade.
                Not sure why as from what i can see the arms can only move in one plane, the bushes are dead parallel and there should be no stiction, but I have heard that said before on other forums so you are probably right.
                The spherical bushes on the outer arms have some lateral play though on my car so I think that what I might try for now is to just replace the outers with the polyrace bushes that I have and leave the inners as origional sphericals if they are in good shape. This should be a good compromise and if there is any miss alignment in the wishbone pickups then the inner sphericals should allow for it.

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                • mk2stu
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                  Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                  unless you can rig sum um sockets up with a threadad bar maybe you could push it out that way or if you could ask a ford specialist nicely you might be able to borrow the proper tool(if you stick them a beer im sure the head techy would lend you it)if not i reckon the only way is to carry on as u are
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                  • david_white
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                    Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                    Originally posted by mk2stu
                    unless you can rig sum um sockets up with a threadad bar maybe you could push it out that way or if you could ask a ford specialist nicely you might be able to borrow the proper tool(if you stick them a beer im sure the head techy would lend you it)if not i reckon the only way is to carry on as u are
                    Well car is back on the ground now and even ventured outside into the sunshine today. Those bushes wouldn't pull out using studding or any of the obvious methods. In situ they need to be cut out or if you can get the arms off I'd simply stick them in a hydraulic press and let a couple of hundred tonnes sort it out. I have one side sorted now and the other will be pretty quick to do once I turn the car round.

                    Next up is to fit some nice rose jointed drop links for the rear anti roll bar and get some new bushes on it.

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                    • PaulAlex
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                      Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                      Sounds like you're making good progress Dave - any rough completion date in your mind?

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                      • david_white
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                        Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                        Originally posted by PaulAlex
                        Sounds like you're making good progress Dave - any rough completion date in your mind?
                        Just as soon as mate, we should start to make bigger progress soon

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                        • david_white
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                          Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                          Have been making gradual progress lately. Got a few parts fitted in the engine bay. The plumbing for the oil cooler is all done and the alternator is back on. Boost hoses are on the way.



                          I've modified the cam cover which not only saves a bit of weight but also allows me to run my current plug leads and coil pack. I then repainted it in high temp silver so it would look a bit neater.



                          I had also been looking for an escos airbox to buy as I have been concerned that the std sierra one doesn't even have big enough outlet to match a T34 so might be a bit restrictive. After several passed on ebay at silly prices I'd given up and then today whilst tidying the garage I spotted something i didn't recognise and there it was, a mint escos airbox, that I didn't even know about. I can only assume that it came with the sierra and got launched onto the rafters in the garage but I don't remember.
                          So happy days, got it cleaned up, fitted it in the car where all of the holes lined up and it even had a good K+N inside it Just need to make a couple of holes now for the extra ducting.




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                          • david_white
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                            Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                            Also this week i got the car out in the sun and managed to clean it up a bit. As it was nice and warm I took the opportunity to remove the decals that needed to come off that had proved a bit stubborn earlier in the year.
                            I have tried to get the bodywork to be white, black and orange only, and have removed as many of the other colours as possible andI think the car looks better for it. I have removed the 38's aswell ready for my new numbers to go on (83,as Andy wanted his 38 back )





                            I got all of the inner wheel arches repainted white, and even managed to find another few kilos I could remove from the car.

                            On the bonnet I have now fitted a vent above the turbo and down pipe so hopefully this will allow some heat out. I may still add something else on that side of the bonnet as I want to keep the temps in the bay as low as possible.



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                            • Graham
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                              Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                              good stuff. but dont buy any mikalors though i've got some you can have
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                              • david_white
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                                Re: DW's (new?) Sierra 3dr YB race car

                                Originally posted by graham bahr
                                good stuff. but dont buy any mikalors though i've got some you can have
                                Yeah cheers Graham, wanted to ask if you still had them.

                                Just need to find an old dead T34 turbo that someone can lend me to hang the exhaust on and get the plumbing in place.

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