A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

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  • dangerousdave
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    • Oct 2002
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    Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

    Nice progress graham

    Also your aluminium trick also works with copper pennies (make sure they are the older copper and not the newer plated steel ones which came in in '98 or something!?)
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    • Graham
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      steering colume out

      spent most of the evening using these removing the last of the loose/really yukky paint etc from inside of the car


      then went onto the outside, where i've taken off about 3rd of the paint which is pretty thick as its been resprayed twice ontop of the factory paint


      forunatly i havnt found any rot, ther are just a few spots that could do with some worm poison


      finally just for dave roberts a pic of my hammer draw
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      • Dave
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        One day I will get round to gathering all my hammers for a pic.
        How come you have stripped the paint on the outside, it isn't for weight saving is it?
        I suppose 2 extra layers of paint on top of the factory paint must add something to the weight.

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        • Graham
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          Originally posted by Dave_Roberts
          How come you have stripped the paint on the outside, it isn't for weight saving is it?
          I suppose 2 extra layers of paint on top of the factory paint must add something to the weight.
          err yes! was going to get repainted again adding yet more weight so i thought i'd loose the paint already on it, think how much a gallon of paint weighs, with several repaints primers etc thats quite a lot of weight in paint on the car, and some of it was looking pretty ropey in terms of finish, runs, orange peel etc so it would of taken more work in sanding and DA discs to give a nice surface to apply paint to so i fugured it would be better to remove it all
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          • Dave
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            I did think about how much a tin of paint weighs, but reckoned most of it would evaporate anyway.
            It all helps though I suppose.

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            • Graham
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              all of the paint on my car is 2K which has very little in the way of solvent in it
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              • david_white
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                Blimey you are going to town this year Mr Bahr, will be worth it in the end though and I reckon you'll have a car which requires a lot less work for a couple of seasons

                Looking forward to seeing that wing with some endplates etc, thats the way I'm going with mine I expect. How much was it? and how wide is it

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                • Graham
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                  its 52" wide and was spoiler was £50, in reality if as it stands it did generate any downforce or drag it would of got ripped off the car, the bolts attaching the wings to the support legs are m4 tapped into only 4mm thickness of aluminium

                  so the only bits i'll use are the areofoils sections themselves which are extruded aluminiium, it will have big end plates similar to the batmobile spoiler as a means of mounting, which will put the wing as far back as i can get it, conbined with lip spoiler on the bootlid i will have a triple element rear wing, although whether it does anything usefull will be another matter
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                  • david_white
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                    £50 is cheap if the aerofoil sections are suitable, I'll have to get over to my car cos I can't remember how wide I can go, but quite a bit more than 52" I think

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                    • Dan
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                      wasnt there something about the paint weight with the ford WRC team a few years back, they decided it could be lighter and stripped a shell back, repainted it and took 5kgs off or something like that.

                      and it maybe an urban myth, but ive been told the matt black bonnets on cars were not just for reducing glare but you can cover the same area in less matt paint so its lighter... could just be a load of balls though

                      nice progress again

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                      • Graham
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                        not sure i'd go to the trouble for 5kg, but unlike the focus the paint in my car is now a couple of mm thick, when wick stripped the paint from his escort which had had quite a few resprays he saved 35Kgs
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                        • dangerousdave
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                          And the grey bdt powered puma was grey because its the best covering colour or something!?!
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                          • Graham
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                            that does make sense, the denser the colour the less of it your need to actually end up with the colour
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                            • andypipe
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                              Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

                              Originally posted by graham bahr
                              that does make sense, the denser the driver the less of it your need to actually end up with the colour


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                              • Graham
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                                i thought the denser the driver the more paint you need applying more often
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