A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

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  • Graham
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    Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

    yes i'll be there i'll be signing you orrible lot on
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    • Dan
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      keep at it Graham, good luck for the weekend

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      • Pushrod King
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        Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

        Originally posted by steely dan
        keep at it Graham, good luck for the weekend
        Don't think Graham's racing,just doing paperwork/checking licences etc

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        • Graham
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          Originally posted by Pushrod King
          Don't think Graham's racing,just doing paperwork/checking licences etc
          , i'd be in real trouble if i was there with the car, it does run if i could reach the switch gear to start it ,
          i suppose i could get someone else to push the start button , but i think not being able to reach the steering wheel might cause me a few problems
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          • Dan
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            Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

            aah sorry my mistake.

            what you need is a finglonger, would solve all the problems

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            • Graham
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              i've been considering changes to my rear spoiler so a quick meassure up of the existing one is needed to see how much bigger i can go within the rules




              the rules say the spoiler cannot exeede half the rear screen height, so first i measure the height of the screen





              then the height of the spoiler, i was hoping to use a higher more effective spoiler, as the current one doesnt look like its as high as the rules allow, but unfortunatly it is

              and guess who wrote the rule regarding max spoiler height? yes you guessed it me





              a bit more meassuring showed i can move the spoiler back 4 inches though which will make it more efficient and give it more leverage on the car
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              • david_white
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                Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

                Originally posted by graham bahr
                a bit more meassuring showed i can move the spoiler back 4 inches though which will make it more efficient and give it more leverage on the car
                Just fit a bigger bumper like peugeot did on their wrc 206's and you can move it back even further

                I'd sell tha batmobile spoiler and make a 'proper' one though

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                • david_white
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                  Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

                  You need one of these, now where have i seen one?


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                  • Graham
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                    I'd sell tha batmobile spoiler and make a 'proper' one though
                    that was the plan, but when i realised i couldnt make it taller it kind of scuppa'd the idea, i might keep it, move it back add a gurney strip, a lower element and some outer winglets instead, well see, i'll have to have a look around and see how cheaply i can make one, i do like the idea of the big endplates on the current one as they should add to the sideways stability
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                    • david_white
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                      So your gonna keep the batmobile one but change the cross section of the wing, change the supports and make it wider

                      I'd say make a new one trigger

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                      • Dave
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                        Re: a very powerfull and troublesome bmw 316

                        Can't you just write a new rule?

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                        • Dave
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                          Just caught up on the last couple of pages. To be honest i haven't been paying enough attention.
                          Fair play to you Graham, to keep on modding a home built car with the results you get is very impressive.
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                          • Graham
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                            Originally posted by Dave_Roberts
                            Can't you just write a new rule?

                            not really, i write the rules for the good of the championship, and try not to change them without good reason, actually although i write them i cant really change them to just to suit my car, and i think some of the other committee members might have something to say about it, shame really, never mind it makes it more of a challenge,

                            now wheres that broom handle..............
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                            • Graham
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                              no progress on the car as such, but have done a little i've cleared the concrete pad my builder put down in feb and then buggered off for 6 months, so he can start work on my garage extension saturday




                              the extension will be 13x20 foot and turn my 2 car garage into a 3 car and give me more working space, it also means once the alfa finally is finished ( please can i have a gearbox to put in it greg), my RS, bike and Both my Beemers will be able to live indoors and i'll still have some space to work in, at the moment only the race car is inside, its taking its toll on the bike and 635 but the RS is really suffering being left outside.
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                              • Graham
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                                the car car has had some thought, i've found a company which will be able to do me a dry sump kit, they are coming back to me with a price, i dont really need a dry sump, but it will allow me to move the engine back without having to mess around with the steering or crossmember, it wont be cheap but probably the best way forward.

                                the same company have also told me about there "demon" diff mods which would idealy suit my car, as the conventional way of uprating the diff is to add more preload which would turn it into an oversteering monster,

                                finally i've been talking gearboxes with various people, mines fine, but not ideal, with a stupidly low 1st and not much better 2nd, but a lovely 3,4,5th which means thats all i ever use 3,4,5, so i know the car would be faster with a better set of ratios,

                                apparently if you can find them there is a motorsport m3 set of ratios for my box which would be ideal, although hidiously expensive, and when i say expensive i mean it a quaife squential sixspeed and custom bellhousing would be cheaper

                                quaife came up with some good prices making a switch to a quaife 5 speed dog box well worth considering although probably still well out of budget,

                                finally another contact has a box should be the dogs danglies in a race car which will be up for grabs later in the year, a prodrive 6 speed dog box

                                i've an idea on what it will cost and i cant see the budget stretching to it, it will also worry the hell out of me how much something like that will cost to repair if it ever breaks
                                Last edited by Graham; 17-08-2007, 16:51.
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