A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

[Graham]

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those Championship positions, 3 and 1 must feel good..

thanks gary it sure does, TBH i havnt been in such position since the days of my 2002

[martinpallot]

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If you are after a dog box, this place has a 5 and 6 speed S/C kit available for the getrag 265 ( I assume thats what you are using) http://www.samsonasmotorsport.com/index.php?1584229044
From what I have heard iwhen others enquired its much cheaper than they envisaged. Otherwise SADEV do a GrpA 6 speed kit, but its close to 11k Euros!

[stephen bahr]

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i know wikipedia can be editied, and gear boxes can be changed, but i couldn't see 265 as on the list of being fitted to a 316, all i could see was a getrag 260.

and congratulations on 1st in class and 3rd overall keep it up

[Graham]

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its an e30 stephen i can use any e30 gearbox, which luckily includes the 265

[Tazman]

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Hi Graham,

Were you out at Brands this weekend just gone? Am sure it was your car I saw!

[Graham]

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i was indeed, updates to follow

[Tazman]

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[Graham]

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ok, gearbox is back from its rebuild, these are what was replaced, amazingly despite years of abuse and 500bhp being shoved through it nothing else was worn


as i posted in an earlier thread i think the engine had a oil leak, not severe but not good either, after replacing the middle bolt in the timing case/head joint it leaked less, but still leaked, i never though could find it, so i used an airline to pressurise the engine slightly via the breather pipe, and sprayed it with soapy water, the result was bubbles from the head/cam carrier joint, removing the cam carrier to fit it would of been a major undertaking



having found the leak,i scratched my head how to fix it, until i had another brain wave, if i could presssurise the engine via teh breather i could do the opposite!

i loosened the timing cover/cam carrier bolts slightly, applied some clear silicon to the outside of joint and vacuumed the engine, to hopefully slightly suck the sealant in, letting it cure for a bit i tightened the bolts again, and come the next race im glad to report no oil leak

[Graham]

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i didnt take any pics but patched up bumper and wing damage from the last meeting, and disconnected the rear anti rollbar again (but left it still fitted just in case)
the roll bar didn't do much to improve traction before i rebuilt the lsd, but i was pretty sure it was helping make the car more oversteery afterwards.

[Graham]

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the weather forecast for brands was pretty wet, something i really wasnt looking forward to, i've had practically no proper race experience in this car in the wet, when it has rained it just steamed up and i couldnt see a dammed thing.

on a damp track i was pleased to find the car behaved itself, lap times for everyone were a second or two off normal pace, although there was light drizle as the session went on it didnt seem to effect grip, until someone did a couple of laps leaving an oil trail, so i qualified with a seeminly respectable 56.4 lap making 14th overall, although that did leave me 3rd in class by a fair way

race 1, was again a damp track, but nowhere near wet so slicks were again the tyre of choice, it was hard getting heat into them and a lot of drivers had so very big moments, including pushrodking who whilst trying to avoid another spinning car had the mother of all tankslappers and grass tracking excursion, i made up a couple of places very early on as the traffic bunched up when rods WRC escort cut out and a couple of other cars went off, as the race went on it rained more but stayed quite light, i was glad i'd switched back to a glass windscreen and used plenty of rainx, with several going off and the cars in front of me seeming to have a good deal more speed, i choose to just keep it on the black stuff and bring it home, although i did make sure i pressed on enough to keep the bmw minis which are in my class behind me, the end result being another 2nd place finsih and 11th overall.

race two was proper wet, prior to the race the wets went on, adjusted the front roll bar from full stiff to full soft, and backed off the dampers all round, we had a two lap green flag lap and i really gave the rear tyres some big stick to try and get heat into them but it didn't really seem to work that well, and it was then go! no heroics off the line and into the first corner it was steady as she goes, into the hairpin for the first time was scary so much spray around viability wasn't much better than you get in a car-wash!, pushrodking although passing me somewhere was having major oversteer problems, his escort just snapped sideways every time he got near the throttle, it wasn't long before i passed him but that was more whatever was wrong with his car than any skill on my behalf, as the laps clicked down i felt quite comfortable in the conditions and realised i was catching my main class rival, bill richards, pushing a bit harder i closed more, the car was quite mainagable at teh pace i was doing, teh gearbox shifting very slickly, the engine so torquey that i was practically doing the whole circuit in 3rd gear, a few times the backend stepped out going coming out of clearways onto the straight but was easy caught, but everytime i got fairly close to bill there were either yellow flags or another car lapping very slowly, so the gap opened and i had to close it again, knowing i was running out of laps i pushed harder, i was feeling confident in the car and maybe should of been thinking about just bringing it home, but i wasnt i was pushing perhaps a a bit too hard, yep, you got it it went pair shaped, on bills tail out of clearways i got harder and sooner into the throttle and was making the move on him when rearend grip and talent ran out at the same time! for the second meeting in a row i found myself in a high speed spin down brabham straight, going across the grass and thinking shit here comes the pit wall this is going to hurt! fortunately it was a glancing blow to the pit wall, enough that i knew the front of the car wouldn't look pretty a quick look at the gauges still showed i had oil pressure, it was likely the rad was toast but as as i came out the spin i could see the last lap board and figured i was still on for a finish, and so i did, 3rd in class and still 11th overall, had i made the pass stick it would of been my 6th 2nd place finish

championship wise im still 3rd overall and 1st in class, although bills much closer now and with him already having dropped a score my advantage is much reduced, i really must finish ahead of him at the next round which is snetterton or hes highly likely to overtake me in the championship

[Graham]

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at least this time the wing and end of the bumper that were bashed last time are still intact!



in hind sight, although not happy about having to repair the car again, i am happy that i was trying and nearly got the position that would of done wonders for my championship, as opposed to just trying to bring the car home.

thinking about it my rear wets are not only rather old now, but in all probability a couple of compounds too hard as they wer speced for turbo power a newer/softer set and i probably wouldnt of had another dice with the pitwall

[Toymex]

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Well done on the results Graham ,i am sure you will get it straight again in no time ,will Snetterton suit your car over Bills being a bit longer? what was wrong with Nicks car ,he normally likes the damp conditions

[Graham]

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yeah snett should suit my car as long as i dont run out of revs, i raced at snett on the current gearing with the 8v but with another 35bhp i might see the limiter down the long straight, so i'll have to remember to take the laptop just in case!

i've got the legs on bill on the straights at brands and these days and can stay in touch in the bendy bits so hopefully snett go my way

nick said afterwards he found a dislocated rear spring

[Group4_Mark2]

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Bad luck hitting the wall. Is there any thing major bent or is it all cosmetic. Hope you get it back on the track soon.

[Graham]

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i havnt looked but i think its only cosmetic, i spun as they put the last lap board out, so i did two laps aftewards (one at race pace and a slowing down in lap) it drove ok, steering felt a touch odd but it always does when you have a bumper wedged against a tyre!