A race bmw 316, m10, s14, m20, turbo, na, its been the lot!

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  • stephen bahr
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    • Jul 2009
    • 63

    Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

    i wouldn't keep putting "car things" on the table, karen wouldn't approve
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    • Graham
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      Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

      one thing i haddnt checked was whether the rods would still clear the sump, so i put the sump on without a gasket, nothing appeared to touch so i guess with a gasket it would all deffo clear



      LOOK a complete engine,



      it gets better still, its now on its mounts and gearbox



      so a good amount of progress, now all i got to do it get it running, roling road is bok for just over a weeks time, only drawback being im working every day between now and then, i can feel an order for some midnight oil being needed, do tescos sell it i wonder
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      • Tristan
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        • Dec 2009
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        Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

        whats printed on the sump?

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        • bmw02rally
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          • Jan 2010
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          Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

          Originally posted by Tristan
          whats printed on the sump?
          L H Owen.....Lester Owen. If you know race BMW's you know Lester's name! Wish I could afford to buy anything off him!
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          • Graham
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            Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

            Originally posted by bmw02rally
            L H Owen.....Lester Owen. If you know race BMW's you know Lester's name! Wish I could afford to buy anything off him!
            yep thats lesters name on the sump lesters somthing of a god when it comes to bmw m10 engines, i buy some stuff of lester, could never afford one of his engines they are wilcox BDA money,

            that said he GAVE me that sump FOC
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            • exboyracer
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              • Nov 2003
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              Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

              Looking good G, good luck with sourcing the midnight oil. See if you can find a 30 hour clock while you're at it!

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              • stephen bahr
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                • Jul 2009
                • 63

                Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                Originally posted by Graham
                yep thats lesters name on the sump lesters somthing of a god when it comes to bmw m10 engines
                Don't undercut yourself there, you got the same results power wise from the M10 as lester said was achieveable
                engine looks good, the bay looks a bit empty though, any thoughts on what the engine's going to like? the bay will be too empty without any trombones.
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                • Graham
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                  Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                  better ???






                  actually my thoughts on the engine bay are how filthy and untidy it is, but clean and tidy will have to wait for the new shell
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                  • david_white
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                    • Nov 2004
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                    Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                    Looks really good. Engine looks at more of an angle or is it just the TBs?
                    Are you still using all 8 injectors, I guess you won't know where to position them until the trumpet lengths are set..

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                    • Graham
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                      Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                      Looks really good. Engine looks at more of an angle or is it just the TBs?
                      engines at the same angle, but port face on the engine is at a different angle so yes the bodies are tipped up more, plus i also milled the manifold at an angle

                      Are you still using all 8 injectors, I guess you won't know where to position them until the trumpet lengths are set..
                      yes to both
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                      • bmw02rally
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                        Originally posted by Graham
                        yep thats lesters name on the sump lesters somthing of a god when it comes to bmw m10 engines, i buy some stuff of lester, could never afford one of his engines they are wilcox BDA money,

                        that said he GAVE me that sump FOC
                        Last time I went to see Lester he was building an engine for Carlos Sainz brother....he also had 3 M12 engines lined up. Felt a bit of a cheap skate just asking him to sort my head ready for domed pistons that he had lying around. Still gave me the time of day though, he is an old skool legend. Swaps a lot of work with John Millington I here?

                        Lester told me that you should get 238bhp tops out of an NA 8v M10 so you did very well with your's mate!!

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                        • stephen bahr
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                          • Jul 2009
                          • 63

                          Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                          what's the maximum bonnet bulge allowed?
                          to me the TB's look to be at about 50 degrees, and say the trumpets are only 6"/15cm long, from the top of the TB's the end of the trumpets would rise a minimum of 11.49cm, that's without any end plate or filter etc. say it wants 12"/30cm trumpets the end of the trumpets then rise up 22.98cm from the TB's.
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                          • Tristan
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                            whats the main advantage(s) of 2 sets of injectors?

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                            • stephen bahr
                              Bodger
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 63

                              Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                              Originally posted by Tristan
                              whats the main advantage(s) of 2 sets of injectors?
                              it seems to do alot for the torque/power, at mid range i believe it was.
                              Last edited by stephen bahr; 08-03-2011, 00:44.
                              Cars, because you can't get enough kicks out of walking fast.

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                              • Tristan
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                                • Dec 2009
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                                Re: A race bmw 316, 240bhp Atmo M10 now going s14 power!

                                cheers Junior!

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